June 11, 2008
Shockingly, Gun Owners Are People, Too
[Kat]
Since we're a military AND gun blog, I thought I'd actually post a little something about guns. Particularly, since that nasty four letter word *work* keeps getting in the way of finishing up Pvt Benson's story (amongst other issues), I'm going to go cheap. Hat tip Instapundit
Have you heard this joke? A professor goes to the NRA headquarters...
PROFESSOR MEETS GUN: Part Three
Quiet, corporate, neat and friendly, full of ordinary Americans of all races, the NRA is masculine in feel but has plenty of women about. Cameras are everywhere, of course, and some of the staff eye me a little warily, but basically there’s an open feel to the place. It’s not creepy.
It's not creepy. Bwaahahahahaaha.
Really, I admire her for going outside of her comfort zone. Seriously, though, you should read the other lead up posts to get the real feel for this situation.
Professor Meets Gun
Professor Meets Gun: Part II
Just to wash that out of your mind and go to the other end of the spectrum, the second story I've seen this week about openly carrying a gun.
Then one evening he stumbled across a site that urged gun owners to do something revolutionary: Carry your gun openly for the world to see as you go about your business.
In many states there's no law against that.
Jensen thought about it and decided to give it a try. A couple of days later, his gun was visible, dangling from a black holster strapped around his hip as he walked into a Costco. His heart raced as he ordered a Polish dog at the counter. No one called the police. No one stopped him.
Though, later, he was lectured by someone at a restaurant for exposing children to the horrors of fully taking advantage of the Second Amendment. Still, the "people with guns are crazy"...
"I love this," he said. "I want people to be aware that crazy people are not the only ones with guns. Normal people carry them."
As I noted yesterday, violent crimes are down.
And, now for the real killer:
FDA Expands Tomato Warning Nationwide
That's right. Tomatoes are so dangerous, you can't find them anywhere except at a little huckster stand on the side of the road here and there.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
As Castle Argghhh! LLC, is selling in the Leavenworth Farmer's Market (aka, little stand) who you calling huckster, kiddo?
by
John of Argghhh! on June 11, 2008 6:49 AM
Remember the good old days, when we just had to worry about salmonella in bags of spinach? LOL
by fdcol63 on June 11, 2008 7:16 AM
Take it from one who may have been taken down by the tomato salmonella deal.... you do NOT want to get this illness. My case can't be proved at this point, but judging by the way I've been feeling for nearly a week, and what I had to eat just prior to getting sick, I'm pretty sure I am a statistic. It's been almost a week, and I am still bothered by headaches and nausea from the dehydration.
by AFSister on June 11, 2008 11:45 AM
Well, huck, if the bushel fits.. ;)
by kat-missouri on June 11, 2008 2:19 PM
Now you're conflating how I treat my friends with SWWBO's business practices...
by
John of Argghhh! on June 11, 2008 3:30 PM
But all tomatoes should be washed before eating, officials advised.
Uhhhh -- just why would you *not* wash something -- other than ice cream -- before you ate it?
by
BillT on June 11, 2008 4:05 PM
Friends? Who said friends?
by kat-missouri on June 11, 2008 4:31 PM
I don't wash Kielbasa before cooking it. I just take it out of the plastic wrapper it comes in at the store, boil it, and then make a sandwich out of it. Why would I wash Kielbasa(which, next to cheetos, is the food of the gods)? I don't wash bread either. No wonder you're so thin, Chief.
I dunno, John, I think I got a fair deal out of when I visited. I got a tour, a dozen history lessons, and some basic instruction in marksmanship. That sounds about right for a trip to say, DC, for the same things. (oh, and on the marksmanship thing, you think I should try shooting lefty? Might speed things up.)
by ry on June 12, 2008 12:31 AM
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April 25, 2008
This being ANZAC day... a little something else for the Gunnies who visit.
Staying alive in the trenches. While helping the "other guy" fail in that activity. This was the source of much ingenuity, such as these Aussies in an outpost in the trenches at Gallipoli.

The Digger on the right is using a periscope to spot for the Digger standing on the left who is using a trench mount to remotely aim and fire his rifle.
The other two are killing time, thinking of home and wishing they were elsewhere - but they're ready... three bayonets-mounted rifles lean against the trench wall in the center.
The Castle Armory counts in its holdings a slightly more polished version of that trench mount. While my personal opinion is that this is probably a reproduction that includes original parts, construction of these mounts varied widely, and it's possible that this is a true original. But the Castle Exchequer *paid* as if it was a repro, and it is represented here as such.

Simple enough - strap your rifle into the frame, insert the periscope, load and cock the rifle, slide up over the parapet... and then fiddle the 'scope until you can properly see the sights. Wedge the scope to hold the sight picture... and start looking for targets.
Downside is that you do have to pull it down or crawl up a bit to reload, which means you usually have to refiddle the periscope.
I've not had a chance to shoot it in this configuration, not yet having found or built a suitable place where I feel I could conduct that experiment safely, without danger of a shot going high and off-property. I have had a chance to get exasperated by the periscope, however!
For those of an interest - a larger format version of the SMLE Trench Mount can be had by clicking here.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Nothing? Not even from the Usual Suspects®?
by
John of Argghhh! on April 26, 2008 10:07 AM
I think there was something I saw on the Web years ago, maybe here, about an American inventor who had made a similar gizmo.
It was much more finished-looking, of course, as behooved an applicant for a patent.
Actually, I don't think it was patentable then, because the idea would immediately occur to anyone in that situation.
These days, I dunno. I hear that somebody sneaked a patent for the Wheel and Axle past the incompetent slacker Patent Examiners we have, these days.
Did it on a bet, I believ
by
Justthisguy on April 26, 2008 5:56 PM
As an aside the title "Digger" orgionaly went to the Maori Pioneer Battalion (Te Hokowhitu A Tu) who dug the Great Sap and Outpost #1 (The Pa).
In France its was extended to the entitre division during the excavations at Arras and by association the Australians. Many considere this ironic as the Australians were considered to be somewhat reticent about picked up the spade. Their defences at Quins Post were considered untenable until Malones Wellingtons moved in and gave them the Malone treatment. Malone considered hinmself to be the landlord of Quins and stayed on when the Wellingtons were out of the line to ensure the tennants didn't make a mess of the carpet.
by Murray on April 27, 2008 7:06 PM
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September 7, 2007
This would look good on the ramparts...
A Saxon wall-gun, circa 1680. It's a volley gun, i.e., all barrels fired simultaneously.

For a closeup of the muzzles, click here. This sucker was rifled.
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John,
Very cool piece of history! Having used percussion lock weapons and posessing a working knowledge of the method of operation of the flint lock mechanism's principles of operation I still can't figure out how the flame was to travel to all the touch holes. Also, I wonder how you would know that one of the barrels did not fire and might go off due to a "hang fire" ?
by
Parrothead Jeff on September 7, 2007 8:32 AM
Jeff - there was a channel full of powder under the socket the barrels fit into.
And... you didn't.
Hence, they weren't all that popular, but they were really intended as one shot weapons to clear the top of the wall while reinforcements arrived.
by
John of Argghhh! on September 7, 2007 9:04 AM
I don't think I'd want to be anywhere on the wall when that was fired.
by
hdw on September 7, 2007 10:35 AM
It took a moment for me to realize that the name of the gun did NOT imply it was used to shoot at... well, you know.
by
Chuck Simmins on September 7, 2007 10:39 AM
The Sassenach, Chuck?
BTW - in response to a question on the post that was actually posed in meatworld... caliber of that monster is 13mm.
by
John of Argghhh! on September 7, 2007 1:19 PM
"This sucker was rifled"
Why? Wouldn't a punt gun work better for its intended purpose?
by guy on September 7, 2007 1:39 PM
Well, yes and no.
As for *why* it was rifled, I dunno, the designer didn't consult with me. I suppose you could have used it against artillery crews advancing in a siege.
As for a punt gun, that depends on the fortification you are defending. Since all the punt guns I've seen are essentially duckbills in that the barrels aren't parallel, you might prefer concentrated carnage alone the merlons vice spreading shot and potentially hitting your own troops.
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John of Argghhh! on September 7, 2007 1:53 PM
It would make sense to have rifled barrels so you could shoot down the length of the wall. Then any shot that didn't hit a someone coming over the wall would continue downrange more accurately and get some more invaders.
by
Ride Fast on September 7, 2007 4:20 PM
IIRC, there's a certain association with this site, and the KC area.
That being said, I thought I'd mention the J.M. Davis Arms & Historical Museum in Claremore OK.
http://www.state.ok.us/~jmdavis/arms.html
I went there several years back, and the collection of firearms is nothing short of staggering, IMO. Everything (IIRC) from matchlocks to Maw Deuce, bur just wandering around sent me into stimulous saturation, so I can't provide particulars by memory. Well worth the price of admission, IMO.
Claremore is also the home of the Will Rogers museum, FWIW. Another interesting place, but i have a taste for museums.
Feel free to contact me, if you'd like.
Regards,
Rusty the Bookman
by The Bookman on September 8, 2007 12:08 AM
IIRC, there's a certain association with this site, and the KC area.
That being said, I thought I'd mention the J.M. Davis Arms & Historical Museum in Claremore OK.
(That's about 4.5 hours from KC, give or take.)
http://www.state.ok.us/~jmdavis/arms.html
I went there several years back, and the collection of firearms is nothing short of staggering, IMO. Everything (IIRC) from matchlocks to Maw Deuce, bur just wandering around sent me into stimulous saturation, so I can't provide particulars by memory. Well worth the price of admission, IMO.
Claremore is also the home of the Will Rogers museum, FWIW. Another interesting place, but i have a taste for museums.
Feel free to contact me, if you'd like.
Regards,
Rusty the Bookman
by The Bookman on September 8, 2007 12:10 AM
Been to the JM Davis, Rusty, back when I was stationed at Fort Sill. They have a tank, too, and an interesting collection of hangman's knots.
Used ones.
by
John of Argghhh! on September 8, 2007 2:45 PM
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August 23, 2007
More reasons I can't go to Afstan.
Another picture from the bazaars, sent by Joe, the land-locked sailor.

