Jeremiah Wright
Much of his radical theology disgusts me, and I have a very strong intellectual disagreement with it. However, growing up a pastor's kid in a religion well-represented among both white and black communities (and more integrated than most), I understand a bit about where he's coming from--politics tends to be more overtly a part of black churches and theology than white, and there is more confidence in calling a spade a spade in the black religious tradition (church being a refuge from white control and interference going back to even the slavery days). But Jeremiah Wright is far beyond the tradition of black churches railing against injustice and pulling together to address or mitigate that injustice as much as possible.
While listening to the extended excerpts Hugh Hewitt played last week, I sat with my mouth hanging open. Literally. I had tried so hard to "understand," to consider that maybe Wright tended to get carried away to hyperbole with his emotionalism, that perhaps he spoke more metaphorically as is often the case in black churches. But there it was, staring me in the face.
I had two reactions after I was done: 1) I now "get" the Obamas. Michelle's speeches, her tone, her body language... the awkwardness of having said she'd never been proud of her country until her husband ran for president... I had never been able to form a coherent vision of her. Listening to Wright's sermons was like a final piece of the puzzle that made the picture pull into focus. And even moreso, I understood the cult of personality that Barak cultivated in his campaign. Whether she and Barak Obama believed as Wright does when they joined the church, twenty years of hearing things like I did as I listened cannot help but shape a person's intellect and attitude. 2) I need a shower; I felt like I'd had the worst kind of sludge poured over me for the last hour.
Mere transcripts do not do justice to the mood of Wright's diatribes against this country and people who don't look like him or believe like him. I was stunned and appalled. So much rage, so much carefully-considered and clearly-laid-out venom for the country he once served as a Marine and which has enabled him to retire in wealth to a gated community. Those short excerpts we heard were not moments of overwhelming emotion or ill-considered metaphors/similes/parallels. They were snippets in carefully-constructed and consciously-delivered sermons of rage, hatred, uber-left-wing politics, and a desire for the destruction of this country and anybody who didn't agree with him.
In response, I at first felt anger. But that quickly gave way to pity, and finally a sense of filthiness for continuing to listen... much as one feels if looking too closely at the car wreck as one drives by. It is appalling, and even moreso when you subsequently listen to the mild-mannered and "oh-so-reasonable" man Bill Moyers interviewed last week. I was forcibly reminded of the wolf in sheep's clothing, but I don't think I've ever seen the two sides so starkly drawn as they are in Reverend Wright.
Over at Powerline, John Hinderaker comes close to summing up my opinion on this, though perhaps with a bit more resentment/offense than I had (I mostly feel pity for someone so obviously consumed with rage and the more destructive emotions of this life):
I had a busy weekend, and missed it when Hugh Hewitt posted extensive transcripts of the sermons of Jeremiah Wright on Friday evening. The transcripts are devastating to Wright. He is a despicable human being, and the fact that has been ordained, apparently, is a disgrace. Wright has been claiming that he was quoted out of context, and Barack Obama has suggested that Americans would view Wright differently if they heard his whole sermons instead of a few sound bites. In fact, the context makes it worse, and the whole sermons are outrageous. It turns out that "God damn America" understates the baroque hatefulness of Wright's theology.
Still unexplained is what Wright's political screeds have to do with Christianity. I don't know anyone who would sit still for a minister who persistently abused the pulpit to preach hate instead of the Gospel. As a Christian, I am outraged that "Reverend" Wright has hijacked my faith to preach hate and to sow falsehood. How Barack Obama could have participated in this charade for twenty years, and then held himself out as someone fit to lead this nation, is inexplicable.
Let the charges of racism begin...
[Note: if you are unfamiliar with the original definition of baroque (the one NOT referring to classical music), look it up. Hinderocker obviously chose his words very carefully here.]
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I have no problem with the good Reverend! I watched some parts on TV, yesterday and today and some snippets on YouTube. I think he's hilarious! Plus it's interesting to see him on Bill Moyers as opposed to the NAACP sermon (come on, it was a sermon!). The Press Club appearance was good theater.
But then again I am completely self-centered and focus only on how this benefits my Bad Boyfriend.
by
Maggie on April 28, 2008 10:38 AM
Maggie,
*snort*
by
FbL on April 28, 2008 11:52 AM
I never thought I'd be thankful for Billary. If she folded after the initial Barrack tidal wave, we wouldn't have had the pleasure of all the little missteps and gaffs produced by all those Dems, not least of which is Barack himself. Maggie's heart throb actually has a legitimate chance. He may not fit all my ideas for a President but he beats the hell out of the competition.
