June 17, 2008
The Incredible Hulk of Green Footprints
This from the Tennessee Center for Policy Research:
Energy Guzzled by Al Gore’s Home in Past Year Could Power 232 U.S. Homes for a Month
Gore’s personal electricity consumption up 10%, despite “energy-efficient” home renovations
NASHVILLE - In the year since Al Gore took steps to make his home more energy-efficient, the former Vice President’s home energy use surged more than 10%, according to the Tennessee Center for Policy Research.
*snip*
In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month.
*snip*
After the Tennessee Center for Policy Research exposed Gore’s massive home energy use, the former Vice President scurried to make his home more energy-efficient. Despite adding solar panels, installing a geothermal system, replacing existing light bulbs with more efficient models, and overhauling the home’s windows and ductwork, Gore now consumes more electricity than before the “green” overhaul.
Since taking steps to make his home more environmentally-friendly last June, Gore devours an average of 17,768 kWh per month –1,638 kWh more energy per month than before the renovations – at a cost of $16,533. By comparison, the average American household consumes 11,040 kWh in an entire year, according to the Energy Information Administration.
*snip*
The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, a Nashville-based free market think tank and watchdog organization, obtained information about Gore’s home energy use through a public records request to the Nashville Electric Service.
Only a lefty can get away with this breathtaking hypocrisy. -Instapilot
H/T: The Blogfaddah
P.S. In Japan today (by way of Australia, the Philippines, Singapore and Hong Kong). First impressions--heated toilet seats are good. That said, there is something to be said about overdoing the morning constitutional experience.
There are four WARNINGS and two CAUTIONS listed inside the lid of my room's john. There are seven controls, including "Spray," "Stop," "Shower," "Bidet," Seat Temp-LOW," Seat Temp-HIGH," and "Deodorizer." There is also a flush handle. Found it after a momentary panic--"Damn, mebbe 'Shower' is a Japanese euphemism for 'flush'...ah, *whew* there it is."
The modern commode: like transistor radios, VCRs, DVD players and color TVs, the West invents it, the East perfects it.
So help me, I will never make fun of a Japanese tourist--I took pictures of my hotel crapper. -Instapilot
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
ummmm.... 'Ichi Ban' means 'number one'. Dunno how to say 'number two', Dusty- you figger it out.
;)
by Neffi on June 17, 2008 8:02 PM
"Itchy bum"?
by
Instapilot, Attila, Whatever on June 17, 2008 8:40 PM
So, where's the photo of the techno-loo? Don't be a tease. Did it have LED status lights? Water gauges? Bacteria alarm klaxon?
by
bad cat robot on June 17, 2008 10:39 PM
IMO, it’s not a hightech-loo unless it has a Klingon remover and a “dangerously full bowl” warning light.
by
Ledger on June 18, 2008 5:44 AM
Dusty-
Be glad you didn't get the same bidet version Taco got the last time he had a stay-over in Tokyo....
I'd quote some of it here, but it would ruin all the fun. You have GOT to read this post.
by AFSister on June 18, 2008 8:06 AM
OH!
I almost forgot... Afghani bidets, also compliments of Taco.
What is it with pilots and the urge to write about foreign toilets? LMAO!!
by AFSister on June 18, 2008 8:21 AM
Good thing Taco didn't press the automatic tampon remover, isn't it?
by
BillT on June 18, 2008 12:49 PM
OOHHHH!
They have one of those????
Wonder what else it can do...
by AFSister on June 18, 2008 9:09 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
May 5, 2008
Castle Argghhh! American Gothic
[Kat]
So, there I was...some where in the hinterlands where people were bitterly clinging to their bibles and guns. Out past Ft. Leavenworth and the Leavenworth penitentiary where the signs helpfully advise "Do Not Pick Up Hitch Hikers!" It is unknown whether they meant potential escapees from the penitentiary or the base. It could even be referring to the locals.
Down a gravel road where city dwellers rarely go, past the outlying demesnes of lesser nobles and up on the hill to Castle Argghhh! LLC where the gun control folks and revenuers fear to tread. Signs in German point the way while one in English just past the Castle proclaims: 50 meters to the border. For Ry and me, the signs should have read:
Arbeit macht frei!
Flash Traffic (extended entry) Follows �
Or, better yet, Abandon hope, all ye who enter here!
I found SWWBO and Ry's brilliant better half out in the barn putting together chicken roosts with 2X4s using the scariest, bitter, bible and gun clinging weapons known to Chicago liberals: power tools. We're talking industrial size, nail a democrat to the barn wall nail gun and turn them into chum table saw. I half expected Hillary to show up and start slammin' Ritas, demanding to know how to use that long metal club with the pretty, LSD inspired neon yellow bubbles in it.
After some perfunctory introductions and explanation of what all the two legged braces were for, the Armorer and Ry showed up. Wherein the Armorer proceeded to immediately give me a rash of ... well, a rash anyway, regarding the "Army Gone Stupid" post and succeeding commentary. I was late, as usual (and for good reason...I had to drive my mom a few places before I could run off to slave...er...visit). He said he thought I was trying to avoid him. Of course, everyone knows that denizens and denizennes have long since lost most of their sense of self-preservation. Particularly when there's a possibility to cling to guns and drink Ritas (not together; there are some safety rules at the Castle.)
Anyhoo...what part of the "women in combat MOS; then we should have MOS specific tests everyone has to pass" did not I not get out of that post's commentary? I was half tempted to reply, "Yo no se. No hablo Engles." But, one look around showed there was a lot of woods in which to dispose of bodies and, while I have lost most senses of self preservation, I hadn't lost them all. So, I just said, "I agree! I agree!"
I then sent the young padawan I had brought with me off with the guys to do "guy things". Which apparently consisted of a lot of running back and forth to the water spout shouting to the guy on the other end "is there any water yet?" about ten times. I thought they were supposed to be digging fence post holes; I'm still confused about the need for water since we had about 90 inches of rain last Thursday and the good Missouri clay seemed smushy enough to dig with a spoon, but I'm not a geography major like some folks so what do I know?
After such entertainment, it was back to building chicken roosts. Ry's brilliant better half put her higher math skills to use measuring 2x4s for braces. I took over the nail gun since it was the closest I was going to get to clinging to anything with a trigger last weekend. I told SWWBO that the extra nails in the braces were to make them more sturdy and able to withstand typical Oz tornadoes. It also made a satisfying "BANG" in the old tin barn. Except Willy the horse didn't dig it too much.
While I finished up the roosts, SWWBO and RBBH used quantum mathematics to figure out how to mix poultry pesticide. It was like trying to figure out how to make one 32 oz Rita out of ingredient directions for 12 1/2 gallon Castle Rita machine. While Ry continued to try to earn his way out of the outhouse with manual labor, the Armorer and the padawan did more guy things. The padawan received rudimentary instructions on how to use military gadgetry to spot and destroy the enemy up to five miles out with an artillery barrage, Then they took a drive on the demesne's 4x4. Which I am convinced was a good excuse for the Armorer to drive over five miles an hour over "hostile terrain". The padawan thanks the Armorer for the "roller coaster ride". Ahem.
Roosts completed and pesticide mixed to non-lethal amounts, it was time for the real fun to begin. I only wish that I had had my video camera out so that the rest of the denizens could enjoy the Lord and Lady of the manner wrangling chickens out of the dairy tank/tack room/temporary chicken coop. Don't worry, I had enough enjoyment for all of you. Still, all the fun was not reserved for the Castle nobles. They were generous enough to share the experience with us serfs. We received a quick lesson in how to hold chickens without being pecked or clawed as we transported said wrangled chickens to the larger coop for checking and spraying.
The guys went back to managing Ry's work and measuring the proper length between post holes using another must have guy tool: a wheeled clicker. Critter inspection completed, it was time for the next "dirtiest jobs" episode. It was my turn to wrangle chickens to move to the smaller pen. It was like watching Obama wrangle a position on Rev. Wright. Of course, I would have given my eye teeth to see Hillary showing her bitter mid-westerness catching a few of these fine feathered fiends.
For reasons you will have to imagine, the chicken coop has been re-christened "son of b*tch" with a few other knick names in case that one fails to stick. Yes, SWWBO and I expressed deep and abiding bitterness with the coop before the job was done. The worst was yet to come.
In medieval days, the lowest pay grade denizen was assigned to clean the garde robe or jakes. In modern times, no denizen has yet to experience the wrath of the Big Boot until they have been assigned the duty of cleaning politician excrement out of the chicken pen. It was almost like working in DC and slightly better than the barracks at Ft. Bragg. Ye of weak stomach's do not enter here. Three 144 cu ft wheelbarrows full, some chicken deodorizer and fresh pine chips later, the chicken coop was about par with on base enlisted housing and ready for new residents. I now believe that the Tyson employees should receive higher pay.
There was still joy to be had in Mudville. Ry and the padawan had the last fun of wrangling "Satchmo" the rooster. I do have video of that and Ry now owes me undying devotion to keep it off of YouTube and the Castle domain. One rooster and a bag of frozen pees for Ry's wrenched knee later, it was time grill up some rib-eyes and mike some potatoes. We dined by the light of the giant boob-tube while watching Master Blasters blow up Dorothy's house and destroy the Wicked Witch of the West. Hillary was unavailable for comment.
Fear not, dear denizens, it is not all work and no play at the Castle. The Lord and Lady of the demesne graciously shared their hot tub with the serfs while naming the various constellations and trying to catch falling stars.
It was better than being boiled in oil and kept previously unknown muscles from suffering Obama-esque like spasms.
All in all, it was a fun day at Castle Argghh!