From top to bottom - French Mle 1886 Lebel rifle, what I believe is a British Lee-Enfield Mark I* (vice a Lee-Metford), followed by a Snider conversion of the Tower 3-band Enfield musket, and a Martini-Henry carbine, that has seen some local decoration, or is in fact a "Khyber rifle" of local manufacture. Hard to tell without really giving the weapons a good look. The partial rifle, well, I haven't taken the time to see if I can figure out what it might be.
If you'd like a closer look so you can argue with me about something - click here. (It should work right the first time, this time, Wolfwalker)
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
It did. ;-)
by wolfwalker on August 23, 2007 8:29 AM
I think that's a Lee-Metford MkII*, judging by the sights. A look at the upper receiver would help, though...
Some rare bayonets have been coming out of the 'Stan, mostly socket-bladed Imperial German ersatz types but also Martini-Henry sword bayonets and the occasional Baker and Brunswick. Love to go cruise...
by Neffi on August 23, 2007 2:01 PM
Lookit the socket of the receiver and see if you think those are Metford markings.
Of course, if it's a Khyber, it could be all of that.
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John of Argghhh! on August 23, 2007 4:30 PM
Yesh, indeed- but IIRC the SMLE Mk1 has a band around the muzzle supporting the front sight. And also has a thumbring-screw at the rear sight for elevating same....
Dangit! Let's go check 'em out, eh?
by Neffi on August 23, 2007 9:14 PM
That would be the *charger-loading* Lee-Metford.
Based on what I *think* I see of the bayonet bar, and the socket - I'm still sticking with the Lee-Enfield.
Who's booking the flights?
by
John of Argghhh! on August 23, 2007 10:01 PM
And if wussie liberals had their way they would have us face a vicious rapists with a big bunch of pink wussietard flowers LIBERALS ARE SO STRANGE
by eskimo curlew on August 24, 2007 9:23 AM
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August 21, 2007
This is why I can't go to Afghanistan.
SWWBO would kill me. Apropos the post below, about going to market...
All these would be going home in the mails. Who cares if they're locally made copies (and not all are, but ya gotta really know your stuff to tell) called "Khyber Rifles?" It's all a part of the history of the gun, the gun it was copied from, and the region where the Armorers who make them live.

For those with the interest, a much larger version of that photo is available by clicking here.
Hmmmm, wunner what Bill is up to these days...
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Those pieces killed enough Brits that I would have thought you'd have the decency to put a "u" in "Armourer" when discussing their makers. ;)
by
Damian on August 21, 2007 8:30 AM
We all know the only reason you would want to go to Afghanistan right now is the hope the house renovation would be finished while you were gone. If you went your sister would probably beg you to come along.
by
Maggie on August 21, 2007 8:33 AM
Those are recently made guns?!??
As best I can tell from the photo (and I must regretfully tell you, John, that 640x427 is not "much larger"), those all resemble Civil War era long arms: muzzle-loaders with percussion-cap firing mechanisms. What are they doing on sale in an Afghan market? I knew that some Afghan men still carry bolt-action rifles, G98s and SMLEs and the like, but I had no idea they still made or used rifles this old.
by wolfwalker on August 21, 2007 8:33 AM
Wolfwalker - you probably got that size because your browser is set to force images into your display resolution.
Either right-click and save as, or change your browser settings - and you'll get the 2400 pixel edition.
And yes, those are all black powder weapons. I still want to score a Khyber Enfield - the copied the No1MkIII a lot, too.
I'm guessing those are out there for the Americans, who can only ship back pre-1898 arms, anything more recent than that has to come in via an importer.
Ooops. Nope. The size limitation is due to having exceeded the bandwidth at my photo host.
I'll email you a copy.
Scratch that - I"ll just upload it to the blog server and replace the link.
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John of Argghhh! on August 21, 2007 8:51 AM
John -- um, I run my browser fullscreen at 1024x768. I see the small version in the post, and a noticeably larger version at the "Click here" link, but nothing even close to 2400 pixels wide. I think your link is wrong - that is, the "Click here" link leads to the wrong version of the photo at Fototime.
by wolfwalker on August 21, 2007 9:00 AM
Check yer email and reload the page in your browser to make sure that the change I made is loaded into your browser.
The link should *not* be to Fototime.
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John of Argghhh! on August 21, 2007 9:03 AM
Ahhh, got it! Thanks.
Hm, hm, hm. Most of those are percussion-cap jobs, but two of them look like early breechloaders. Martini actions, probably, considering the source.
by wolfwalker on August 21, 2007 9:25 AM
There's a bunch of Snyder conversions in there, with some 3-band Towers, a few Martinis, a Snyder carbine - and the big outlier - a Lebel, down there towards the end on the right.
by
John of Argghhh! on August 21, 2007 9:57 AM
Hmmmm, wunner what Bill is up to these days...
Six-foot-zero -- same as always...
by
BillT on August 21, 2007 11:27 AM
Oh -- you were referring to shopping.
The only smoke poles I've seen around here are G3s, MP5s and riot guns of various gauges, but the owners wouldn't like it if I took an obvious interest in them. And the Shadows would take it as a personal insult if we packed our own protection.
I've heard AKs twice, but the owners appeared only as items in the next day's paper...
by
BillT on August 21, 2007 11:47 AM
*2* Lebels - there's one hiding behind a Martini in the middle there...
by
John of Argghhh! on August 21, 2007 3:51 PM
STILL no catapults?
I feel so sorry for you.
Well lay in a pile of 4X4's and I'll come and sort it out for you.
by Murray on August 21, 2007 11:29 PM
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August 13, 2007
Guns 'n Rosa's...
That's what CAPT H titled his email where he sent me this link to a photo essay on the Women's Village Defense Committee's in India. Imagine that - providing state-of-the-art weaponry to persons who are *not* full-time government employees (because, as we all know, being a government employee means you are by definition gifted with better judgement and superior intellect and impulse control - hey, just ask us!).

Here's a better shot with fuller context. Yep, along with some AK's, those are home-built Indian INSAS'.
Gun Trash had the first correct answer - however, CAPT H, having pointed out the article in the first place, gets points for restraining himself as long as he did. Well, and for pointing out the article, too!
My first instinct when I saw the muzzle shot, which I knew to be wrong as I started looking closer, was MAS 49/56.
Examples of both are in the Holdings of the Arsenal of Argghhh!!!
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A couple years ago, an old woman in an obscure Indian village decided she wanted to learn to shoot. After much grief from the village men, she learned to shoot a .22 (which actually did look like a .22). Then other women became interested, and off it went.
Was an offbeat TV news item, primarily because it had an interesting after effect -- the number of wives dying of strange causes dropped to almost nothing in that village.
Not surprised to see interest cropping up in other Indian women....
by MAJ Arkay on August 13, 2007 10:58 AM
The "female Indian shooter" was as far as I got. You know me- if it's got a muzzle and a trigger, it's a gun, plain and simple.
[Hmmm, if that's true AFSis... how do you classify these? Oh, and under the top one? That's a spike, not a trigger, btw. -the Armorer]
by AFSister on August 13, 2007 12:54 PM
Dunno about AFSis, but I'd classify 'em as dual-threat bludgeons...
by
BillT on August 13, 2007 3:57 PM
Trigger: "3. anything, as an act or event, that serves as a stimulus and initiates or precipitates a reaction or series of reactions."
Cheers
by J.M. Heinrichs on August 13, 2007 5:23 PM
Well I don't know if they frighten the enemy, but by god their weapons handling skill are inducing an involuntary bowel movenment in me.
by Murray on August 13, 2007 6:41 PM
The ladies in the foreground appear to be having difficulty obtaining the proper sight picture. As long as I'm in the neighborhood...
by
BillT on August 14, 2007 1:29 AM
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April 6, 2007
Accessorizing in the Arsenal
As we've modfied our spendy-habits to allow us to do things like put Kid Through College, Pay Down Debt, and attend the Milblogger Conference, addition of firearms to the Arsenal Holdings has been greatly slowed.
I've contented myself with doing some accessorizing. In this case, the Castle's CUGR.