This is sure getting old though. Can't we just vote now and get it over with? Then Fox News can go back to covering Peterson or Aruba or other some such or whether Victoria Secret is changing their product line. For that I'll tune in.
by Fishmugger on April 28, 2008 12:37 PM
This is really getting wild. The implications are not good. As pointed out somewhere (I can't remember where I read it), the ridiculous things Wright said about racial "differences" in his speech to the NAACP this weekend will be used by other racists... and they won't always be black, but they'll have cover to air their anti-black racism using Wright's own words. Ugly, ugly.
by
FbL on April 28, 2008 1:01 PM
To true Fbl.
All those antics professed by so many unfortunates over the years are now given legitamacy by Rev Wrights ill informing speach. I felt good that my country matured enough to actually have an African-American candidate for the highest office. Unfortunately he's a liberal jerk. If Steele of Maryland had the nomination on the Reps side, I would deffinately vote for him.
by Fishmugger on April 28, 2008 2:00 PM
Wright is only unique due to his being the pastor of a front running Presidential candidate. He is not alone, he is just recognised. I know many Christian preacher's say things which the congregation resonates with and yet are utterly vile.
While this is probably doing damage to Obama it's likely to be empowering Wright granting him contacts, recognition and exposure which may mean Wright will outlive his church member in political influence.
by
Argent on April 29, 2008 7:43 AM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
Attacking Bellavia: Comparing Heroes Now "Racist"
[Kat]
Well, it was bound to happen. Hot Air reports that some guy named Sam Stein over at the Huffington Post is implying that Bellavia, in comparing Tiger Woods as a hero for children to Sen. John McCain's heroism in withstanding five years of imprisonment and torture in Hotel Hanoi is somehow making a subtle racist comment. Of course, the commenters over at the HuffPo (loser central) went crazy about the terrible McCain Supporting Racist.
Some other ..person... at some place called Hotline also posts a similar comment. Of course, they are, as Hot Air notes, "treading lightly" on the subject by merely suggesting that, in today's political atmosphere, maybe its not a good idea to ever mention the name of a person of a different race or ethnicity in comparison to a person that isn't because any idiot can decide to construe it, in the name of politics, as racism.
I cannot even say how incensed I am over even the implication that Bellavia's comments were racist. At first, I thought that it was so ignorant it was not worth a reply, but I read the foolish comments in the posts, attempted to post a reply with refuting information and then realized I was unable to do so. Thus, I am posting here.
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I am also incensed over the fact that idiotic conflation of such non-events to real racism, cheapens and degrades the continuing struggle against real racism in this nation. These two, Stein and the Hotline (not Hot Air) character, along with several commenters, make reference to Obama's speech on racism being "timely" in reference to this alleged racism. In fact, their comments did more to damage any possible good or truth that Obama's speech might have done.
Having attended the Vets For Freedom event in Kansas City, heard Bellavia's speech about real heroes vs. the paper heroes America puts on pedestals, read his book honoring the men he fought with (of all ethnicities and races) and listened to many other speeches by these men and women, the idea that Bellavia was making a racist remark or could be construed to do so is preposterous beyond belief.
Bellavia's speech was slightly abbreviated in order to move the event along and introduce McCain. In this event, he mentioned that Tiger Woods would not be the "hero" that he taught his children to look up to. He would teach them to look up to men like McCain. He introduced McCain as "the real 'Audacity of Hope'".
Bellavia has given a similar speech all along the Vets for Freedom tour. In Kansas City, his speech regarding the same theme, included noting various athletes and Hollywood stars from Tiger Woods to Tom Cruise, among several, that people call "heroes" when, in fact, he served with real heroes and was on tour with some real heroes. It is a theme that has been repeated many times among those who have served, their families and those who support them as on this blog: America has lost its way when choosing its "heroes" and it shows in our continued selfishness, our unwillingness to sacrifice in a greater cause and our total absorption with all things "me".
Sam Stein has very likely never read Bellavia's book, House to House. While it is a book about war, it is not a book about hate. It is a book about love for the brothers that Bellavia served and bled with in the Battle for Fallujah. It is about the love and honor that he feels for those who he served, who died in that battle and later. he never mentions the race, color or ethnicity of these men, though he calls them by name and their names sometimes gives their heritage away along with several pictures of his unit included in the book. They include black, white, Hispanic, Asian and many other nationalities and ethnicities. These men were not colors or races to Bellavia, but brothers. He calls them "heroes" and they are more so than a Woods, Obama, Clinton, Cruise, Spears or any other whom the shallow would deem "heroes" for their alleged "struggles" to overcome things that have little to do with sacrificing all for another.