Gollum and RBBH
[Some names and photos were changed to protect the innocent. This story is factual except where the Big Boot disagrees. Any part or whole of this story that resembles actual events is purely accidental. Due to OSHA regulations, no bayonets were allowed on the set. No animals, politicians, left leaning moonbats nor castle denizens were harmed during this production.]
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Heh,
Having been "apprenticed" to the nexr-door sairy at the age of 10, and having to deal with some 500 chickens each day, I take distinct pleasure in eating them. I sincerely believe chickens are seconded only to turkeys as the most vile critters on this earth. They do, however, taste pretty good, especially with mashed potatoes, cole slaw and cold beer :)
Sounds like a good time was had by all!
Respects,
by AW1 Tim on May 5, 2008 6:34 AM
Well, I distinctly remember John saying something about "work". LOL
by fdcol63 on May 5, 2008 6:44 AM
Are the chickens part of the early warning security system for the Castle? Or are they part of the early Memorial Day festivities?
If they're part of security, I would suggest using geese. They make a lot more noise and are heartier...also not bad in an orange glaze over the grill.
With the cost of corn, those eggs must be a real premium.
Be carefull of those chicken hawks and mostly the neighbors cats.
by Fishmugger on May 5, 2008 7:48 AM
FM - the guineas (compared to whom chickens look like rocket scientists) are the CEW (Close-in Early Warning) at the Castle.
Tim - admittedly, the chickens can be... well, their effluvia can be... odiferous at times.
by
John of Argghhh! on May 5, 2008 9:25 AM
Italian Guards!!! Now you're talking. But only out of uniform in ya know...silk suit, purple shirt, white tie.
I could say that, so be careful here...ya know.
Copo il tuti capi (boss of all bosses)
by Fishmugger on May 5, 2008 9:36 AM
Haha, AW1...I was a vegetarian for about 25 years. But I maintained throughout that if any creature deserved to die, it is the chicken. Vile, indeed, and obnoxious, too.
by April on May 5, 2008 11:26 AM
All the major post holes were dug and filled with unmixed concrete by the time you showed, Kat. ;) The Padawan seemed to enjoy tromping up and down the hill to relay the hose before filling the hole with water. Satchmo, 1) I don't have a good first step anymore but I had that rooster 2x but passed for Padawan to get him. 2) Related to 1), Satchmo has a really good change of direction 3) I am smarter than the rooster, I'm the one who guided the Padawan and positioned myself to push Satch into the coop.
Signs. No, I think "work makes you tired" is more accurate than 'work makes you free'.
by ry on May 5, 2008 2:25 PM
I'm the one who guided the Padwan and positioned myself to push Satch into the coop.
Dude, feeling the need to "crow" about it?
by kat-missouri on May 5, 2008 2:32 PM
***shakes head ruefully***
Capo dei tutti i capi, FM - Capo dei tutti i capi.
by Boquisucio on May 5, 2008 9:38 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
October 31, 2007
For What It's Worth...
...you've seen me give hat-tip credit for the atrocious puns and oddball jokes with which V29 and Doc E bombard me (thereby reinforcing my rep as a real stand-up, albeit strait-laced, individual) and you've "met" V29 via his semifrequent comments and the TINS Times Two we tag-teamed on a while back.
So, I figger it's time to introduce Doc E.

He's the guy on the left who forgot his sunblock. And, yes, he really *is* a doctor (even though he's never played one on TV), or, more precisely, he's now a *retired* doctor. But he prefers playing with his 'puter to playing with golf sticks -- he's a hi-tech hobbyist who's translated some of his pix from the Ol' Days into some YouTube vids, and I think you'll find his most recent effort a bit thought-provoking.
I'll link it after this caveat: although the pix and music are work-safe, there's a picture at the 6:35 mark you might want to view alone, or forego viewing altogether.
It's a shot of one of our cockpits after a typical day suddenly became a really bad one. The pilot was from my platoon.
It's a reminder that there's a price tag on freedom.
And so long as we would have freedom, there will be a price upon it, and so long as there is a price, there must be those willing to give what is asked, or we will no longer have freedom. Now transfer the image of that Huey cockpit to the interior of a Hummer or a sandbag checkpoint...
We're a fortunate people to have among us those who have given what was asked. We have the freedom for which they have paid -- and continue to pay.
It's only fair that we return them something in the way of repayment, isn't it?
Valour-IT: for what it's worth...
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
G'Day John,
I visit your blog probably not as often as I should, but reasonably often.
Sadly, there have been a couple of quite recent Aussie casualties in Afghanistan.
Yes, there is a price tag on freedom.
Lest We Forget.
by
Phil on October 31, 2007 5:02 AM
I didn't look away, Bill. It's the least I can do to honor the men who died.
Thanks to Doc E for putting that together. It's a perfect reminder of the importance of Project Valour-IT.
by
Barb on October 31, 2007 10:40 AM
The caveat was for the kids who wander in, Barb. Castlekin have tougher psyches.
by
BillT on October 31, 2007 5:01 PM
Thanks! You say the sweetest things :-)
by
Barb on October 31, 2007 7:05 PM
Well, the Doc is striking a noble Napoleonic pose there. What I wanna know, is the name of the guy in the silly conical hat, showing his tummy.
Bill?
P.s. I can't see Youtube vids on this ancient system. Are the images of which you write available as stills someplace?
by
Justthisguy on October 31, 2007 10:07 PM
...the name of the guy in the silly conical hat
JTG -- That'd be WO1 Leroy Dike, is my guess (the pic was taken after I left). The 55-gallon drum structure is our above-ground bunker (the water table was nine inches below the surface), which would withstand direct hits from 81mm mortars, but not from 122mm rockets. The background hootch looks like one of the wooden barracks they built after yours truly had departed for the Land of the Big PX.
by
BillT on November 1, 2007 7:30 AM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
by
CW4BillT
on
Oct 31, 2007
October 11, 2007
Carrying Coals to Newcastle. Or to the New Castle. Or...
...tossing lighter fluid on the coals.
Cassie got some mileage from her observations on the inequities -- and possible iniquities -- you can bump into when dealing with The System. Or, more properly, when dealing with the human beings who comprise The System. However, here's a li'l quirky option she didn't consider:
I was at semi-loose ends the first time I got out of the Army (October 1972 -- Stop that! You *know* I'm that old!), so I figured I'd use my GI Bill bennies to add a fixed-wing rating to my helicopter one. I trotted down to the county seat, popped into the courthouse and approached the kiosk with the big red-white-and-blue VA above it.
Me (producing copy of DD-214): "I just got out of the Army and I'd like to apply for my GI Bill benefits."
Kiosk Occupant: "Okay, you must be planning on starting high school in January, because the school year has already started."
Me: "*??* High school? Noooo, I've already got a BA -- I want to go to a flight school and get my fixed wing rating."
KO: "Well, if you've already got a college degree, you're going to have to wait -- we've got guys who haven't even been through high school. We're not committing funds for advanced degrees until we get everybody a high school diploma."
Me: "But I'm not looking for an advanced degree -- I want to go to a civilian flight school."
KO: "Same difference. We're not turning *any* money loose unless it's going for somebody's high school education."
Me: "Okay, so where does that put me on this educational waiting list?"
KO: "At the bottom."
Six months later (same kiosk occupant):
Me: "Hi, I'd like to check on GI Bill funding availability for a civilian flight school."
KO: "Nothing's available. We're not turning *any* money loose unless it's going for somebody's high school education."
One year later (still the same kiosk occupant):
Me: "Hi, I'd like to use my GI Bill to go to a civilian flight school."
KO: "You're out of luck, then. We're not turning *any* money loose unless it's going for somebody's high school education."
So, because I now had a job which had me working 60 hours a week (and on-call on weekends), I put off checking for a few years. Then I fell into a full-time job with the Guard and had even *less* spare time. When I finally got a breather and figured I now had the time to go after a fixed wing rating, I realized that I'd waited too long and had lost my eligibility.
The quirky li'l option I mentioned? Well, it seems the VA kiosk occupant wasn't even a fed from the Veterans' Administration. He was a New Jersey state employee from the Veterans' *Affairs* office and used to hang out in the -- unmanned -- Veterans' *Administration* kiosk. 'Nother words, he was somebody outside the system (or only involved at the periphery) who had a personal agenda.
Why? I'll never know -- he'd been fired a couple of years previously for cause...
...'way before I could get down there with a riot baton to beat the answer out of him.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
K.O. Should be very easy to find. Just look into the nearest S.C.H.I.P. help desk; he's sure to be his same chipper self.
by Boquisucio on October 11, 2007 8:06 AM
...he's sure to be his same chipper self.
Oooooh. Mentioning "KO" and "chipper" in the same sentence has given me an even *better* idea.
Hey, John -- interested in some nice, 100% organic mulch?
by
BillT on October 11, 2007 10:51 AM
Um, well, er, ah, um, mebbe.
by
John of Argghhh! on October 11, 2007 3:10 PM
Okay, got a 50-gallon trash bag for ya. Just keep the EG away from it 'til it dries out real well -- there's a bunch of polyester fibers mixed in there somewhere (I got the big scraps out) and they'll raise hob with a pooch's digestive tract even worse than scarfing the tootsie rolls outta the litterbox will...
by
BillT on October 11, 2007 6:27 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
by
CW4BillT
on
Oct 11, 2007
October 4, 2007
TINS! Numbah Ten!
I smacked Real Life on the snoot and it hasn't come to -- yet.
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Số mười, GI. And this one was definitely a Number 10 for the ground participants:
As you recall, the mission was a combat assault.

And if you don't recall, well, it was *still* a combat assault.