By adding a nice Saiga VEPR POSP 4x24 V range finder scope. I know, I know, stamped reciever rifle with a scope... better not bang it too much if I want it to hold its boresight.
For those with the bandwidth - here's a higher res version.
I've been slack on gun/militaria/ordnance pics of late. I'll try to make up for it.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
February 6, 2007
Heh. It would appear the Armorer has helper-gnomes in the Beehive state...
Sanger is getting his revenge on me with his Whatzis number two. I've got that puppy id'd at the T-number, but he's holding out the M-number and a specific aircraft type that he admits he can't find on the 'net either. Sheesh. Dude gets grumpy when he loses a few and is writing a thesis.
However, Sanger, has an interesting guess for *my* Whatzis...
Bottom side of the top part of a lugar?
Heh. I dunno, I don't think I wanna contemplate too hard what
the bottom side of the top part of a lugar looks like. Some things only the missus should know, eh?
Then there's my little helper bee. Here I was gonna post a new pic today that would help *some* anyway, and he goes along and gives you all the google-fodder you could possibly use.
Sigh. [shakes head]

Rod, I believe, was the first (well, no, John was the first, with his oblique guess for me which didn't thus spoil the thing too quickly), Rod was the first to put it into words - Pedersen Device.
Better known, actually, as the US Automatic Pistol, Caliber .30, Model of 1918.

Yep. Pistol. All part of the deception plan to hide what we were doing from the Germans. Made easier by the fact that it shoots a .30 caliber pistol cartridge, virtually identical to the French .30 Longue, IIRC.
The "automatic pistol" hiding in the body of a bolt-action rifle was the brainchild of John Pedersen, of Remington Arms. Development started before the US entered the war and was a private venture on the part of Remington. Having been following the war, Mr. Pedersen was struck by the inability for troops to effectively fire on the run while crossing "No Mans Land". He started down the path that would lead to such weapons as the Browning Automatic Rifle and Chauchat machine gun. The difference is Pedersen figured that he wasn't going to be able to sell the Army on a whole new rifle design, so he decided to develop a drop-in adaptor that would convert the existing rifle - and at the same time preserve it's hi-powered, long range capabilities.

This led to his gizmo, which replaced the bolt of the standard Springfield with a long bit of kit consisting of a complete firing mechanism and a small "barrel" for the small round. In effect, the "device" was essentially a complete blow-back pistol minus a receiver/grip using the short "barrel" of the device to fit into the longer chamber of the M1903 Springfield. The mechanism was fed by a long 40-round magazine sticking out of the rifle to the top right, and could be reloaded by inserting a new magazine. New sights were provided at the rear of the device. The system did require one modification to the rifle however, a hole had to be cut in the side of the bolt area to allow the ejection of spent rounds. You may have seen some of those - M1903's with an elongated oval cut out of the side rail. We have one in the Arsenal, though it's one of the ones that was reworked during WWII with a regular scant stock and green parkerizing.
In early 1917 the Pedersen device was tested and ready for production. Pedersen took his weapon to show the Army. He first fired several rounds from what looked to be a standard M1903. Then he removed the bolt, inserted his pistol, and fired several magazines at a very high rate of fire. The officers were astounded at the relative simplicity and performance, and immediately clamped a SECRET label on the whole thing. As I noted, snooker the Germans, the Ordnance Department named it The US Automatic Pistol, Caliber .30, Model of 1918. Plans were initiated to start production of modified Springfields, listed as the US Rifle, Cal. .30, Model of M1903, Mark I. The intent was to have 500,000 ready for the 1919 Spring Offensive. The use of the Pedersen Device in the 1919 Spring offensive was to be in conjunction with the full combat introduction of the M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR). Pedersen's gizmo was also designed to to fit the US Rifle, Model of 1917 (the American Enfield - which was actually used in greater numbers than the Springfield), and the US Rifle, Model of 1916 ( The Remington Mosin Nagant). Neither of those were ever put into production, although samples of both were made.
With the end of the war, production slowed, though it continued to 1920. Technology overtook the Pedersen device (which we'd know a lot more about had the war continued to 1919) and the BAR and Garand in tandem rendered the Pedersen obsolete. After they were declared surplus, they were all heaped in a large pile... and burned. Most of the Pedersen's in private hands are survivors of the fire - and show varying shades of fire damage. Estimates range up and down, but the current best guess is there are about 250 or so survivors in museums and private hands.

The Armorer got to see one this last weekend at the Fort Leavenworth Militaria Show. It is owned by a buddy of the Armorer, and the Armorer is going to get to... *shoot* it. Neener Neener Neener! My buddy has over 700 rounds of ammo. No, we're not going to shoot all of that. We'll shoot a hundred or so, and reload. Heck the ammo's valuable to collectors.
More, and better, pictures will come at a later date.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
You know, I though something looked wrong with that...Luger
And... just yuch! Not an image I wanted...
by
SangerM on February 6, 2007 11:21 AM
Gad, I thought this would generate more comment.
At least some drooling!
by
John of Argghhh! on February 6, 2007 7:20 PM
Aaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!! I must hate you! I've wanted to play with one of these for years. The closest I've come is to find a magazine pouch in the local Army surplus store nearly twenty years ago. I remember that I was going to donate it to the State Military Museum, but don't remember if I did. Have to check once I'm demobbed........
by Dennis on February 7, 2007 7:25 PM
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November 13, 2006
An M1 for the Band of Brothers.
A Garand for "Shifty Powers." Good on ya, Mr. Radel, Mr. Michaels, and the boys and girls at Boyd's!
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Oh, to be a fly on the wall when Shifty got his rifle..... What a treat that would have been!
by
AFSister on November 13, 2006 2:38 PM
By some coincidence, I just saw Chapter Seven of Band of Brothers on HBO. In it, our honored one is featured by his marksmanship.
by Boquisucio on November 13, 2006 2:58 PM
What a great story - good way to take care of one vet!!
by
Barb on November 13, 2006 3:36 PM
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October 22, 2006
Something soothing amidst all the politics...

The Castle's Portuguese M1886 Kropatschek Rifle. The M1886 bears the distinction of being the first tubular magazine bolt-action rifle to use small bore smokeless powder ammunition, followed closely by the French, with the Lebel.
The French took the basic Kropatschek design and developed it into their M1886, which they went to war with in WWI. Despite the French use of the rifle through the war, tubular magazine rifles, especially after the advent of the pointed "spitzer" bullet - weren't really all that popular with the troops.
With blunt-nosed bullets (like the soft lead slugged black powder rifles) were okay - but start putting sharp-nosed copper/nickel jacketed bullets in there, and you had problems.
The magazine loads a single round at a time, one after the other, nose-to-tail, running up under the barrel. That makes for slow loading, especially when the other guy has clip-fed magazines. Plus, the center of balance of the rifle changes as you fire it, from nose-heavy when fully loaded, moving back towards the bolt as you fire. The long springs were prone to failure, and the tubes themselves would get clogged with dirt and gunk on a muddy battlefield - more so than box magazine rifles.
Now take that pointy bullet and put it in there. You have the pointed end of the bullet butting up against... the primer of the round in front. And that *did* result in accidental discharges when the rifle was dropped. So, the French put an annular groove in the base of their ammunition, which was intended to catch the nose of the bullet. Which complicated manufacture and increased cost, neither things you want to be doing in wartime if you don't have to.
Then there's the increased mechanical features of the liftgate, which catches the round from the magazine and lifts it for loading in the breech - and prevents the next round from exiting the magazine until the liftgate drops after the bolt is pushed forward to load the rifle.
All that bitching aside - the action of the Kropatschek is very smooth and fluid, and she shoots nicely, if a bit ungainly when fully loaded and shooting unsupported.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Nice synopsis of the Kropatschek system, Armorer! Here's the *important* part... the one on the left is nicely engraved on the spine STEYR 1886 (as is typical). The other has the spine markings scrubbed, though the ricasso still bears the early Steyr trademark...
by Neffi on October 22, 2006 4:45 PM
Doesn't Hornady make some Spitzer ammo for tube magazines, now, to get around this problem? Dang! I wish I'd bought a Winchester '94 while they still made 'em!
Owhell, I think the Marlin equivalent is nicer. However, what I absolutely lust after among the lever-actions is a Savage 99 in .250-3000, with the rotary magazine.
Just doing my best for thread veer, here.
by
Justthisguy on October 22, 2006 7:32 PM
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September 22, 2006
French Fusils
Since SWWBO and I will be attending the Gunblogger Rendevous in Reno next month (still time to sign up - you just missed the cheap room rates), I thought I ought to remind people that I don't just sit in the basement taking apart obscure pieces of ordnance to play 'stump the chump' with you guys. Hey, c'mon, Cam Edwards will be there. Rub shoulders with celebrities..
I do have bangsticks.
Since I finally got around to getting a French flag to put behind my French rifles, I thought I'd throw those up - and let the grognards have the easy task of identifying them. The pics do overlap, no extra credit for double-counting.
As Neffi would observe -it's an expensive way to show off your bayonet collection...