Bellavia's heroes are men like 1Lt Edward Iwan, Japanese-American, who led Bellavia's platoon and who died in Fallujah November 12, 2004 having taken over the gunner's position in a Bradely fighting vehicle, surrounded by insurgents on every side firing AK-47s, sniper rifles, heavy machine guns and RPGs. Iwan was cut down by just such an RPG. Bellavia continuously referred to Iwan as a great leader who took care of his men to the end.
At the end of his book, Bellavia lists the 41 men from his unit who gave the ultimate sacrifice in order of the date of their death. They are a true representation of America's "melting pot" with names like "Khan", "Kennedy", "Eckhart", "Martinez" and many more. Bellavia wants people to remember these men and honor their sacrifice.
Stein and the other fellow, posted only a small snippet of the actual event in order to make this implications. I note that he did not bother to post any other video or pictures from the event that clearly shows the many men and women of many races and ethnicities that were part of the "Vets on the Hill" event. These men and women had served in the military as Bellavia had and were there for the same reason: to insure that those who had fought, were fighting and those who had sacrificed, had their voices heard. They want to insure, as LTC Steve Russell (ret) has said, that their sacrifices were not simply "remembered" by names chiseled on a black stone wall, but would be "honored" by a lasting memorial of freedom and democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Those attending, those of the many races, ethnicities and genders, knew exactly what Bellavia was speaking of when he compared a "hero" for children like Tiger Woods to a real hero who had sacrificed much for his nation like McCain and the many who had served in the past and present. Tiger, Bellavia has previously noted, is a fine man who has made much of his talents and often gives much back to communities like free golf clinics for the young and underprivileged, charitable events and various foundations. He is an excellent example of how to be a self made man who knows how to give back in recognition of the advantages he had been given.
But, if you are going to tell your children about "heroes", "sacrifice" and "love of country" who are you going to tell them about?
Try Mike Mansoor, Navy Seal, Medal of Honor recipient, who have his all for his country and for the men he served with when he jumped on a grenade.
Obama was not completely wrong. There is racism in this country, though not institutionalized and rarely raising its head publicly. I know what racism looks like. I had an unpleasant and unfortunate experience last week when someone made a comment that was neither ambiguous, subtle nor misconstrued, though it was under their breath and in the company of people they thought were "like minded" for some unknown reason. That person now knows it is unacceptable and intolerable, not only by me, but those in our group.
This egregious and scurrilous attack on Bellavia, however, makes me very upset. What good has Sam Stein done to equate, no, lower the issue of real racism to comparison with this non-event? I'll tell you, he has done no good. In fact, the construing of these comments to "racism" actually provides people cover when confronted with real, subtle and unsubtle, racism. He has done nothing, but provided a place for every half-wit with a political ax to grind, who see our soldiers as nothing but jack booted oppressors, and dislikes McCain, the Iraq war, and various other angst and neurosis, a place to vent their ugliness and idiocy.
Sam Stein owes Bellavia an apology, in public (since he made it that way).
Sam Stein, tear down that post.
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The term *hero* has been bandied about so much over the past couple of decades that it's lost much of its original connotation, just as the term *racist* has been watered-down by overuse.
I don't walk through certain sections of Trenton because some of the inhabitants have spread the word that any white face appearing on their turf will be shot. I have *friends* in that neighborhood, but I won't visit them -- not because I'm a prejudiced SOB, but because it would be suicide for me to do it. My friends don't want me to visit because their homes would get firebombed -- the gang-bangers figure any black family receiving white visitors are informants.
But by Stein's definition, I'm a racist.
Wotta moron...
by
BillT on April 9, 2008 2:46 AM
Heh. And now we're circular... since the Hot Air post linked our post with the citation for Bellavia's MoH nomination...
by
John of Argghhh! on April 9, 2008 6:56 AM
And now we're circular...
Only some of us.
I'm *linear*...
by
BillT on April 9, 2008 7:06 AM
Where did the "Chickenhawk" meme go?
Now that the Dems don't have a faux military hero as their nominee, they're embarking on a strategy to trivialize and debase real military heroes like McCain and Bellavia, either by insinuating that they're racists, like the yahoos in kat's post, or like Jay Rockefeller in his recent comments that McCain just dropped laser guided bombs from 30,000 feet without considering the human toll of the destruction below.
by fdcol63 on April 9, 2008 7:23 AM
Huffington Post is just a bunch of zealous morons, especially Mrs Huffington herself. Sometimes I just want to stuff my pointy highheel shoe right up their A$$, they would be burping leather for a month.
Racist, yea say "boo" and they think you are stating a racist quote. They are the ones who are racist, just like Sharpton. Idiots....
by Rita on April 9, 2008 7:32 AM
Heh. Someone whizzed in Rita's Wheaties® this morning!
by
John of Argghhh! on April 9, 2008 7:50 AM
Hero - A person noted for feats of courage or nobility of purpose, especially one who has risked or sacrificed his or her life.