The Plan called for a five-ship insertion into the southeastern green quadrangle after the morning monsoon ended and, after the troops began moving westward into this neck of the U Minh, a second five-ship insertion would make an insertion into the quadrangle just west of the WR0 line. Those troops would move into the U Minh and take up blocking positions along the trail bordering the Rach Xen Bau canal -- when they were in position, the troops from the first insertion would re-orient and sweep towards them through the jungle, driving any VC they'd flushed toward the blockers. A heavy fire team of Copperheads would be patrolling between the shoreline and the trees on left flank security detail. After the action was over, everybody was supposed to procede to the western quadrangle for extraction. Sounds like a plan, right? But did I mention the jungle was the U Minh Forest?
Nasty place.
The morning monsoon ceased right on time (you could set your watch by the rainshowers if you didn't mind being maybe ten minutes off every couple of days) and there were still some broken clouds layered at about 2,500 and 7,000 feet. I was flying C&C, enroute at two grand to scope out the LZs; the Copperheads would do the close-in recon, and they were trailing me at about a mile, staying on the treetops. If there was anybody home to hear the noise, they'd associate it with me until the guns appeared. We'd left the flight at Ca Mau, about ten minutes away; they'd crank in another five minutes and bring in the first lift, because I'd have a decent LZ brief by then. We figured that if it took you more than five minutes to formulate the approach path, approach type, enemy situation and obstacle warning, touchdown point, egress route and suppression instructions, you were snoozing -- these days, they spend *hours* on "The Mission Plan: Actions Approaching the LZ" "...Actions In the LZ" et cetera -- usually with the same results that we got in five minutes.
*shrug*
The aircraft are six times as expensive, so I guess you've gotta spend six times longer on The Plan.
Visibility beneath and between cloud decks was great -- I identified the LZs when I was still a good seven miles to the southeast (the lower right corner of the map, ry) and, when I got closer, I could see something else.
Four guys un-camouflaging something.
"Hey, Three-One, One-Five on Uniform -- I've got people on our side of the north-south blue just short of--"
A 12.7mm Soviet heavy anti-aircraft machinegun. Aka, a .51 cal. See the red circle on the map?
"Owwww! Fifty-one! Fifty-one! Fifty-one! Break south -- One-five is going for the clouds!"
When concealment is closer than cover, opt for concealment. I'd already figured if I turned to run or dove, they had an excellent chance at nailing me, but I could climb 500 feet and be inside the scud before they could get a shot off. I yanked the cyclic back and the collective up, and went from straight-and-level at 100 knots to climbing in bat-outta-hell mode with zero knots forward airspeed.
Yours Truly to pilot: "Keep your eyes on that .51 -- lemme know when they start elevating it."
Pilot to YT: "Like they're doing now?"
*jink left, right pedal turn 90 degrees, keep climbing -- they don't have radar, and the jink 'n' pedal turn will skew his lead angle -- I hope*
Into the clouds. Six seconds later, out of the clouds.
"Hey, One-Five, Three-One, Uniform -- you sure you don't want company up there?"
"No, you'll just -- waitaminnit. Head south for three more minutes, then frag off one of the guns to Ca Mau for fuel -- have him tell the flight to hang loose and monitor Victor. Then you and your wingman head west to the Gulf, then turn north along the shore until you're over the PZ. Fly a long orbit and make noise, but keep the trees between you and the .51."
"Roger that. I sent Three-Three back. Don't get a nosebleed way up there."
YT: "Okay, how do you figure we're gonna get those guys?"
Pilot: "By that, I take it that we're not going to do something sensible, like go away from something designed to shoot down friggin' Messerschmitts?"
YT: "What's sensible got to do with it? I didn't get up at 0430 just to enjoy cold C-rats at Ca Mau at sunrise. Think."
Pilot: "Well, using the guns would be stupid -- they'd get killed before they got the first rocket off. Ummm -- you planning on dropping stuff on them?"
YT: "In a manner of speaking. Where were we yesterday?"
Pilot: "At that Marine Tiger Team fort. The one with the -- ooooh, artillery!"
Continued in Flash Traffic, so I don't blow all kat's Monday/Tuesday stuff through the bottom of the blog...
Flash Traffic (extended entry) Follows �
YT: "Yup. That .51 is right on the canal junction -- I can send a ten-digit grid. And the Marines are right on the north-south canal, so that's our gun-target line (if you haven't memorized the map yet, look for the magenta line. What, you thought I'd use *red*?). They've got one-seven-fives, and they fire a shell heavier than *I* am with a hundred-meter bursting radius -- and even if we only get close, the concussion will flatten them and the mud from the burst will bury 'em."
Yep. A 100-meter bursting radius and, at the range we were going to adjust, a normal dispersion of about a grid square (that's an old artillery joke)...
Long-story-short.
The clouds were drifting east and broken enough to give me a decent view of the target area from about 3,000 feet up while I was flying along the blue ellipsoid on the map. The first few rounds were on line and within 500 meters of the target, then they started to wander so far to the right (using the GT line) that they were hitting in the U Minh Swamp. Between exploding thirty feet deep in the the muck and the smoke dispersing through the foliage, I couldn't adjust for squat.
And, to make life even more exciting, whenever I strayed too far from the clouds, the VC gun crew would scramble to put a quick burst in my direction. Because I was being sneaky by flying out-of-trim, they'd miss by a mile. Copperhead 31 also had me in sight and razzed me every time he heard me make another adjustment, which just added to my determination to kill something before the day was over. Snarky UH-1C pilots included.
Back to square One.
YT to USMCFA: "Change adjustment. Mark Center of Sector, one round, Willie Pete, over."
Gyrene Guns: "Roj-oh, mark Center of Sector with one round of Willie Peter, out."
*pop into the clouds*
GG: "Shot, over."
YT: "Shot, out."
*pop out of the clouds to observe the burst*
GG: "Splash, over."
YT: "Splash, out."
...four, three, two -- looking out along the canal line for the football-field-sized white phosphorus--
!!! AIRBURST RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME !!!
Into the cloud. Six seconds later, out of the cloud. However, due to the aerodynamic peculiarities of the UH-1H, we'd already sucked a Huey-sized gulp of white phosphorus smoke into the cockpit and cabin, which, also due to the aerodynamic peculiarities of the UH-1H, proceded to leach out into the slipstream in as pretty a smoke trail as a stunt plane's at an airshow. Three-One hadn't seen the burst, but he *did* see me pop from behind a cloud.
Trailing a *lot* of white smoke.
Whereupon he keyed the mike and said, "Hey, One-Five -- uhh, ya do know yer on fire, don't ya?"
My reply was not suitable for your tender sensibilities, dear readers.
And, needless to say, I do not adhere to the old aviation dictum about ignoring ground fire -- "Big sky, little bullet."
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Epilogue: After I decided Somebody didn't want me to verbally abuse the Marines any more, a Black Pony popped up on Guard (243.0 UHF, for the grognards) and asked if he could play with us. Oh, yessss!
I gave the artillery End Of Mission, AA Gun Crew Terrified, gave the OV-10 driver the location of the .51 and told him to have at it. He climbed up to 6,000 feet, did a wingover and came straight. down. at. the. gun. About 3,000 feet ( I was 'way off to the southeast, watching from behind a cloud), he launched a pair of 5-inch Zuni rockets, peeled left, and climbed back above me.
One of the rockets hit the canal junction and the other hit the .51. We felt the double *thwumpk* before we heard it -- my crewchief swore he watched the tripod fly a hundred feet across the canal before it disappeared into a paddy.
"Three-One, One-Five on Uniform -- tell Three-Three to follow the flight out here." *click* "All Vultures, One-Five on Victor -- go ahead and launch, give me a call when you're five minutes from the LZ."
YT: "Whoever's been watching from the woodline is gonna have a heart attack in about fifteen minutes."
Pilot: "Good. I had one when the Willie Pete went off, so that'll even things out..."
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*doink!*
Serves me right for staying up 'til 0200...
by
BillT on October 4, 2007 9:49 AM
Snerk - trying to hit a point target with a 175. Geez, Bill, no wonder they let you go fly helos...
by
John of Argghhh! on October 4, 2007 10:17 AM
Oooh, didn't see that coming... at least it wasn't an HE airburst.
by
Pogue on October 4, 2007 10:24 AM
I was waiting for him to run out of fuel after all that time messing with the little gun.
by
kat-missouri on October 4, 2007 10:36 AM
Wow, between the WP and the smoke from it in the cockpit, I'm surprised you could see at all!
by NinjaFluff on October 4, 2007 10:43 AM
Snerk - trying to hit a point target with a 175.
You don't *have* to hit it with a 175 -- you just have to get close enough for the crap-nel to scare the gunners off.
Then you nip down and steal their friggin' gun.
...didn't see that coming...
We didn't either. Saw it after it got there, though.
I was waiting for him to run out of fuel...
Oh, thanks. Next time I won't give you a free ad.
I could've screwed around for two hours and still made it to Ca Mau or Rach Gia.
by
BillT on October 4, 2007 11:02 AM
Notice how he doesn't mention me hanging on the skids and backflapping for all I'm worth so the WP was a near miss rather than a direct hit. And some of that "cloud of white smoke" was a chunk of my starboard pinions. Not the first time and it certainly wasn't the last either.
by carborundum on October 4, 2007 11:43 AM
No...I wasn't "hoping" you'd run out of fuel...just "anticipating" the next hair raising part of the story. LOL
by
kat-missouri on October 4, 2007 11:51 AM
Well, good news is that you weren't actually On Fire, bad news is breathing WP isn't good for your health. Then again, yer still around, so ol' Carborundum's backflip musta worked pretty well ;-)
by
Barb on October 4, 2007 12:32 PM
You guys should have stayed above 25,000 feet.
by
lex on October 4, 2007 1:02 PM
Well John they nearly hit the point target rotoring around the clouds that's high precision isn't it? Even if low accuracy.
by
Trias on October 4, 2007 4:00 PM
So that was the noise we heard over on the Song Ong Doc?????
by Old Fat Sailor on October 4, 2007 6:08 PM
...between the WP and the smoke from it in the cockpit, I'm surprised you could see at all!