We can skip the "only dropped once" jokes. They've been done before - and half of these weapons are Legion veterans, anyway.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Heh. How lame is this... take away one joke and you guys are speechless.
Simply.amazing.
8^)
by
John of Argghhh! on September 22, 2006 1:17 PM
My fathers ships team played the FFL at rugby in Sigon many many years ago.
Most of them were German.
Must have REALLY sucked to have ended up there after WWII.
Royalist won in spite of some very dirty play... or possibly because of some very dirty play. Little fuzzy on the details.
by
Murray on September 22, 2006 2:07 PM
Comrade John,
Lovely rifles and all that, but where are the REAL weapons? The Charlevilles, et al, that won America her freedom and Napoleon an empire? Chassepots and Needle Rifles are all well and good, but any conscript can shoot one of those.... snark.... it's takes determination to engage with .69 buck and ball at 100 yards, then close with the bayonet to the "pas du charge"..
Vive L'Empereur! L'Roi C'est Mort!
Or some such thing..... I work with French best when it's laced with Absinth.....
Respects,
AW1 Tim
by Gwedd on September 22, 2006 2:49 PM
AW1 Tim - the Charleville hangs on the North American Wall...
by
John of Argghhh! on September 22, 2006 3:05 PM
I heard the hardest part of French military training was learnig to say "I surrender" in 7 languages.
by GreyOps on September 22, 2006 3:18 PM
I heard the hardest part of French military training was learnig to say "I surrender" in 7 languages.
by GreyOps on September 22, 2006 3:18 PM
ya takes away the one joke, then sez they're Foreign Legion bangsticks....
sorry, i got nothing. completely dry. not a joke to had for miles around.
by
MajMike on September 22, 2006 4:51 PM
Charleville, eh? Looks like a repro to me... got the bayonet for it? The little one in the middle!
by Neffi on September 22, 2006 5:43 PM
"Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun."
"This is my BOOMstick!"
--Ash
by Toluca Nole on September 22, 2006 6:51 PM
Oh, y'all hush! Those are purty pieces, well kept and well-presented!
by
Justthisguy on September 22, 2006 7:36 PM
It *is* a repro. I can't afford a real one.
And it's the naval version. No bayonet.
by
John of Argghhh! on September 22, 2006 8:05 PM
I was under the impression that the appropriae flag to display with French weapons was a white bed sheet.
Marine6 Sends
by Marine6 on September 23, 2006 9:04 AM
10! (sound of thunder) Mwuahahahahaha! 10 Rifles!
by ry on September 25, 2006 11:31 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
August 9, 2006
And now for something a little different...
Reader-supplied gun pr0n.
Easy question: What are they?

Another shot.
Another variant.
Harder question (but not hugely so) - which commenter provided the pics of family treasures?

What's not to like? Gun Puppy Pr0n!
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Czech VZ-58 bayonet with holding attachment...
by Neffi on August 9, 2006 7:51 AM
The Chief.
by
Maggie on August 9, 2006 8:01 AM
er a Czech bayonet with with holding attachment for VZ-58 gun ...
and a heavily used Czech flak jacket.
The commenter is hmm er SWWBO?
by
Trias on August 9, 2006 8:27 AM
Well, DUH.
It's a Golden Retriever, a flac jacket, a rifle and a knife, cleverly displayed on a wooden deck.
jeez.
by AFSister on August 9, 2006 9:00 AM
That would be "flak" jacket, named for the body armor worn by WWII bomber crews to protect against... flak. The made-up german word for anti-aircraft weapons, a contraction of FLugzueg Abwehr Kanone... just for the edification of those of you who didn't know where the term comes from.
A "flack" jacket is the suit-coat worn by a PR guy...
by
John of Argghhh! on August 9, 2006 9:30 AM
shit(e).
beat down again.....
by AFSister on August 9, 2006 10:10 AM
Bad AFSis! Sit! Stay! Write on the board 100 times, "I will not type sh*t in the comments at Castle Argghhh!"
by
John of Argghhh! on August 9, 2006 10:17 AM
You can say all the shite ya want - but if ya use the word, ya gotta mis-spell it so I don't have to renegotiate with the AF Net-nanny!
by
John of Argghhh! on August 9, 2006 10:19 AM
I'd say that flak vest is just an old US Army one...what we used previous to the IBA. Just like the one sitting in my garage.
Unless the Czech simply copied ours.
by
Heartless Libertarian on August 9, 2006 10:55 AM
*sheepish grin*
Am I due for a flogging now? Complete with cuffs and leather whips?
by AFSister on August 9, 2006 11:14 AM
Well, first we must tie you down on a bed ... and spank you.
And after the spanking ...
by Masked Menace© on August 9, 2006 12:46 PM
bzzzzt! tweeeeee! pingpingping!
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!
by PG-17c on August 9, 2006 1:01 PM
WHOOO HOOOO!
*high-five's MM* Way to go- you just put the PG17C into overdrive.
I'm so proud....
by AFSister on August 9, 2006 1:09 PM
MM gets the Python reference of the day!
IIRC, the first word of what comes after the spanking starts with an 'o'...
I just can't remember if it's supposed to be Galahad rescuing Lancelot or the other way round...
by
Heartless Libertarian on August 9, 2006 2:14 PM
Yeah, but Catholic school nuns ain't got nothin' on the PG-17c with a ruler.
My knuckles are quite red. I'll have to have a talk with BCR Labs about that. :-)
by Masked Menace© on August 9, 2006 2:46 PM
"My knuckles are quite red."
And now we get into MM's particular kink.
by
Maggie on August 9, 2006 3:52 PM
Well, since the Chief is a Contributor vice a Commenter, I'm going to guess that the provider of the pic is actually Neffi. We've seen other pictures of the back deck decorated with cystalized water, and he does love bayonets!
by
Barb on August 9, 2006 6:28 PM
"Ladies and Gentlemen, Roberta Flugzeug Abwehr Kanone!"
(Yes, I know about the missing "C".)
by Toluca Nole on August 9, 2006 9:05 PM
*oogles AFSis & MM*
Uhm...err....I think I'll just wait outside for a change...
*exits rapidly*
by
BloodSpite on August 10, 2006 3:36 AM
It looks like an AK rubber duckie with someone's bayonet and some Warsaw Pact LBE webbing w/mag pouches added to a US Army issued Body Armor vest(flak jackets were Vietnam era, this stuff was mid-80s/90s) like that I wore when I was in Germany in the early 90s.
by
SGT Jeff (USAR) on August 11, 2006 11:00 AM
Swag from the Balkans or from Faklklands?
by ry on August 11, 2006 12:08 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
July 15, 2006
Milblogger Shoot Hotwash
Using Dave the Heartless Libertarian's 9mm carbine, I ensured a certain tv dinosaur wouldn't reproduce.
Which wasn't good enough for Sergeant B, who took a rather more final approach to the issue.

The other holes are courtesy of Boston Maggie and SWWBO.
Barb, BCR, Echo Niner were also present - more pics to follow.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
I'd like to point out, for the record, that The Princess was very well-behaved, and still managed to flash everyone in the bar...
And that's my story, and I'm sticking to it...
by
Sgt. B. on July 16, 2006 2:33 AM
Well behaved huh. Well I guess that would be news.
At last the dinosaur is extinct.
by
Trias on July 16, 2006 8:26 AM
Who's pattern was it that dispensed with Barnie's Privates?
I guess that it went: HAPPY POP Goes da Weasel!!!
by Boquisucio on July 16, 2006 11:19 AM
Boq - what part of "...I ensured a certain tv dinosaur wouldn't reproduce." confused you?
8^D
by
John of Argghhh! on July 16, 2006 11:30 AM
PLEASE come to my house! Our 2 1/2 -year-old is holding my wife and me in BARNEY HELL!
Will no one rid us of this purple beast?
LOL
by fdcol63 on July 16, 2006 4:18 PM
In '94, while running a training site for ROTC at Ft Lewis, we would put a quarter pound block of TNT under a Barney, remote wire it, have the cadets sing "...I love..." you know the rest, and BOOM, purple stuffing in a beautiful vortex of gas.
by
Hunter on July 16, 2006 6:18 PM
Well, I guess we all know why dinosaurs are extinct now. John shot their privates off while touring history in his 'way-back machine. heh.
by AFSister on July 16, 2006 10:25 PM
John snipped their ability to produce reinforcements, but, as cannons were still in the developmental stage, handed his light work to me, and I put 'em down...
by
Sgt. B. on July 18, 2006 1:36 PM
Nice work. The sterilizing group appears to be smaller than the conventional group (exept for the work of the newbies).
All around, a fantastic cause. Parents everywhere applaud you!
by
jarhead john on July 21, 2006 7:33 AM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
April 26, 2006
Gun Pr0n. The Needlegun.
Ain't done any in a while - and found out that a lot of the milbloggers *like* the gun pr0n, even if they don't comment on it. They mentioned its absence.

This is the French response to the German Dreyse Needlegun of the mid-to-late 1860's - the Chassepot. It fired a linen cartridge with the primer cap being in the base of the bullet. To fire, the bolt pushed it's way into the linen cartridge and when fired, the needle pushed through the rest of the way to fire the cap and ignite the powder.

These rifles don't use the now-common locking lugs to seal the breech. Early versions of the Chassepot rifle used leather washers to seal the breech. This rifle has what's left of the later rubber gasket. There was always leakage and the rifle was *not* popular with the troops. The pins were prone to breakage, becoming brittle from the heat of firing, always annoying in the heat of a firefight. In the photo below, you can see both the rubber seal and the protruding needle.

The needleguns were all transitional rifles as the arms merchants learned how to make brass cartridges - a subject already covered in this space.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Your Chassepot is even cooler than my Gras. *grumble*
Nice find! I'm jealous!
by
Tam on April 26, 2006 12:43 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
March 10, 2006
Navy Gun Pr0n.

Another one here, and another one here.
Those are M-14's, the Armorer's favorite US battle rifle. H/t, Tammy B.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Question.
The caption says it's an Airman pictured, on board a carrier.
Do we have Air Force personnel assigned to carriers now??
by Were-Kitten on March 10, 2006 9:06 AM
Look at how they captioned the photographer, too. Airman may be Naval shorthand for the Aviation ratings in the Navy. I dunno. Mebbe a visiting sailor with enlighten us.
That said, if the people doing captions for the Navy have the same depth of knowledge as the people captioning Army pics, it could just be a screw-up, too.
But those are Navy ratings doing the shooting.
by
John of Argghhh! on March 10, 2006 9:19 AM
Miss Melissa has picked up a very bad habit, somewhere along the line. First time she tries to hit a target greater than 15 meters away with *that* support-arm position, she's gonna be SOL.
Even the VC knew better than to use the mag as a front handgrip.
And I like the M-14 a lot, too. But for anything over a thousand meters, I'll take an M-1, and, yes, I *can* hit things that far out with it. With iron sights. The only advantage I can see to using a scope is to see "the look" on his face...
by cw4(ret)billt on March 10, 2006 9:40 AM
Good catch, Bill. I've only shot the M1 and M14 out to 800 meters on the National Match ranges at Fort Riley and Fort Sill. But I suspect my eyesight no longer supports that kind of shooting over iron sights.
There's a little FOD detail to follow, since they seem to be shooting across the flight deck... and I wonder what those sandbags are full of...
by
John of Argghhh! on March 10, 2006 9:56 AM
Beat me to the FOD walkdown.
Heh. The sandbags are probably full of laundry...
by cw4(ret)billt on March 10, 2006 10:04 AM
Carriers = Naval Aspirators. They are engaged in a FAM fire. Sandbags are to protect the stuff around the catwalks ... have you ever seen squids shoot?
Sailors designated as Ship's Landing Party FAM fire weapons now and then. A lot of them are armed with the M-14, which replaced the M-1. BAR, Thompson's some time back.
To Marines they look more like the Ding Ding Brothers Barnfarb and Bailout circus. They even go ashore now and then for familiarization. Or sometimes in areas where there is no USO to provide comic relief to any Marines who may be about. Grey helmits dungarees, and their trousers tucked into their socks.
Usually the 'CCO' of a gator ship, or the Marine Detatchment of a capitol ship is tasked to try to teach them something.
Back in the 'day' they operated like the the anchor klankers in Sand Pebbles.
by jim b on March 10, 2006 10:26 AM
hi!
I am a real fan of your website!
I am from the "M-14" army! enjoyed this article on that fine weapon!
Roy Patterson
veteran B Troop 1st Squadron
14th Armored Cav
1966-1969
Fulda Gap
by
Roy Patterson on March 10, 2006 10:49 AM
Wait a minute! No helmets or LBE? What kind of rifle range is that? And... So that's where all the M-14s are hiding out..
by
Bruce on March 10, 2006 10:52 AM
Bruce let me try to explain.
The range is a flight deck of a carrier.... that IS her LBE. A helmet would mess up her hair, she is wearing her 5th ammendment glasses, and keeping a tight group somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean, the Pacific or wherever she is tournig at present.
That 'gun' thing is just a way of passing some time, they were playin with remote control air planes till they crashed them all.
What you can't hear is the music playin while they shoot, and the gunner's mate gryping about having to clean the rifles after they are done.
I hope she doesn't break a nail. You know how crabby she gets.
by jim b on March 10, 2006 11:25 AM
I just hope those bags are full of sand, and not seamen.
;-)
by Were-Kitten on March 10, 2006 11:44 AM
Owe-kayyy, I sense a thread-hijacking attempt in progress...
by cw4(ret)billt on March 10, 2006 12:04 PM
Heh. Just, heh.
by
John of Argghhh! on March 10, 2006 12:06 PM
Owe-kayyy, I sense a thread-hijacking attempt in progress...
Perceptive, ain't he? ;)
by
FbL on March 10, 2006 1:00 PM
no one play with the term threadjacking okay ... it's Friday after all.
by jim b on March 10, 2006 1:06 PM
Thread-jacking? Moi?
never.....
I was just looking out for the safety of our men at sea.
honest.
*crosses fingers behind back*
by Were-Kitten on March 10, 2006 1:38 PM
We interrupt your regularly scheduled threadjacking with this important Naval Bulletin:
Our benevolent host is mostly correct on the airman confusion. There are 3 'flavors' of ratings in the Navy: Seamen (most rates), Airmen (aviation related rates), Firemen (Damage Control types, Hull Techs, Machinists, other seemingly random rates). However, once they reach E4, they are all just referred to as Petty Officers, or their specific rate.
We now return you to your threadjacking already in progress
by
PigBoatSailor on March 10, 2006 3:20 PM
I tole ya a wandering sailor would give us the straight skinny!~
by
John of Argghhh! on March 10, 2006 3:24 PM
Huh? Using "sailor" and "straight" in the same sentence?
What's up--you turning into Lex of Argghhh?
by cw4(ret)billt on March 10, 2006 3:29 PM
Geez chief, just because they say 120 men get underway on a sub and 2 prizefighters and 59 couples come back...?
by
PigBoatSailor on March 10, 2006 6:12 PM
Am I the only one who noticed the Picatinny rail looking thingys on the female sailors rifle?
First mount I've seen that didn't have a solid rail all the way over the ejection port. Can anyone elighten me as to the advantage of doing it this way?
by
Heartless Libertarian on March 10, 2006 6:31 PM
Well, HL- female sailors *demand* a different mount (or so I've heard). Something to do with solid rails over the ports, or some such thing...
by Neffi on March 10, 2006 7:55 PM
Rather than a "mount" perhaps a "mounting"?
Cheers
JMH
by J.M. Heinrichs on March 10, 2006 9:19 PM
Clearly got here far too late to contribute meaningfully to this discussion...
Will point out that I love the M-14 too. Just sumpin about a rifle that's got heft, both coming and going.
And you leave that last bit be, Were-Kitten ;-)
by
lex on March 11, 2006 10:26 AM
John,
I'm just glad we got away from the "bags of seamen" comment from the Kitten.
As for the Army.....I always think of the stuff you sent me of your exchange tour. Isn't that you front right?
by
CDR Salamander on March 11, 2006 10:26 AM
'Phibian - no, no. I forwarded you that from CAPT H!
by
John of Argghhh! on March 11, 2006 11:55 AM
The 3rd Brigade Combat Team of the 101st Abn drew a couple hundred M-14's from depot stocks as interim weapons for soldiers in Designated Marksman positions prior to deploying to Iraq last year. When we got to the staging base in Kuwait, it turned out that I (that old retired dude,) was the only person in the Brigade headquarters company who knew how to field strip one. It turned into a train-the-trainer class real quick.
by Blake Kirk on March 11, 2006 3:34 PM
One of the best Arty training films around!
Cheers
JMH
by J.M. Heinrichs on March 11, 2006 4:24 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
November 20, 2005
Serious Timewaster
Especially if you'd like to spend some time getting some practice with sight pictures, and setting sights for competition weapons.
I lost an hour of my life here so far... and will no doubt lose more.
Euro Firearm Simulator.
Heh. Might be a way to work this into a Cyber-shoot...
Work safe for just about everybody but Ry.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Oh the humanity...
First he has home Gun Pron, then he goes to online Gun Pron, and NOW our fearless leader has to resort to SIMULATED gun Pron??
Look out, the Birkenstocks are right around the corner.
by Jon The Mechanic on November 20, 2005 10:56 AM
Heh. I *still* have the home gun pr0n, wrench monkey. What's yer basement look like?
And I would prefer the Denizens be practiced with BRM *before* they start shooting up my ammo in the spring, eh?
by
John of Argghhh! on November 20, 2005 11:07 AM
I see your ulterior motives, John! Do we have to submit screen shots of minimum scores to qual for open range activity? heh!
Took me a few minutes to figure out the Advanced Pistol (indoor), so I won't submit my 3-target scores for the first round. Maybe the next one. Gads, I could waste may hours playing with this site!!
by
Barb on November 20, 2005 12:38 PM
Another great time waster.
I keep playing the demo over, and over ... :)
by David Cress on November 20, 2005 5:33 PM
Ooooh. That *is* nice Dave!
by
John of Argghhh! on November 20, 2005 8:18 PM
You supplying the hardware for the spring shoot, or do I bring my own? I have a couple I haven't shot yet so I may bring those.
by msg keith on November 20, 2005 10:20 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
September 9, 2005
Since Boquisucio needs help..
...with his Rangefinder ID, here is the Castle's Barr and Stroud Rangefinder that is part of our Vickers kit. Also in the pic are a Carl Gustav 84mm recoilless rifle and a PIAT. The Gustav and PIAT are for use against people who drive tanks or hide in bunkers. People like that, well, they suck. Of course, the sorry jerks who gave the PIAT to the Brit soldier in WWII suck too. But that's a different story.
Next up is a sample of the Castle Argghhh! LRS, Looter Repellent System. Rabbit ears (German made, ex-Argentine) for target acquisition, sniper loop w/rifle for retail responses, Max the Maxim should a more robust response be needed.
The minefield sign doesn't hurt, either.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
... and Gunners BLOW, BIG TIME, like hurricane Ophelia!
Take that, you Arty person! I pick my nose at you!
Cheers
JMH
by J.M. Heinrichs on September 9, 2005 7:30 AM
And this after I was nice to you Canuckistanians and posted pics of the Navy responding to Katrina.
Fie!
Tankers still suck!
by
John of Argghhh! on September 9, 2005 7:38 AM
Long Rod Penetrators!
Cheers
JMH
by J.M. Heinrichs on September 9, 2005 9:52 AM
Feh, John. Ask any target you're trying to penetrate... they prefer width to length.
LRP's are definitely sub-caliber and arrive too quickly.
by
John of Argghhh! on September 9, 2005 9:56 AM
Ya'll need to uncock your pistols and put them back in their holsters.
the truth is, if you cananot deliver on target everytime for more than thirty minutes, penetrate the target, regardless of types of barriers, and insure less than 3% failure rate, you will not make it in this woman's army.
Might as well send you back to the mess as a baker's mate.
by
kat-missouri on September 9, 2005 10:08 AM
***PapaGulf-17 twitches into coniptions***
by Boquisucio on September 9, 2005 10:45 AM
What's wrong with talking about artillery and ammunition, Boq? *looking around innocently*
by
Fuzzybear Lioness on September 9, 2005 10:50 AM
Kat, 30 minutes Heh..not a problem.. and I can GUARANTEE 100% success rate, and then some... and multiple 'targets'.....
*i think the PG-17 just ran into a hole to hide...*
by klkk on September 9, 2005 1:14 PM
I agree K-MO, a long and sustained FFE Heavy Arty Barrage, is what is requied to fulfill the mision, no matter how reinforced the target may be.
FbL, there's nuthin' wrong about discussing Arty and Ammo. It's just that ol' PapaGulf-17 gets sparking too easily. ;)
Oh and Boss, that Barr&Stroud standing rigidly on that mount, is sure to find the range to any required target.
***BZZZZTZAAAP*** ***SNAP-SNAP***
"Down boy - DOWN"
by Boquisucio on September 9, 2005 1:46 PM
When we get to ramming the round to seat the projectile and then tossing in the powder, bending over, peering in the breech and saying "Charge 6 White Bag, I see Red!", the PG-17c will consult its glossary and just... *twitch*.
by
John of Argghhh! on September 9, 2005 1:57 PM
did i just hear the sound of an angel's wings getting clipped? LOL
you folks are just...just...BAD!
by
alix on September 9, 2005 2:04 PM
no, alix, we are very, very, VERY good.....
by klkk on September 9, 2005 2:09 PM
And humble, too! ROFL
by
Fuzzybear Lioness on September 9, 2005 2:15 PM
hehe.
by
alix on September 9, 2005 3:17 PM
*still here, quietly stirring the fire*
Ooop.
*brushes errant ember from 27" zipper*
by cw4(ret)billt on September 9, 2005 3:18 PM
*fans self*
Long Rod Penetrators; width; deliver on target; multiple 'targets'; standing rigidly; 27" zipper....
must...resist...POLE DANCING....
oh, SO hard to resist!
by MAWK on September 9, 2005 3:55 PM
Easy there MAWK. At this pace PapaGulf-17 MOD C will burn out a fuze before sundown. We do not want him to be out of commission for the rest of the week-end.
by Boquisucio on September 9, 2005 4:04 PM
Weekend... Do I hear the stirrings of a (careful now!) Castle Party?! Nahhh.... surely not. :)
by
Fuzzybear Lioness on September 9, 2005 4:22 PM
Acquiring the target requires extensive knowledge concerning positioning of the weapon and using the range finding equipment. You should know how to work the elevation screw in case of a system failure requiring manual override.
by
kat-missouri on September 9, 2005 4:28 PM
Before the inroduction of electronic equipment and contained ammunition, the gun captain would select appropriate elevation using an elevation screw. He would eye the target and, using calculations learned from long years of school and practice, adjust the proper angle of the gun. He would use a number of types of ammunition with the most effective being the explosive ball. Though, the ball and chain ammunition could cause extensive damage to the enemy's masts.
Keeping the powder dry in wet conditions was extremely difficult. The balls would be lit using a specifically measured fuse. Once the balls were seated and the gun was raised to the proper elevation, another fuse would be lit causing the large bore weapon to eject it's ammunition.
A gunner's mate would be standing by to swab the gun whenever it became overheated.
by
kat-missouri on September 9, 2005 4:49 PM
Speaking of mine warnings... here's a souvenior I brought back from my deployment to the Zone in the late 70s.
Hope nobody wandered into the field after I took the sign... heh
by Neffi on September 9, 2005 5:30 PM
Yep, counterfeit assignations.
by Justthisguy on September 9, 2005 5:45 PM
Ah, Boqui? That's Fuse with an Ess? The electrical kind, not the kind that sputters and makes yummy smoke and then causes something to go boom?
Pedantic, c'est Moi! Heinrichs ain't in it!
(He was normal enough that the docs let him join up. Well, he may have memorized the answers to the psychological tests...)
by Justthisguy on September 9, 2005 6:02 PM
Ah - I stand corrected JTG
by Boquisucio on September 9, 2005 6:23 PM
Scruffy The Scruple sez: DID SOME ONE SAY PARTAY!!!.
by Boquisucio on September 9, 2005 6:36 PM
Boq, that is one ugly kitty...
Looks like she could use a maragarita!
[kick] [kick] [kick] Oh... turns on gas valve
kick... sput pop sput varoomm............
...and the Harley powered Margarita-Matic purrs into life......
by Neffi on September 9, 2005 6:50 PM
Hi, Neffi! *waves*
Got any Cosmopolitans around?
*snuggles down in the couch*
by
Fuzzybear Lioness on September 9, 2005 6:55 PM
Damn..kat knows balls as much as she does oranges.....
by klkk on September 9, 2005 9:04 PM
oh...sorry..CANNON balls... just wanted to clarify that...
by klkk on September 9, 2005 9:06 PM
Not in the mood to Par-Tay, m'self, aged Daddy being in h'ptal and maybe leaving planet sometime soon, but will look in from time to time, for distraction, to keep from going completely batso.
Dang! That's a damper, ain't it! No, really, y'all have a good time, I'll stop by now and then, just to keep from getting too weird.
Whoops! Already too late for that.
by Justthisguy on September 9, 2005 9:22 PM
cannon balls, oranges...you're all a buncha coconuts! :oD
by
alix on September 9, 2005 10:49 PM
I'll be spending today in writing salacious proposals to the government in an effort to entice them to have their way with me... for money.
We know what I am... we're just negotiating on price.
by
John of Argghhh! on September 10, 2005 8:35 AM
Since the original theme of this was guns, thought I'd give you an update. Remember back in March, I went to the range and earned the German Schutzenschnur? Well, I finally got it in the mail yesterday, and they apparently awarded me the Gold medal. I thought they had said Silver at the range, but then again they were speaking German. So I earned the Gold, AND I get to wear it...(neener, neener...)
by msg keith on September 10, 2005 9:48 PM
Since the original theme of this was guns, thought I'd give you an update. Remember back in March, I went to the range and earned the German Schutzenschnur? Well, I finally got it in the mail yesterday, and they apparently awarded me the Gold medal. I thought they had said Silver at the range, but then again they were speaking German. So I earned the Gold, AND I get to wear it...(neener, neener...)
by msg keith on September 10, 2005 9:50 PM
Heh. Well, okay, we have the same one, you get to wear it... and I think I'll check my paycheck stub...
Plllppppttt!
by
John of Argghhh! on September 10, 2005 10:47 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
April 29, 2005
Gun Zen
The crud has migrated to the chest, enough so that I finally conceded and didn't go into the office today. Via the joys of a wireless connection (and anticipating the event yesterday) I brought the work machine home and will be slaving away, anyway. Dang those suspenses. But, since I slept in, feel like crap, and gotta get this thing done - here's what I've got for you today, courtesy the Admiral of the Moat Fleet and the Blogfather.
Gun videos! Prolly ought to right-click and save-as, but do whatcha want...
Via Boquisucio: Fun with machineguns!
Remember Jaws? Where Roy Scheider shoots the scuba tank in the shark's mouth? I remember when I saw the movie thinking - that kinda steel wouldn't fail that way... but aluminum might. Well, someone has tested the theory. The shark prolly would have been unhappy, regardless...
And finally... *rubbing bald head, staring at nothing* "the horror... the horror..."
Did someone mention cannon? Cannon-cockers? Heh. Musta been me. No, wait - it was Murdoc - talking about the infantry of the 2nd Battalion, Eigth Regiment of FIELD ARTILLERY. AUTOMATIC!
But what's more important... besides that Jointness - is the ratio of 'Combined' (i.e., allied forces)... 3:1.
That, and the fact that they scored some eBay material there - all those Ba'ath Party medals!
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
AAAHHHHHH!!!!!!
A kitten cannon? A kitten CANNON? *sniff* *sniff* And here I thought you *liked* having the kittens around the Castle.....
*gather up fellow Castle Kittens and heads for the hills, far away from cannon*
by Were-Kitten on April 29, 2005 10:14 AM
Good thing for sharks, that they can count on never ending rows of new teefs.
by Boquisucio on April 29, 2005 10:28 AM
Hey! I said "The Horror!"
by
John of Argghhh! on April 29, 2005 10:42 AM
When I tried it, little fluffy got to meet the spikey thingy up close and personal. OUCH!!!!
by Boquisucio on April 29, 2005 11:07 AM
Someone has too much time on his hands, doesn't he?
Poor kitties. I will put out some catnip for them and some smoked salmon and see if they come back, and you guys quit doing the cannon thing.
I thought it was a kitty setting off a cannon and you were thinking of your cats getting into the arsenal.
by Cricket on April 29, 2005 11:23 AM
Ooooh, my kitty went 1,156 feet. Good kitty.
by PigBoatSailor on April 29, 2005 11:31 AM
Beat me. Mine only went 796 feet.
by
John of Argghhh! on April 29, 2005 11:55 AM
Boq - A lovely video to start my day off right *Grin*!!
Really, John - shooting kitties from a cannon? How rude...
I couldn't get past 324 ft, I'd never make it as a redleg.
by
Barb on April 29, 2005 12:03 PM
Oh yea,
Nothing sez GOOD MORNING like David Cassidy & The Partridge Family.
by Boquisucio on April 29, 2005 1:12 PM
Ha 262ft. Right into Audrey´s mouth, nuth'n but rim.
FEED ME SEYMOUR!!!
by Boquisucio on April 29, 2005 1:44 PM
*btw- my kitty went 1200 feet*
RRROOOOAAARR!!
by Were-Kitten on April 29, 2005 3:26 PM
My best was 1,756 but I've been practicing.
by
Punctilious on April 29, 2005 4:39 PM
Were-Kitty... *gather up fellow Castle Kittens and heads for the hills, far away from cannon*
heh... 1200 feet, eh? Methinks the Lady doth protest too much...
by Neffi on April 29, 2005 7:25 PM
So enough of this kitten cannon stuff. I just did the weapon meme came up desert eagle. So what do you think? The .50AE in mauve or should I stick to the 357 version in boring old dark grey?
by
Punctilous on April 29, 2005 9:46 PM
here is a link to your gun.
http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/pr4559.htm
where is the link to your quiz?
by
rammer on April 29, 2005 9:58 PM
Oh, go with the .50 - but please, not in mauve ;-)
What gun quiz? Where is it? Sounds fun...
by
Barb on April 30, 2005 10:51 AM
You know, I am a bit slow... The term "AUTOMATIC EIGHTH" has been slinging around in my head for days, but I couldn't figure out why or what it meant, then I happened to relooked at this link, and it hit me, that was the name of the Arty unit in the 25th Inf when I was there. Duh!
I always liked that name, it has a nice ring to it, very mechanical and lethal sounding, yet lyrical...
Yeah, that's it, lyrical... kaBOOM! (14 round per minute per gun at one point, according to the link).
General Brooks was the Div CG when I was there, father of the two current General Brooks', and he was an Arty guy! Use to run PT in red shorts and a crossed-cannon t-shirt if I remember correctly.
by SangerM on May 2, 2005 9:36 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
February 7, 2005
Dreams...
The Castle does not yet have the resources, in both time and funding, for a display of this sophistication.