Athlete - A person possessing the natural or acquired traits, such as strength, agility, and endurance, that are necessary for physical exercise or sports, especially those performed in competitive contexts. Professional Athlete - same as above - except for MONEY.
My achin' butt!! Just sayin'. ML
by
Mike Lehnherr on April 9, 2008 8:38 AM
I think they have been wizzing in my Wheaties for some time now :)
I just cannot stand when those people dripple lies and attack a person who has served his country with honor and distinction. We just need to stand up and fight that kind of rhetoric; and with pointy highheel shoes just for an extra jolt :).....
by Rita on April 9, 2008 10:58 AM
Since when did comparing sports heroes to war heroes become an issue of race? What a load of crap.
I'm waiting for Tiger to come out and announce that it's a load of crap too, as he's done in the past when the race card has been forced into play. He recognizes a true racial slur versus a comparison of hero status.
Crap, I tell ya. Crap.
by AFSister on April 9, 2008 11:17 AM
While I think the last thing that David Bellavia is, is a racist. The "Tiger" thing wasn't well thought out. don't get me wrong, no one is on target all the time.
One of Huffington's commenters said that if it wasn't meant to be an insult, he didn't get the point. That's where I find myself in this. Sure John McCain should be admired for his service (no one needs to tell Princess Crabby that....). But, to be frank, there is nothing wrong with young people admiring Tiger Woods. He's naturally talented, he works hard & has achieved his successes legitimately.
John McCain doesn't need us to tear down other people to build him up.
by
Maggie on April 9, 2008 2:14 PM
"Dripple" - a new word for me.
I like it.
by
John of Argghhh! on April 9, 2008 2:38 PM
I'm quadrilateral, not even trapezoidal. No two sides of me are parallel.
by
Justthisguy on April 9, 2008 2:41 PM
It wasn't about "McCain" v. "Woods", it was "war hero" v. "athlete", "sacrifice of mind, body and life" v. "sacrifice of free time to practice".
Now, you're right, Woods is a good example of perseverance, goal setting and achievement with the extra of giving back to the community. That's a nice example for kids to look up to. But, I wouldn't call him a "hero" and if I was trying to inspire kids about doing the right thing or sacrificing something for a greater cause, it would be McCain or the men with Bellavia I would point to, not Tiger.
by kat-missouri on April 9, 2008 3:08 PM
kat's kernel:
Hero vs Example
by fdcol63 on April 9, 2008 7:35 PM
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Maybe they need to take lessons from the Navy
Houston Chronicle
November 2, 2007
Military Pressure To Recruit Is Strong
Some creative methods devised to achieve quotas
By Dane Schiller, Houston Chronicle
Passing out gimme caps, pounding sweltering Wal-Mart parking lots, even stuffing business cards into the pockets of new jeans still on the racks at stores, there is no doubt military recruiters get creative to carry out one of the national defense's most challenging missions: finding new enlistees.
"You had to do what you had to do," recalled Paul Johnson, who said that for three years he was a Navy recruiter in Alvin. "Did it result in stuff? I got a couple of calls."
Suckas!
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Hmmmm. I may have cause to regret giving a squid a login...
by
John of Argghhh! on November 2, 2007 9:27 AM
Come on John, thought you wanted some "jointness" around here...
by MR. T's Haircut on November 2, 2007 11:26 AM
Yeah, but on my terms. All rounds are outgoing, not incoming!
by
John of Argghhh! on November 2, 2007 11:45 AM
hehehe,
I play fair. I think Sam is a hottie!
by MR. T's Haircut on November 2, 2007 11:55 AM
Newbies!
I did a recruiting presentation to a kindergarden class once, (although we weren't looking for FSCC members). Then crossed the hall to visit a freshmen class of 6-year-olds.
Cheers
by J.M. Heinrichs on November 2, 2007 1:13 PM
I just wanted you great military folks to know that I knew Sheldon Rutherford. He was my best friend here in Denver, CO. Sheldon was well known for selling hotdogs throughout our city. He was a great friend, a funny man and always spoke highly of the men and women he served with throughout his military and law enforcement career. Sheldon was helping another when he suddenly felt discomfort in his chest. He laid down to rest and G-d reached down and took him. Many still miss him very much and I just wanted you all to know what a great friend Sheldon was to us all and especially me. Sheldon built hundreds of military aircraft models, he had every Playboy ever published and was loved by more women than anyone can imagine. May He Rest In Peace...
by Doug on November 5, 2007 1:01 AM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
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