Well, considering we all slammed our eyes shut just before we punched in, seeing was kinda out of the loop for a few seconds. But if you lean forward far enough, you've got the altimeter, the airspeed indicator and the VSI right in front of you. You don't have to look outside to be able to keep it upright. Of course, keeping it upright and not bumping into something are two different things...
Heh -- kat, if I'd been dumb enough to run out of fuel, they would've grounded me and stuck me back in the artillery. Probably on the staff...
...bad news is breathing WP isn't good for your health.
Stinks a little, but as long as *koff* you don't *koff* inhale the burning *hack* stuff, it's no big *koff* *wheeze* deal.
You guys should have stayed above 25,000 feet.
Nah -- nosebleeds. Besides, you can't see the "uh-oh, shooting at him was a bad idea" expression on their faces from that high...
So that was the noise we heard over on the Song Ong Doc?????
I doubt it -- we were at least 50 klicks north of you and a 175 doesn't make *that* big a noise. But it might have been the 5-ton bomb a C-123 dropped east of Sea Float to make us an instant LZ in July, or it could have been an Arc Light (the Air Farce was always trying to catch us unawares), or maybe it was...
by
BillT on October 4, 2007 8:03 PM
Well John they nearly hit the point target rotoring around the clouds
A 175 round would always hit *something* -- even if it was only Planet Earth...
by
BillT on October 4, 2007 8:07 PM
Besides, you can't see the "uh-oh, shooting at him was a bad idea" expression on their faces from that high...
That's our SugarButtons--always a "people" person ...
by
bad cat robot on October 4, 2007 9:22 PM
Yeah, making eye contact always gives these things that personal touch -- it tells 'em, "Hey, I *feel* your pain. Just not quite as much..."
by
BillT on October 5, 2007 6:23 AM
Bill shows his inner infantryman, or lunatic. Rational people kill their enemies at a far enough distance that they can avoid looking them in the eye, unless they're really mad at them.
Uh, wait...
by
Justthisguy on October 6, 2007 10:36 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
by
CW4BillT
on
Oct 04, 2007
October 2, 2007
TINS! You Picked It (Again)
Well, the voting was close, in keeping with the spirit of the TINS!, in which *all* the calls are close. And at least nobody said, "Hey, all that stuff happened while you were still in Flight School!"
Nooooo, they *didn't*, and I have the best witnesses a quart of muscatel can buy.
Unfortunately, Real World reared it's misbegotten multiple heads so often I didn't get the chance to write anything for the past two days. *But* -- because I like ya, and you've waited so patiently to see me get my ass shot off yet again something tangible, here's a preview of what Numbah 10 was all about:

Yup, all those pretty colored kindergarten shapes actually *mean* something. I won't tell you exactly what, of course, until I figure out how to keep from getting my ass shot off actually type up the story. I'll give you a couple of hints, though.
The Plan.
Me.
Them.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Off to Bollimer. With any luck, I'll be there before any of you can wake up, read this, and ask me to retrieve a certain stuffed marmoset...
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Be warned, some of us read on the midwatch.
Now about that stuffed critter...
by bc on October 2, 2007 12:05 AM
Hmmmm, a .51, theres gonna be pucker factor in this story....
by Old Fat Sailor on October 2, 2007 12:42 AM
OFS ~ there's an understatement for ya. Yikes.
by
HomefrontSix on October 2, 2007 1:21 AM
There is not enough room nor enough stale cheetos for the Marmoset(stuffed or not) here in Castle Argghhh!'s Purgatory. Sorry. If Cassie were willing to subsidize upkeep of said Marmoset with comic books and choco-pudding(not slated for the choco-gun, which isn't looking so good since it hasn't been used in a while and Sgt. B hasn't been by to service it), well, then something could be arranged.
by ry on October 2, 2007 4:54 AM
Eeeeewwww - Just the thought of Sgt. B servicing a stale Marmoset, is enough to ruin anyone's day.
by Boquisucio on October 2, 2007 7:51 AM
Boq - that's baa-a-ad. And I'm peeved that you got to post it before I did! Hehehe.
It's the return of Twitchy Bill! Yeeha!
by
Barb on October 2, 2007 8:51 AM
I'm wondering why rusmilitary.com is a banned site at work...
No. Actually, I should have known anything with "military" in the name would be a banned site for a company headquarted in Portland, OR.
frggin libs.
i'm testy today... and thinking about B servicing a stale marmoset put a big smile on my face! Thanks Boq!
by AFSister on October 2, 2007 9:47 AM
AFSis - try this link.
by
John of Argghhh! on October 2, 2007 3:13 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
by
CW4BillT
on
Oct 02, 2007
September 30, 2007
Sundry Sunday
An old farmer in Georgia had owned his farm for several years. He had a *huge* pond in the back, fixed up real nice; picnic tables, volleyball net, a horseshoe pitch -- like I said, real nice. And he'd properly shaped and graded the pond for swimming when he built it. One evening, the old farmer decided to go down to the pond, as he hadn't been there for a while, and look it over.
As he neared the pond, he heard voices shouting and laughing with glee.
As he came still closer, he saw the noise originated from a bunch of young ladies skinny-dipping in his pond. He coughed to make the ladies aware of his presence and they immediately swam to the deep end of the pond. One of them shouted to him, "We're not coming out until you leave!"
The old man replied, "Calm down, now, hon -- I didn't come down here to watch you ladies swim or make you get out of the pond nekkid--
"--I'm just here to feed the alligator..."
V-29 swears he *didn't* make that up.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
So far, the Kill Bill Match the TINS! to the Radio Call Contest has produced some enlightening results: Brab and NinjaFluff (with Pogue flying CAS) want to see me crisped, the starch-wing contingent wants me to go trolling for flak, Sis wants to see me ventilated, ry's opting for a Blue-on-Blue and Two Who Shall Remain Nameless want me to go up for a rematch with the heat-seeker. At least Cassie hasn't shown up to fling the trivet. Or engage in rampant foot-tapping, followed by a faire la moue et la flounce.
However, if the trend holds, *most* of you will be able to -- ahem -- brag about your prescience...
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Wow, slow day. They're not even bitin' on 'yer jokes, Unka Bill.
by ry on September 30, 2007 9:29 AM
Oh, that joke is so old it should have moss growing on it. I used to tell it as a Cajun joke...
MC
by
mostly cajun on September 30, 2007 10:15 AM
Mostly Caje did.
Looks like V-29 was right -- he *didn't* make it up!
by
BillT on September 30, 2007 2:13 PM
hahahahaha
by AFSister on September 30, 2007 7:38 PM
hahahahaha
Uh-oh. I recognize *that* laugh...
by
BillT on October 1, 2007 6:48 AM
It's too early on a Monday... but at least this is a decent start to the day. I don't care if it is old, it's still funny!
by NinjaFluff on October 1, 2007 11:36 AM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
by
CW4BillT
on
Sep 30, 2007
September 28, 2007
Friday Two-Fers
Yesterday, ry walked all over it with golf spikes was kind enough to remind me that I walked all over it with football cleats hadn't yet announced the winner of the new tagline contest from a couple of weeks ago.
Ahem.
According to the rules of the contest, which you *all* read, agreed to, and then consigned to memory -- with the evident exception of ry -- nobody won. There were some really, really, *really* good one-liners that *nobody voted for*. So, it looks like I'm stuck with answering the once-a-month e-mail with "It's an OH-58D" in the subject line. For the time being. And it's all your fault, slackers.
Eeeep! I'm channeling John...
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
However, with me, you always get a shot at redemption. First, for those of you who have been stuck in a two-year time warp remember this one from a little while ago, congratulations on your admirable ability to restrain your curiosity for this length of time. Second, for those of you who are new to the site (and we *all* know who you are, but like you a lot anyway), here's the synopsis:
Every once in a while, regardless of what your particular job happens to be in the military, you hear a comment or a call over the radio that makes you realize how badly it sucks being you at that particular instance and in that particular point in space. One morning, I shook a bunch of them out of the *Ohhh-Boy!* compartment and listed them -- there's a TINS! that accompanies each -- and I asked you to vote for the particular one you figured would bore you the least deemed most interesting.
1. "Ooops!" [#1] -- from a gunship, two seconds after his rocket hit the (flooded) paddy I was just about to land in. Right underneath me. Instant concussive waterfall.
2. "Holy sh*t! They said Charlie didn't have any flak down here! One-Five, are any of you guys still alive in there?"
3. "Ooops!" [#2] -- from a different gunship, one nanosecond before my crewchief screamed that a rocket had just passed between our right skid and the belly of the aircraft.
4. "Hey, One-Five, you look like Niagara Falls. I thought those fuel cells were supposed to be self-sealing."
5. "Aaaaah! One-Five's dead!" -- from my copilot, right after I took a direct hit in the chicken plate that slammed me flailing off the controls while we were at flat pitch in an LZ. I thought I was dead and his squeak didn't do anything to lessen my depression.
6. "Sir? The world's biggest tracer just came offa Nui Coto an' -- geez, it's following us!" -- my introduction to the game of helicopter vs. heat-seeking missile. I won. Barely.
7. "Chalk Four, you've still got a tailboom. Couldn't say for how much longer, though."