WWI German equipment at the National Infantry Museum, Fort Benning, Georgia.
But it *is* nice to know that Great Minds think along similar lines.

The "Germanic Wall" in the Arsenal at Castle Argghhh!, which includes Austrian and Swiss long iron. (Like I said, space is at a premium, so disregard the Brit sniper rifle and the Bren gun on the AA tripod...)
Hi-res version is here.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Nuttin shabby about that, John- I'll take my displays 'hands-on' rather than under glass any day. But that Maxim would look good next to the Bren, no?
by Neffi on February 7, 2005 7:17 AM
When the War of the Worlds hits, I'm heading for the Castle! You've got enough fire power for a small army of bloggers, haven't you John?
by AFSister on February 7, 2005 8:17 AM
Hands off the Bren! It is mine, mine mine I tell you!
*sobbing*
by Cricket on February 7, 2005 8:22 AM
Why the goesche der kriegsmarine as a backdrop? Shouldn't it be displayed with the 20mm mount from the Prinz Eugen?
by cw4billt on February 7, 2005 8:24 AM
Cricket - Wash your hands before you go posting again--you've still got linseed oil all over them from caressing the Bren's stock!
by cw4billt on February 7, 2005 8:27 AM
Cuz I like that flag, that's why. And they carried those rifles on the ships.
I'm not terribly naval at the Castle, but we give 'em some credit here and there.
by
John of Argghhh! on February 7, 2005 9:06 AM
I like navels. Innies, not outies.
Oh hell-navAL.
by AFSister on February 7, 2005 9:15 AM
Oh pooh. You are just being piththy.
by Cricket on February 7, 2005 9:29 AM
And what's with the dinner plate directions?
You got me all hungry for salad and I couldn't see it
in this browser.
I may have to switch browsers.
by Cricket on February 7, 2005 9:37 AM
AF Sister - you need to click on the Castle in the left sidebar. All questions are therein answered.
by
John of Argghhh! on February 7, 2005 10:28 AM
John:
Cricket = Looking for buttons
AFSister = Looking at buttons
by cw4billt on February 7, 2005 12:09 PM
John - Darned if you're not right again. I'd totally forgotten about shipboard Arms Lockers. Doubly embarassing to have to admit to forgetting the two primary functions of the Marines, too:
1. Insure the maintenance of good order and decorum aboard ship and
2. Give the sailors practice leading during the dances...
[*swiftly donning kevlar jock*]
by cw4billt on February 7, 2005 12:42 PM
Bill,
I suggest a package of frozen peas for that soreness. It worked quite well for my neighbor following his vasectomy.
John-
OK. Scrap that. You have enough to arm a SMALL COUNTRY of bloggers. Maybe even enough for all of Europe by now, with the way they seem to be lifting their petticoats while running from conflict. Jeesh! I hope you have a sprinkler system installed. That would be one hella BOOM if anything ever happened!
by AFSister on February 7, 2005 1:39 PM
Oh yeah-
John you should make the Eagle "Jihad This" into a mug or t-shirt! That was OUTSTANDING!
by AFSister on February 7, 2005 1:41 PM
Sis - what, you think I store the ammo and explosives with the weapons? Fates forfend!
Nothing in the house except the Ready Reaction Force ammo. All the rest is properly secured, stored and marked.
My neighbors might be annoyed, but the Castle would be okay...
by
John of Argghhh! on February 7, 2005 1:54 PM
AFSis - The kevlar is to prevent structural damage from fragments.
Brass doesn't get sore.
by cw4billt on February 7, 2005 3:16 PM
John-
Glad to see Beth has knocked some sense into you over the past few years. Seeing all of those grenades, guns and other weapons of mass destruction together made me shiver. Well, I think that's what gave me the goose bumps.
HEY!!!!!!!!!!
WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!
So THAT'S where Saddam hid the WMD's! Man, oh man. They were right here under our noses this whole time, in hidden jpg's!
Bill-
Don't you need a structure to prevent from damage before the Kevlar will help?
*puts on really fast shoes and runs away*
by AFSister on February 7, 2005 3:32 PM
Don't bother running, you'll only die tired.
As for the grenades and stuff - that's all in the house.
It just ain't live.
I don't own *live* 155mm DPICM. That would be dumb, not to mention illegal.
But I do have purpose built inert dummies, or inerted ordnance...
Purpose-built inert dummies... no, I'll leave that one lie today, given 1SG Kasal.
by
John of Argghhh! on February 7, 2005 3:46 PM
"Gunner, target. Twelve o'clock, three thousand--snarkstress at desk, nose pressed against monitor, sensible shoes. TOW with SARAFIM warhead, selector AUTO."
"Searching...searching...okay, middle window. Gimme constraints."
"You're in constraints. I confirm your sight pic with pipper. Wire-cut switch identified. Shoot."
BAMF! "TOW on the wire. Tracking...tracking..."
by cw4billt on February 8, 2005 9:40 AM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
January 12, 2005
The new 6.8mm Spec Ops round.
Before I launch into this discussion - I reload now and again, but it's vanilla, using standard data. I gunsmith, but I'm not a designer, I'm a repairer of milsurp (hell, anything, if you ask me to), nor do I do custom work. I'm looking at starting to build my own guns - but they will be older guns, originals of which are unobtainable with my projected lifetime income, and the ones available shouldn't be shot, anyway. I'm talking hand gonnes, wheelocks, matchlocks, etc. There are several manufacturers out there who will provide castings and forgings, rough finished stocks and (interior at least) finished barrels that the home crafstman will have to fit, temper, harden, polish and assemble. It's the only way I'm going to push the holdings of the Castle much farther back in time, as reproductions. But that oughta be cool, as well as fun - and since you can get all the pieces individually, if you screw it up, you can order a new part and start over and not go broke.
I bring that up because unlike at many other gun-related sites, I don't get into the technical bits about ballistics (I can write a nice treatise on interior, exterior, and terminal if you'd like) but I'm just not into it like that.
One reason for that is, I don't hunt, and I don't precision target shoot. My interest in shooting has always been from a practical perspective. I was more interested in being technically competent, and able to hit man-size targets from whatever position I was in, preferably behind cover, and knowing when to use area fire to reduce risk. Combat shooting. I've never been one of those guys who takes his shooting rest, sets up on the bench, shoots through his chronograph, and takes calipers downrange to measure his shot groups. If everything was center of mass at my aiming point, I was happy. Which is a good thing - my preferred weapon for recreation is a surplus military firearm... shooting surplus military ammo. I could lock that in a shooting vise and still have irregular groups, so if all my shots are in the center of mass at 100 yards and over, that usually is pretty competent shooting. I was also a paintball wizard in my day - that kind of snapshooting is a useful skill, if it doesn't truly give you a proper appreciation for cover versus concealment.
So, if you ever come across me on the range - I'm usually shooting faster than the other guy, unless he's just playing like I am. If I can, I'll have multiple targets at different ranges, and engage them in sequence, or randomly.
Because that's the kind of shooting that kept my ass intact, those very few time I needed it. I don't have a 10th the firefight exposure most combat troops in Iraq have.
So - I do collect cartridges, in that I like to have at least one to match each weapon in the arsenal here at the Castle, and there is much to learn (or to teach, when cracking open skulls and pouring in data) and having the artifacts makes it both easier to learn and to teach.
The parent cartridge for the 6.8mm Rem SPC is the old .30 Remington, which is essentially a rimless .30-30. Left to right: .30 Remington, 6.8mm Rem SPC, .308 Winchester, .223 Remington.
Where was I? Oh, yeah - the new 6.8mm round. CAPT H, my Canuckistanian Compadre, sent along a link to this article on the new round, written by one of the guys involved in its development.
Why develop a new round? There are actually lots you who read me who know more about it (or at least have stronger opinions, based on the comments) but the .223 round fired from the M4 just doesn't have the oomph, especially at range, we'd like. I hate it when I shoot someone and they get back up. That means I have to divert my attention from the other guy I'm shooting and re-engage a target that doesn't have the good sense to stay down. Never mind the fact I expected my soldiers to behave the same way if they (or I) got shot - the fight's not over just because you got unlucky...
I have never been a fan of the M16, though I found the M4 handy as a field grade officer, and vastly superior to the Beretta. Yeah, I'm one of those guys who would come into a division TOC with an M4. I'd still pack the M92, as well, or, if I was in a friendly environment for that sort of thing, I'd have my Remington-Rand M1911A1. I'm curmudgeonly that way. And I got in trouble now and then with more conventional bosses... Hell, when I was a battery commander, I traded my VTR (Vehicle Tracked, Recovery - a tracked tow truck) driver my .45 for his M3 Grease Gun. I figured if I needed to influence a fight personally, a subgun was going to do better at that than a .45, at greater range, and with less likelihood of sight problems with someone else's no-longer-needed, sighted-for-them M16. And yes, you really can shoot one of those things accurately enough - just don't hold down the trigger!
But I'm a big guy, and my favorite rifle continues to be the M14 - even though I know why it didn't last, except as a sniper weapon. But that's instructive, too - it survived as a sniper weapon because it was accurate, reliable - and the cartridge had good combat ballistics.
The new 6.8mm round seems to be the good compromise here. Virtually the same flight characteristics and lethality as the .308, yet still small enough for the M16 receiver, bolt, and gas system.
I'll look forward to getting a chance to pop a few caps. Too bad I don't know anyone in the MTU at Benning... I probably could have scored a shot at it when I was down there last November. And mebbe I'll hold off on getting a semi-auto M4 clone until they come out in 6.8mm for the civilian market.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
I've always felt that the primary purpose of a pistol was as trading material for a real gun. The M-14 didn't last for the same reason the M1911 didn't--it suddenly dawned on the bean-counters that they could ship umpty-scads of 9mm/5.56mm rounds in the same volume as a mere scad of .45 ACP/7.62mm. A shame, because the M-14 with selector switch gives you some nice options at ranges in excess of 700 meters.
But, if I have my druthers, I'll take rockets (okay, it's a zen thing--"Become one with the rocket, then one with the target. Then--touch!")
Gratuitous disclaimer: Mister Chairman, I am not now, nor have I ever been, involved with chipping my own flints.
by cw4billt on January 12, 2005 11:01 AM
Let me know if you are ever building your own Ferguson Breechloading Rifle. I might travel out to the armory and build one alongside you. I've been in love with that gun ever since I discovered Louis L'Amour as a kid.
by
GEBIV on January 12, 2005 4:34 PM
Well, GEBIV - you might have to pack your bags.
It's on the list.
by
John of Argghhh! on January 12, 2005 4:38 PM
I've seen several manufacturers offering 6.8mm uppers as well as complete rifles/carbines.
The most advertised is Barrett's M468.
by
Heartless Libertarian on January 12, 2005 5:53 PM
Sigh. I really didn't want to know that...
by
John of Argghhh! on January 12, 2005 6:04 PM
Midway has a DPMS upper for about 600 bucks.
I've seen 'em in Shotgun News for less, from other makers (and of course in other sizes and styles).
Scary, innit?
by Sigivald on January 12, 2005 6:26 PM
Glad you included the Ferguson on the list--talk about historically significant (and not just because it was a "first").
If Major Pat had been less of a gentleman and had popped George Washington in the back, as he didn't do, just think of the course history may have taken--as in, Horatio Gates as C-in-C of the Continental Army. Shudder.
by cw4billt on January 13, 2005 7:20 AM
Robarm's new XCR is looking interesting, offered in 6.8 makes it more so. I have a little bit of trouble parting with the cash they ask for, but they are one of the few designing new, US semiautos and seem to have a following.
Great read, good luck with the rifle building aspirations. I am a lowly AK builder myself, but the sense of accomplishment is all the same.
by
Head on January 13, 2005 8:33 AM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
January 6, 2005
Public Service Announcements
PSA1. In a discussion of new/updated/modified equipment, CAPT H mentioned he'd start paying attention to "new and improved" when the discussion included the new 6.8mm rifle cartridge. Strategy Page today has a pretty good update on that - available here. Aside from bringing it to your attention, I bring it up because I essentially accused CAPT H of not caring so much about the new round (or it's competitor, the 6.5mm Grendel) but just wanting to watch the bureaucratic infighting when the NATO standardization committees tried to hash out a caliber change. The Strategy Page article shines a little window into what that will be like - using the controversy the whole caliber thing is causing in the US service.
SOCOM has been using the 6.8mm round in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the users like it. But there is resistance from senior (non-SOCOM) generals
to any consideration for replacing the 5.56mm round with the 6.8mm. To further complicate matters, there’s a new 6.5mm “Grendel” round being tested as well, and some troops prefer it to the 6.8mm SPC. This is because the 6.5mm round is more accurate than the 6.8mm one at ranges beyond 500 meters. At the moment, no decision has been made about any replacement for the 5.56mm round.
SOCOM is out doing what the Army Materiel Command and Ordnance would take decades to do. Anyone remember the saga of the M14, M16, Military Ball powder, Improved Military Rifle powder, and getting the 5.56 round developed? Not that I think the current PM Small Arms has the pathologies of Springfield Armory and the Ordnance bubbas who ran it... but one reason McNamara shut down the Arsenal was to kill the culture.
Speaking of the XM8, there is a thread at Strategy Page full of people that swim in the same pool that you sceptics of the program drink from. I recognize some comments and commenters.
PSA2. I generally try, though I'm not always successful, to spell out acronyms the first time or, when posting things like the Marine Tank Company Commander's Fallujah AAR, I'll insert the meanings. The field campaign phases of the GWOT (heh, Global War On Terror) have produced a whole new slew of them, that some of you non-military or retired/been away from it guys may not know. I recently had to put together a dictionary for my father, who served 27 years - but has now been retired 30.
I find there's a virtually identical list at Strategy Page too, which I'm reproducing here (any linkage should also credit SP, please). I'm putting this list up here because there are some funny ones in it - like SIDPERS - and I'd like to solicit other funny ones, from any war or era, you guys remember or know. (The real meaning of SIDPERS is Standard Installation Division PERsonnel System)
AIF- anti-Iraqi forces.
Angels- KIAs that die in a military hospital while undergoing care.
AO- Area of Operations
AOR- Area of Responsibility
ASR- Alternate Supply Route
BIAP- Baghdad International Airport
CASH- combat support hospital.
CPA- Coalition Provisional Authority
CPIC- Combined Press Information Center.
EPW- Enemy prisoner of war
FRE- Former Regime Extremists
HVT- high value target
IDP- Internally Displaced Person (like Fallujah refugees)
IED- improvised explosive device, usually a roadside bomb.
IIG-Iraqi Interim Government, which took over from CPA
ING- Iraqi National Guard
IP- Iraqi Police
KIA- killed in action.
LSA- Life Support Area
METL- Mission Essential Task List
MNF- multinational forces (coalition troops).
MSR- Mail Supply Route
ORMP- Off-Duty Risk Magnification (what personnel -- both officer and enlisted -- often indulge in when not on duty; stuff like drinking 17 beers and then trying to drive home, etc.)
PBIED- person-borne improvised explosive devices
POW-prisoner of war (American)
RCIED- Remote Controlled Improvised Explosive Device
RTD- returned to duty.
SAF- Small Arms Fire
SIDPERS- Silly Idiots Desperately Pretending Everything's Running Smoothly, or SIDetrack PERSonnel (maybe they'll go away)…
SORT- Senior Officer Rest Time
TAL- Transitional Administrative Law, interim constitution, to be created by the TNA
TF- Task Force
TNA- Transitional National Assembly, to be elected this month
VBIED- vehicle-borne improvised explosive devices
WIA- wounded in action
WMD- weapons of mass destruction
I'm talking anything funny or interesting (we can skip SNAFU and FUBAR) and remember to 'modify' any that have Net-Nanny sensitive words in 'em (don't want to get on those services 'autoblock' lists! Things like LBRB and RBRB, Little-Bitty Rubber Boats, Really Big Rubber Boats, for example. Let's see what you have! Not limited to military, either. Anything funny or clever is cool too.
PSA3. Speaking of new/updated/modified gear, here's installment three of the update brief. This part covers mostly weapon sights - and the reinvention of a Vietnam-era magazine clip (as in clipping two mags together for easy access) it'self a reinvention of a WWII clip for M1/M2/M3 carbine magazines...
Download Part 3
You can get Part 1 here and Part 2 here.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
METT-TC: Mission, Enemy, Terrain and weather, Time, