I never really paid any attention to feminists. How do you know they think these things? Have you been approached by a fem? Did they try to indoctrinate you?
Seriously, I must now look for a feminist site in which they declare their evil intentions.

Actually, back when I was a social worker, many years ago, I was asked to attend a NOW meeting, and I thought why the heck not. I was appalled at the anger and vitriol expressed by the women there. I'm all for equal rights, equal pay, etc., but these women were speaking of men just as a lot of black people speak of white people - ie: they are the debil!
One in particular was really horrid because she claimed that abortion would be better for adoptees than adoption - I questioned her on that, and she had been adopted and blamed that for all her problems on earth, therefore, she would have been better off never being born. One wonders why she didn't just commit suicide!

I would be much more impressed with feminists if they pushed adoption and contraception one tenth as much as they push abortion.

I overslept yet again, so I can't go on right now, sorry!

Don't feminists do the same thing they scream about: they reduce a person to a symbol, cast aspersions on them, and relegate all evildoing and bad behaviour on them, while maintaining the opposision's full intent is to oppress and subordinate.... all based on gender?

I saw a neat bumper sticker, it said "Feminists are just so CUTE!" :)

LeeAnn, you are so smart!

OHMYGOSH! Abortion would be better for adoptees than adoption??? That woman is evil. No, she's EEE-VILLE. I'm HAPPY my unmarried birth mother saw fit to give me up so I could have a better life - whether I had one or not, she wanted better for me.

This discussion really shows why us women who are pro woman need a new label. The basic definitions of feminism have been so screwed over the word doesn't really mean anything, which is a shame.

Yes, there are lots of women out there who hate women in all kinds of ways. From those who, like I think you said you were, Beth, who have been hurt by other women and prefer the company of men, and yet they believe women are truly equal (but different than) to men. Several of my coworkers prefer men so much they're all thrilled they had sons and not daughters.

Then there are the radical feminist this post is about.

Me, I love women, always have. I had the best set of girl friends from elementary school thru high school and college. Boys were for dating (and sex) girls were for everything else - at least until I figured out girls could be for dating, too! But do I think it's evil and wrong for women to love and respect the men in their lives - nope.

I don't know my point, but it's a long and complicated issue that's for sure.

I would never say I hate women, I certainly did not mean to imply that, but the great majority of women I have known are catty, sneaky backstabbers. I have very few female friends, and they are not close, close friends. I have my horse friends - we have a great time together riding our horses, but we don't do anything else with each other. I have some web friends, who I can email to or comment to.

I do agree that too many feminists have given women's rights a bad name. I totally believe that women and men are equal - but we are not the same.

Hear, Hear!

I agree with everything you had to say here.

DC

I always equate feminists with PETA. They've lost sight of their goals and those they're supposedly helping are left dangling in the wind.

Great post, Beth!