8. "The SEALs are ready for pickup, sir. Along with about a platoon of VC on the other side of the treeline they're in."
9. "Sector TOC wants you to check out a possible 37mm site west of Nui Hon Soc. The others they sent there never called in."
10. "Hey, One-Five -- uhh, ya do know yer on fire, don't ya?"
Number 6 won. 'Fess up. You guys wanted to see if I really *did* get out of these things alive, didn't you...
However, there are still nine more to go, each one a bigger yawner than the last leading to a small vignette of a TINS! Pick a number and pop it into the comments -- the biggest vote-getter gets posted. And remember, one legit addy,
*glowering at a certain Denizenne blogtwin with multiple persona disorder*
one legit vote.
And then we'll do it again. And again, and again, and again until I figure you're ready to take on the sidebar -- again.
Two-Niner's allowed to pass, although he'll probably pop in to snark, because he either made some of the calls or knows the story already.
He *thinks* so, anyway.
Heh -- you don't think I only have *nine* stories left, do ya?
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Yeah, I walked all over it. And got a rapping of my knuckles by Cassie for my efforts too. I'd swear that woman was a Catholic School Nun if I didn't already know better. (Maybe I shouldn't say that in this crowd. Who knows what mind in the gutter comment will be made next.)
And I wouldn't mind hearing Oooops#1.
by ry on September 28, 2007 7:33 AM
*sigh*
I have FAILED MY TWIN! Not ONE VOTE? For ANY OF THEM?
I demand a recount! And I vote for HF6's "the ground repels them" comment. Lurv that one.
As for a new TINS story, I promise to play by the rules for ONCE in my life and will only vote one time. For #8. After all, who wouldn't love a story that involves SEALs?
by AFSister on September 28, 2007 8:05 AM
Who knows what mind in the gutter comment will be made next
With this crowd? Not a one.
After all, who wouldn't love a story that involves SEALs?
Me. For about five hours -- uhhh -- *minutes*, anyway.
Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When sustained automatic weapons fire turns the minutes to hours?
Sorry 'bout that, Gord-O.
by
BillT on September 28, 2007 9:26 AM
The love of God is concentrated in the efforts of your Guardian Angels... the reason you are here to *relate* the TINS.
Geez, Bill, that was an easy one.
by
John of Argghhh! on September 28, 2007 9:28 AM
I, for one, vote for #10. Fire ALWAYS makes for a good story, and it's even better if someone else has to inform you about it!
by NinjaFluff on September 28, 2007 9:34 AM
I vote for #6. I wanna see if you survive. And I *know* you have more than nine stories left -- yer just waiting for the statute of limitations to expire on the rest.
by
bad cat robot on September 28, 2007 9:38 AM
Speaking of Numbah 6 - I call Beauchamp on you. I don't believe your Crew Chief used the word, "Geez" you fabulist!
by
John of Argghhh! on September 28, 2007 9:45 AM
One of the limitations on the R-44 heliothwopter is max altitude of 9000 AGL. The book states this because in case of fire you have a five minute firewall, and above 9000 it will take you longer than that to autorotate to a landing. That's got to be a long 5 minutes...
I want to hear #10!
by
Pogue on September 28, 2007 9:49 AM
Fire ALWAYS makes for a good story
[Memo to self: TINS!-bait pulls NinjaFluff out from the draperies -- evidently schools with the other Denizennes when in stealth mode]
Aaaand BCR chimes in with a vote for Number Six. Won't she be surprised...
I don't believe your Crew Chief used the word, "Geez" you fabulist!
He most certainly did. Granted, it was the polysyllabic version, but it really-truly *started* with "Geez"...
...in case of fire you have a five minute firewall...
Betcha you could get a Robinson on the ground *real* fast if the fire started on the wrong side of the wall, though...
by
BillT on September 28, 2007 10:29 AM
*giggles as BCR*
lolololol
by AFSister on September 28, 2007 10:34 AM
I still want to hear them all. But I will echo NinjaFluff's vote for #10, which was one of my choices wayyyyy back when.
*grin*
by
Barb on September 28, 2007 10:43 AM
37mm HE vs Bell spam-can! #9's gotta be good!
by Neffi on September 28, 2007 11:50 AM
#6.
... to see if the story has been 'adjusted' in the past several years.
Cheers
by J.M. Heinrichs on September 28, 2007 12:03 PM
*giggles as BCR*
Not because you've fixed the death ray, I hope? You'll still chortle as WK, right?
... to see if the story has been 'adjusted' in the past several years.
Nope. Still there, warts and all. And I still lived. And the crewchief still said the G-Rated versio(u)n of what he really said.
by
BillT on September 28, 2007 1:02 PM
[Memo to self: TINS!-bait pulls NinjaFluff out from the draperies -- evidently schools with the other Denizennes when in stealth mode]
Nah... I just don't comment when I have nothing to add to the conversation. "Better they think you're a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!"
That being said... I think I heard about a whole bunch more votes for #10 somewhere around here... *grin*
by Ninjafluff on September 28, 2007 1:21 PM
Fiends.
by
BillT on September 28, 2007 1:46 PM
Or you could always give your side of this story ...
by
bad cat robot on September 28, 2007 1:58 PM
I *did*:
A foul canard.
I get up at 0530, *not* 0700. And the spider had a satchel charge...
See? Vindication.
by
BillT on September 28, 2007 2:54 PM
And these days, I get up at 0415. Gaby got hold of a sour vole last week and her GI tract has been in revolt ever since.
If I had it to do over again, I would've gone for the rancher with the drainage hole in the kitchen floor...
by
BillT on September 28, 2007 3:00 PM
First read and damn near laughed my ass off... Having done a few of those myself, I've got to vote for #9.
by
Old NFO on September 28, 2007 9:21 PM
Poor little pup - she just needs to spend quality time with Bigfoot all by her little self ;-)
by
Barb on September 28, 2007 11:29 PM
...she just needs to spend quality time with Bigfoot all by her little self.
If you mean getting ear-chin skritches whenever she takes a break from trying to tackle Scout, jumping over Jake (while he's standing up) and boxing with Muffy the Maleficent, that -- plus leaping onto my lap whenever I sit down -- is the normal drill. She's turning into WereKitty...
by
BillT on September 29, 2007 12:06 PM
Number 9, please.
Although number 10 sounds fascinating, don't the Vietnamese consider that number unlucky? Maybe he should call that one "10a" "10+1"... ;)
by
Casey Tompkins on September 30, 2007 1:01 PM
Not unlucky, just the pits, as in "Choi oi, Numbah Ten."
Or, if it's really, *really* super-bad, "Choi-duc oi, sinh loi, Numbah Ten Thousand!"
by
BillT on September 30, 2007 2:18 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
by
CW4BillT
on
Sep 28, 2007
September 17, 2007
The Problem with Mangoes...
...is that you've gotta peel them before you can eat them. At least, us furriners do, otherwise you're just asking for a dance lesson -- the Taliban Two-Step. Soooo, because mangoes have a skin like a pear instead of something sensible, like an orange, you either need a long, sharp fingernail (which possesses its own issues, unless you have a really wild guitar-pickin' style) or a knife. And, since mango juice is kinda like superglue when it dries, I figured I needed something a bit easier to clean than my Swiss Army toolbox.
There are other things for sale in the local armament bazaars than bang-sticks (and replicas thereof), which is convenient, because I wasn't planning to peel any mangoes with a Khyber rifle. Got myself a Khyber knife, instead. Welllll, okay, it's a Kashmiri folder, but it *could* have been a Khyber knife if it really, really wanted to.
This one wasn't the biggest one of the bunch (I didn't need an Ilbarsi three-footer and I *don't* have Freudian hangups), but all I needed was a decent mango-peeler, so I got the pocket-size. The decorative extension of the spine is what keeps the peeler from slicing your pocket (and thigh) to ribbons when it's folded -- it serves as the edge guard.
It ratchets open nicely and locks like a champ (the seller made a slashing feint at my jugular to prove it wouldn't flop closed); the latch flips up to unlock the blade when you've finished the mango massacree.
Heh. After the seller took his swipe, he grinned and said, "Hah! You are an officer, yes! Not a flinch! Civilian *always* jump back when I do that!" I just grinned my trademark boyish grin at him and told him, "*Retired* officer." What I *didn't* tell him was he telegraphed his move with a windup, he couldn't have stuck me unless he stepped forward another two feet (and his table was in the way) -- and, since we'd already spent a half hour drinking tea and talking flintlocks, I knew he wanted to make a sale, not a dead gringo.
Besides, I couldn't have backed up even if I wanted to -- I was already leaning against his wall.
I did get the lowdown on shipping arms out of Pakistan, though. The gummint doesn't really care *what* you buy, as long as it's not post-WWII and you pay a couple of bucks export tax. If you know an exporter who ships mass quantities of -- say, carpets -- to the US, you can avoid a lot of the usual red tape at both ends.
"Okay, what's your brother shipping today?"
"Two hundred Nepalese carpets, a functional replica of an SMLE and a Baluchi flintlock shotgun."
"Hmmmmm -- I want to examine those carpets..."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Heh. Maybe poor Joe gets stuck in the decision loop,

but I made all of *my* decisions along those lines instantaneously. Comes from years and years of analyzing the situation then-at-hand and asking this simple question:
Do I drink one bottle or two?
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
OMG he's considering Fosters and some poor schmuck has already opened it. I hope that was to pour it out as insecticide.
by
Trias on September 17, 2007 1:38 AM
And in case Neffi had anything snide planned about the rust, it cleaned up very nicely with some steel wool, a Q-tip and alcohol. The bone bolsters are still brownish -- it's not an antique, but it ain't new, either. The seller claimed it's ninety years old, I figure it's about fifty.
by
BillT on September 17, 2007 1:38 AM
OMG he's considering Fosters...
Judging from the *urp* look on his face -- he's *not*...
by
BillT on September 17, 2007 5:47 AM
With a Beck's, don't be perplexed!
by fdcol63 on September 17, 2007 7:14 AM
I could almost hear Joe holler: ***.
by Boquisucio on September 17, 2007 7:52 AM
but how is it at slicing fingers? These are the burning questions...as to the beer, I have no clue.
by Cricket on September 17, 2007 8:30 AM
Snide? Moi? Actually Chief, I'm kinda jealous- that's a nice looking blade and whilst my collecting is of the military variety I do have a side interest in 'ethnic' knives... the *real* ones, as opposed to touristy rubbish.
And it looks quite capable of handling a mango or two.
by Neffi on September 17, 2007 9:03 AM
Hmph, he can get Stella Artois over there, but I can't get it into my shop to sell in Missouri. Stupid state liquor laws....
And, what's in the green tallboy can on the far left? My beeriousity wants to know.
Finally, Becks and Fosters... blugh!
by Kevin on September 17, 2007 10:10 AM
The mango juice, if allowed to ferment into mango vinegar, is capable of dissolving concrete. There are places on the garage floor at our old house which were smooth, and are now quite rough. My Dad left mangoes there and forgot about them.
by
Justthisguy on September 17, 2007 10:31 AM
but how is it at slicing fingers?
With the edge I put on it, it should make a beeline for bone. Of course, "I sliced my finger off with a Kashmiri Folding Mango Knife" doesn't quite sing the way "I bayoneted myself today" does, do I wouldn't be able to parlay that into a Barney-meet.
Speaking of singing, how's Ry's Redwood Rest Stop plaque-naming contest going?
My Dad left mangoes there and forgot about them.
Urk. Had to have happened in cool weather, or the solid wall of fruit flies would have been a dead giveaway...
by
BillT on September 17, 2007 11:48 AM
Nice mango-slicer, Bill. Even folded up, that's a big knife to haul around in one's pocket!
by
Barb on September 17, 2007 12:53 PM
Of course, "I sliced my finger off with a Kashmiri Folding Mango Knife" doesn't quite sing the way "I bayoneted myself today" does, do I wouldn't be able to parlay that into a Barney-meet.
Such petty jealousy from the little people.
We sniff and walk on.
No doubt tripping because our nose is in the air...
And you didn't bring me any presents back, either!
by
John of Argghhh! on September 17, 2007 1:17 PM
I'm sure SugarButtons has a *plentiful* supply of the local microfauna that he could share with you ...
by
bad cat robot on September 17, 2007 2:12 PM
Even folded up, that's a big knife to haul around in one's pocket!
Oh sure, Brab- like he's gonna tell anyone it's a *knife*...!
by Neffi on September 17, 2007 2:49 PM
Oh sure, Brab- like he's gonna tell anyone it's a *knife*...!
Sure, I do.
I also tell them it's a great counterbalance...
And you didn't bring me any presents back, either!
That Monmouth trip still on?
by
BillT on September 17, 2007 6:25 PM
Um, no. I'm going to Benning, instead. Closest I got to where you are was this weekend...
by
John of Argghhh! on September 17, 2007 6:32 PM
Umm, Chief, there is no cool weather here, except for a random week or two around Christmas and the Feast of the Circumcision.
No, Dad, like m'self I'm afraid, refused to take notice of things he didn't care about.
Drove Mom nuts, it did.
.
by
Justthisguy on September 17, 2007 7:14 PM
Oh, and when Hurricane Charlie, I think it was, went through here, it knocked all of the mangoes off of our trees. I industriously picked them all up, and put them up on the camper-top on my truck, to get dry and ripe. I had gone for a walk and hurt my aged knee, after that, and was lying up and resting, and healing.
I heard some motor noises outside, thought it was the trash collectors.
A bit later I went out and saw that all of my carefully salvaged mangoes were gone!
Dang! We were in a declared state of emergency then! Had I seen that looter doing that (yes he was a looter) I could have lawfully shot him dead dead dead. In the liver.
Argghh
by
Justthisguy on September 17, 2007 7:25 PM
h.
.
by
Justthisguy on September 17, 2007 7:30 PM
Dang. That was quick. We must have googlebots in the draperies...
by
BillT on September 17, 2007 7:38 PM
-5 for Spelling. +5 for quick recovery.
Bill - Snerk. But yes, once we got to a page rank of six or so, the Googlebot started coming around about every 4 hours or so.
But they might be hiding in the drapes.
We'll have Ry take them out for airing and whacking!
by
John of Argghhh! on September 17, 2007 8:23 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
by
CW4BillT
on
Sep 17, 2007
June 24, 2007
TINS! Whatever Can Go Wrong, Will Do So
And it will do so at the worst possible time, even if you've done everything to insure it wouldn't.
This one's for you folks who pop in on weekends. Remember Fuzzybear Lioness agonizing over her Excellent Gate-Crashing Exploit? Wonder what she'd have had to say if she'd been along on this particular magic carpet ride...
Every year, every Army Aviator gets a birthday present from Fort (aka "Mother") Rucker -- his (okay, okay, or *her*) very own Flight Physical. However, just to insure that unwrapping this particular present isn't all beer and skittles, Mother also sees to it that some units don't have ready access to an Army Flight Surgeon and must make do with the services of an Air Force Flight Surgeon (and who knows where *their* hands have been).
Army Flight Surgeons habitually sit patiently in their dank lairs corner offices in the local Clinic - Wellness Center - Whatever, patiently awaiting the arrival of whomever happened to have the misfortune of being born during that particular quarter of the year. Generally speaking, they're usually accessible except, of course, on Wednesdays, when they're out on the links with every other doctor within six counties. Visiting one is relatively simple -- hop in your car, find a Fort, slow to a crawl so the gate guard can see your access decal, produce your ID card for scrutiny and you're over the major hurdle.
Air Force Flight Surgeons view their demesne from behind massive desks of exotic wood situated in the center of their I Love Me offices, situated at the hub of their brightly-lit suite of examining rooms. A reservation for an appointment is, naturally, de rigeur; but since they golf on Mondays (to avoid the crowd of lesser docs), they're pretty much Doctor-Is-In on Wednesdays. However, availing oneself of the services of an Air Force Flight Surgeon entails travelling to the ethereal realms of -- an Air Base.
Which means getting past Base Security. The guys who are firmly convinced every Army Aviator has a burning desire to steal a multiengine, starched wing, fuel-bladder-with-a-cockpit.
So, the optimum solution is to fly *over* the APs, have a ground guide direct you to nestle the helicopter 'midst the aluminum overcast, get picked up by the crew bus and deposited in the vicinity of the Flight Medicine Edifice.
Weeeeelllll, that's how it's *supposed* to go. Nip back upstream and re-read the first sentences. I'll wait...
Okay, cutting to the chase: I'd made the reservation for the appointment, gotten the reservation, confirmed the reservation, refrained from eating anything containing cholesterol for 72 hours (followed by a 12-hour water-only fast), notified my Ops I'd need a Loach, computed the weight and balance form, did the aircraft performance planning, filed the Flight Plan, obtained the PPR (it means Prior Permission Required, Barb) to land at The Air Base, notified Base Ops that I'd be shutting down and would not require fuel, that I planned to be there for at least three hours and would request a Fire Guard when I was ready to depart.
I preflighted my trusty OH-6 and launched from home station. Ten minutes out from The Air Base, I called Base Ops on UHF to notify them I was inbound and gave them my PPR number. Five minutes out, I called Tower on VHF and announced that I had the numbers; I'd been listening to ATIS (not ADIZ -- whole different ball of wax) for wind data, landing runway, altimeter setting -- gotta do *something* when you're solo in a Loach, so you might as well find out what's going on at your destination before you get there. Tower cleared me to land and taxi to the ramp, where I could expect a ground guide to park me someplace I wouldn't contaminate the F-16s.
I entered the ramp and hovered in place, then spotted two blue boxvans approaching from different areas of the Jet Farm. Converging, actually. On *me*. With extreme rapidity. Just as I thought, "Well, gee, this is really nice of 'em, but I don't *need* a ride to the -- "
*screech of brakes* Out of each van popped
a. an AP with M9 in one hand and a Motorola Brick in the other,
b. two APs with M16 magazines firmly inserted into M16A1s and
c. one AP with an M60 attached to a fifty-round belt.
Ain't a single blank adapter on nuthin'. Copper jackets twinkled from the fifty-round belts, with orange noses in the appropriate locations. "Swell," I thought. "After they ventilate me, the Flight Surgeon can fill out the paperwork for my physical at the same time he does the autopsy..."
"Put your hands up and get out of the helicopter," comes The Voice of Doom from the ninth AP, hiding behind a van with a Brick in one hand and a loudspeaker in the other.
Bear in mind that I'm still at a three-foot hover, looking down the barrels of six automatic weapons.
"Put your hands up. Get out of the helicopter. This is your last warning!"
I key the mike on UHF and ask, "Hey, Ops, Guard 267 -- do you have commo with the A-Team out here?"
"Roger that."
"Could you please tell Hannibal Smith that I've gotta *land* before I get out? This thing doesn't have a Hover Button."
"*snort!* Roger, 267. Don't rip them too much after you get out -- they were just briefed that there's an alert pending and this place is secure against all threats except helicopters..."
*sigh*
Howsomever, I *did* pass my Flight Physical, and with no sign of elevated blood pressure.
Probably because my heart didn't start beating again until a couple of hours later...
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
A hover button on a helo.... sounds like a job for BCR Labs!
Good to see that you've still got "it", Bill- and "it" is the ability to take a somewhat normal situation and turn it into a TINS through a comedy of errors (or in this case, assumptions).
by AFSister on June 24, 2007 7:38 AM
Bill - If it makes you feel any better, AF cops treat us (those who work on/fly AF assets) the same way. They are taught to trust nobody, ever.
by Oldloadr on June 24, 2007 7:40 AM
Hmmm - maybe the flight surgeon set you up just to see what your BP would be? Nah - that would've required work ;-)
Gee, you just can't take a simple helo trip anymore, can you?!
by
Barb on June 24, 2007 9:37 AM
Hahaha...yeah, that's funny. I bet there is a piece missing. Did you buzz anyone on your way over? Presidential motorcade or something? LOL
by
kat-missouri on June 24, 2007 11:01 AM
Well, if it makes you feel better we did the same thing to Air Force security outside of Ali Al Salem air base a couple years ago. We were taking a convoy out and noticed an SUV up on a hill observing, so we sent a couple of gun trucks up to check them out. Nobody told us they were doing perimeter patrols in SUVs. We did get their attention. Oh, and Army MP's are way more armed that Air Force MPs....
by
Pogue on June 24, 2007 11:05 AM
Must resist snark...
There.
Good helk. What I don't unnerstand is after you go through all the rigmarole of filing a flight plan and confirming your Permitted Arrival to the Base Of Bliss, that it happened anyway.
And yeah, I woulda been cautious too.
You didn't land on them anyway?
[Nope. They were still locked and loaded. I just fixed them in place with my withering gaze...]
by Cricket on June 25, 2007 1:35 AM
Trying valiently to hold in my snickers. The OTHER former zoomie in this office is out on maternity leave and there's nobody to share the joke with!
[Fine thing. I nearly get turned into a walking flour sifter and all the chicks think it's a hoot. *sniffle*]
by Karla (threadbndr) on June 25, 2007 4:08 PM
There, there SugarButtons! I wouldn't like it if you turned into a flour sifter...not at all!
Those meanies! Picking on a harmless Scrupl' Whisperer like our BillT! The NERVE.
OTOH, had you given me the withering gaze, I might been trying hard not to giggle.
by Cricket on June 26, 2007 1:40 AM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
by
CW4BillT
on
Jun 24, 2007
June 14, 2007
TINS! Smoke Gets In Your Eyes...
Well, since John started recycling my war stories under the "everything old is new again" premise, here's an old one that's new -- it never appeared in Flightfax because real life intruded before it got published.
* * * * * * * * * * *
Sometimes I think that every Army aviator old enough to remember reciprocating engines has a little tale about an emergency procedure that didn’t quite address the problem or had an emergency for which there was no written procedure. I met CW5 Roger W [those who know, know] (Flightfax, July 1998, “Crew Commo: UH-1 lesson learned”) last year and got the soup-to-nuts version of his own “crew-modified” emergency procedure--care to guess what happened to me about a month later?
It was a perfect night for honing NVG skills in the AH-1F--nice and dark, with just a hint of urban haze. It wasn’t quite so perfect for conducting NVG Refresher Training, though--which is what I was doing. At about 800 feet on climbout from our helipad, the Master Caution, Alternator and Rectifier lights decided that I had been heretofore underworked and cheerily made their presence known. “Aha--this takes care of Task 1068!” [note: Task 1068: Describe or Perform Emergency Procedure] I thought. My backseater (after a subtle hint or two) correctly identified the problem and performed the appropriate emergency procedure--alternator switch OFF, then RESET, then ON. (No big deal, unless the alternator doesn’t come back on line; in that event, it’s a “Land ASAP” situation due to the alternator’s location--it’s mounted on the transmission main case, and a dead alternator will produce a goodly number of unpleasant things, ranging from FOD’ed tranny gears to an in-flight fire.)
You’re absolutely correct! Not only did the alternator not reset, but white smoke (definitely not NVG-compatible) and a smell like fried socks decided to join the party immediately after I made a diving 180 to return to the helipad. The haze inside was rapidly compounding the haze outside and I had a fleeting thought about inventing the recovery procedure for inadvertent interior IMC...
By this time, Flight Ops had exercised the Crash Plan and the race to terra firma was nip-and-tuck between a smoking Cobra and the CFR foam truck. We won, but not by much (that truck is fast!). The seal on the alternator quill had blown, so hot oil had been spraying into a hot electrical component, and an armament bus had toasted itself in the tailboom electrical compartment--lots of smoke and stink, but no fire, as we (a fireman, a mechanic and yours truly) discovered after I popped out of the cockpit and scrambled to open the transmission cowl (yeah, I peeked first--just in case) while my backseater shut the aircraft down.
“Well, jeepers, Tuttle--you could’ve saved yourself considerable emotional turmoil merely by following the emergency procedure for cockpit smoke and fume elimination,” you observe.
Well, sir-or-ma’am, just what is the AH-1 Dash Ten procedure for that particular situation?
“‘Vents--open,’ of course,” you reply.
Correct, again! Just one teensy problem with that--and our mechanics are still scratching their heads over it--because, in complete violation of all the laws of physics, the smoke and fumes were entering the cockpit through the vents...
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
"in violation of the laws of physics"
Maybe you were inhaling just a Leetle too much there, Bill!
Just sayin.
by
Barb on June 14, 2007 12:38 PM
That's not such a stretch, Brab - helicopters are violations of the laws of physics.
by
John of Argghhh! on June 14, 2007 12:56 PM
So are bumblebees, John.
by
HomefrontSix on June 14, 2007 1:58 PM
You simply reinforce my point, HFS!
by
John of Argghhh! on June 14, 2007 2:01 PM
Ah, but aircraft are designed by engineers, not physicists. The latter think about the Universe as they imagine it to be, the former have to deal with the Universe as it actually is, using messy approximations and empirical equations, sometimes with large fudge factors.
Physicists, I think, sometimes forget that the Lord has a sense of humor. Engineers know that He does have one, and a low and nasty one it is.
by
Justthisguy on June 14, 2007 3:14 PM
The alternator's mounted on the right side of the tranny, slightly aft of the mast. Intake for the vents is located about six feet forward on the fuselage, just behind where the pilot's right arm would rest if the Cobra was a convertible.
Ever known smoke to travel *against* a ninety mile-per-hour wind?
by
BillT on June 15, 2007 7:13 AM
Bill, the Lord was obviously exercising his sense of humor, and playing with your head.
And torturing Carborundum.
by
Justthisguy on June 16, 2007 6:15 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
by
CW4BillT
on
Jun 14, 2007
June 12, 2007
TINS*! There I was...
[Since Bill is about to re-enter the cockpit, it seems a good time to republish this bit of his - which will make some of the Denizen's comments on Bill's announcement yesterday take on a clarity for the new readers among us. -the Armorer]
Military aviation is an unforgiving vocation -- it's just as easy to get killed flying the friendly skies as it is flying the hostile ones. The following tale was originally published in Flightfax, Army Aviation's safety 'zine, in September 1997. I've added some short notes for clarification purposes, since we don't have a whole slew of former AH-1F pilots dropping in to visit. Most of it will be in Flash Traffic/Extended Entry, 'cuz John'll get his trousers torqued if I blow the rest of the site out the bottom of your monitor.
The entire flight lasted less than ten minutes. For those of you who need instant gratification, we lived.
There I was...in the front seat of a Cobra with a number-one hydraulic system failure, halfway down a 4800-foot runway, doing 50 knots about three inches above the pavement. Just the normal emergency procedure for this particular situation, with one pesky little difference -- we were flying sideways.
Gee -- glad you asked...
Flash Traffic (extended entry) Follows �
Gary and I were going out to fly some SP [Standardization Instructor Pilot] in the back seat vs. IE [Instrument Flight Examiner] in the front seat training (for me) and a few PARs [Precision Approach, Radar] (for him) -- a mutual beat-each-other-up to keep us honest. We'd flown together for about twenty years and our crew briefing usually consisted of, "We're going out for a Standardization (or Instrument) Evaluation Ride. You know the maneuvers we'll be doing -- got any questions?" "Nope." "You?" "Nope." "Okay -- let's go do it!" This briefing, though, was a little different, because Gary was now the Honor Graduate of our Flight Facility's second Aircrew Coordination Course [civil equivalent is called Cockpit Resource Management] -- only my extreme modesty prevents me from revealing that I had been his trainer. After a by-the-book crew briefing, he added, "Let's prebrief two specific emergencies; first, an engine failure at altitude and second, a dual-system hydraulic failure." After he detailed each pilot's responsibilities for each emergency (again, by the book), he said, "If we do get a failure, I'll fly because I've got that good ol' three-to-one mechanical advantage in the back seat." I said, "Sounds good -- and if you don't ask for the emergency collective hydraulic pump when we're a mile out on final, I'll announce and then turn it on." "Okay -- let's go do it!"
To make a short story even shorter, we were five minutes into our flight when a noise like a blender full of gravel caused both of us to shrink a little further down into our armored seats. I've long-since forgotten the RPM of a cavitating hydraulic pump, but it's a figure only Carl Sagan would comprehend. Two seconds later, the amok blender was joined by its friends, Messrs. Master Caution and #1 HYD PRESS lights. [Note: hydraulic fluid lubricates the pumps, and when a pump loses lubrication, it very shortly thereafter undergoes what the engineers laughingly describe as "catastrophic failure of structural integrity," i.e., it explodes. It's also located right behind the pilot's head. A number-one system hydraulic failure in an AH-1F means that your antitorque pedals are now about as movable as an I-beam. Which means that you have a problem keeping the pointy end in the direction you're flying. Which is not a Good Thing.]
As briefed, Gary continued to fly while I read off the checklist. As briefed, he turned toward a suitable area for a 'run-on landing at a speed of 50 KIAS or higher' -- which just happened to be home-station. [Note: there is a cheery blurb in the Emergency Procedures of the operator's manual which states that, as the airspeed decreases to 40 knots, the aircraft becomes uncontrollable and control inputs are futile.] As briefed, I called Tower, declared an emergency and told the controller we'd be coming in for a run-on landing to the duty runway. Suddenly, the grinding noise stopped and Gary said that he had normal pedal control back. While we mulled over this new development, the pump began to cavitate intermittently for several seconds. Aha! We were losing fluid, but we hadn't lost all our fluid; the pump was intermittently operational -- bear that in mind for later. A few seconds later, the pump resumed its annoying cavitation and (again, as briefed) I provided some additional pressure to the appropriate pedal whenever Gary called for an assist in maintaining heading. We then performed our by-the-book before-landing check -- as briefed.
Cut to final approach (and yes, I had announced, "We're at one mile. Emergency collective hydraulic pump coming on," and Gary had acknowledged -- as briefed). "We've got a slight crosswind, Bill -- help me out with some left pedal to straighten out the nose." "Okay, left pedal coming in " geez, that's stiff -- nose is straight down the centerline. Approach angle's good, airspeed's at sixty and before-landing check's still valid. Hold everything until we hit and I think we'll walk away from it, Gar." We touched down at sixty knots in an impressive display of sparks, smoke and textbook Aircrew Coordination. As we slid through fifty knots, we came to the intersecting runway, which has a slight crown. It launched us upward a few inches and we became airborne again -- just as the hydraulic pump stopped cavitating!
Now go back to There I was and reread the rest of the paragraph. It's okay -- I'll wait...
When the pump grabbed the last few ounces of fluid, several things happened simultaneously: the nose snapped left ninety degrees, we rolled right about ten degrees, Gary uttered a scatalogical expletive, our airspeed decreased rapidly (due to the 'barn door' effect), we began sinking back to the runway -- and the pump resumed its manic cavitation. Ooops -- we hadn't briefed this...
I had a nanosecond visual of each of our three options for dying --
1. either the rotor blades would hit the runway, fling us vertical and five tons of metal and jet fuel would come down on top of us, or
2. the skid would hit and become a pivot, flipping the canopy into the pavement and we'd get abraded from the top of our helmets down to our shoulders, or
3. the stub wing would hit the runway, crush the fuselage and rupture the fuel cell, turning us into a large, open air barbecue.
-- not a one of 'em appealed to me.
My Aviation Career Objective was now reduced to living through the next three seconds and appeared to be somewhat in jeopardy.
I then did something we *hadn't* briefed; I planted both size-twelves on the right pedal and shoved -- just as Gary hollered, "Right pedal!" The nose s-l-o-w-l-y reoriented right, the right skid-heel grabbed the runway -- followed rapidly by the rest of the right skid -- and we wobbled down the runway, teetering on one skid for several amusing seconds until the left skid decided to get with the program, too. We ground to a halt right next to the crash/rescue folks, who gave us a standing ovation for not plowing into them.
We performed a normal shutdown, but it took me three eternities to get two feet unstuck from an area that Bell had designed to accommodate one; my legs deciding to lock in the straight-from-the-hips position didn't help the situation. One of the asbestos-suiters came over and said that Ops had told them we'd probably "need this" and handed Gary a roll of Charmin. Glad somebody thought it was funny.
Eighteen months later (almost to the day), after regaling a relatively new Pilot-in-Command with the story, we were on short final to our weed patch and
Guess.What.Happened?
Heh. "Twitchy Bill," who told you, John?
� Secure this line!
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Bill - I've got some good news and some bad news.
1. Good news - you write aviation crash/problem stories pretty well.
2. Bad news. They're first person.
3. Good News. You get published a lot.
4. Bad News. In FlightFax, in First Person Stories.
I'm somewhat nervous about getting into any aircraft in which you have a front seat...
Of course, for all I know the only difference between you, Dusty, and Neffi is - they don't write much...
by
John of Argghhh! on March 21, 2005 12:26 PM
Look on the bright side--you won't be bored...
by cw4billt on March 21, 2005 12:28 PM
Yeah, but Beth would get grumpy about the underwear situation...
by
John of Argghhh!!! on March 21, 2005 12:32 PM
Not a problem.
Quite the reverse, in fact.
You'd probably have to go to an ER to get the seat removed...
by cw4billt on March 21, 2005 12:35 PM
I'm not writing...but I am listening...Have nothing profound to say right now but when I do I'll mash the mic button.
by
Instapilot on March 21, 2005 12:41 PM
...and I had an entertaining 2 minutes myself Saturday, culminating in a near-perfect touchdown after a 'sideways' approach on final, courtesy a very strong gust-front. But can't touch Chief for pucker factor this time...
by Neffi on March 21, 2005 12:46 PM
Wow, Bill! I'm glad you're here to tell the tales - we'll have to renegotiate the next series of virtual helo lessons ;-)
by
Barb on March 21, 2005 12:47 PM
Hmf. No sense of adventure.
>>hzz. has sense of common, though.
[*whap*] YIPE!
by cw4billt on March 21, 2005 1:11 PM
Hey - I have a sense of adventure. I just want to survive the lessons ;-)
by
Barb on March 21, 2005 2:23 PM
But not knowing until it's over is part of the
[*gaaak--hork*]
thrill.
by cw4billt on March 21, 2005 2:58 PM
Dusty - no snark intended, I was just referring to tales of horror from the cockpit.
Bill has been submitting these to FlightFax for years... always in the First Person, which is some cause for concern, what with he's flying US Gubbermint proppity 'n all!
by
John of Argghhh!!! on March 21, 2005 3:02 PM
O' course they were first person. Think I'd subject some other poor schnook to all that adrenaline overdose?
by cw4billt on March 21, 2005 3:24 PM
Ah, yes, why I prefer airplanes to hellafloppers! An airplane is a structure, a 'flopper is a *machine*. All of the hubschrauber's itty bitty linkages and spinning things have to work, just for it to fly at all!
That said, I tend to agree with the fellow who said that a well-designed, well-made, well-maintained, well-flown helicopter is the safest thing in the air.
That's a kinda long chain of conditions, though.
by Justthisguy on March 21, 2005 3:36 PM
I hear tell of a crucial component of a helicopter known as the "Jesus bolt". 'Cause when you lose it ...
by Bad Cat Robot on March 21, 2005 3:53 PM
No, I believe that's called the "Jesus *Nut*".
Suspended in the air by one nut...
Heck, *two* would be pretty bad...
by Justthisguy on March 21, 2005 4:08 PM
In Bill's defense - he did *survive* all his incidents.
Which, while a mandatory requirement for recounting his adventures, is not necessary to experience them!
By the way, chopper question for anyone to answer - why do the model numbers go from the AH-1 (cobra) to AH-64 (Apache)? What happened to the intervening 62 models? Or is Bill the explanation?
by UtahMan on March 21, 2005 4:09 PM
Ummmm--I was exonerated on
[*peering over shoulder*]
all sixty-two counts.
Heh. Long story.
by cw4billt on March 21, 2005 4:14 PM
Mast Bump Story! I wanna mast-bump story! (And, uh, did you live?)
by Justthisguy on March 21, 2005 4:23 PM
UtahMan
Probably was influenced by the Army tank numbers advancing, in a logical sequence, from M-60 to MBT-70 to M-1. I blame Neffi as a root cause.
Cheers
JMH
by J.M. Heinrichs on March 21, 2005 4:33 PM
Think manufacturers. Think manufacturers' product numbers.
Lockheed AH-56 (Cheyenne).
Sikorsky S-67 (Blackhawk, as distinct from the UH-60 Black Hawk). Woulda been the AH-67, except the AH-56 beat it out, then the AH-56 folded and was replaced by the AH-64.
Heh. Scout/Observation designations are even more fun.
by cw4billt on March 21, 2005 5:05 PM
Jtg - If I'd had an in-flight mast-bump, nobody would ever have heard of me except as a statistic. And yer right about the "Jesus nut."
by cw4billt on March 21, 2005 5:08 PM
Ah, that clears it up. Clear as mud. Thanks anyway, though.
Back to the story - great one. I like the look of the Cobras - but I think I like being able to admire them from here, safe on the ground.
by UtahMan on March 21, 2005 5:18 PM
Oh, the sad thing is, I like flying in 'em. Always have.
And I'll even get in one Bill's flying.
Sigh.
I'm stupid that way.
Hell, Heaven would be the cargo seat of an A-10 trainer - with Dusty at the stick, 'rolling in'.
Hell, I'll even go scout Minuteman silos with Neffi.
by
John of Argghhh! on March 21, 2005 5:41 PM
Woops. Posted too fast, and now I see Bill's comment. Manufacturer numbers - OK, that makes (more) sense.
Still like the look of the old Cobras, especially with the toothy mouth. I thought that was a thing of the past, but I remember seeing a couple of Apaches with calvary swords and alligator mouths on them during Operation Iraqi Freedom (7th Cav, I think). That just a Calvary thing?
by UtahMan on March 21, 2005 5:47 PM
I figure that Bill's proven his ability to find a way to survive anything! I'd love a ride in a helo he's flying ;-) Then again - what're the odds of that happening, eh?
:-(
by
Barb on March 21, 2005 5:47 PM
Umm, when I wrote "Did you live?" I was referring to the most ancient, most traditional kind of war story, in which the last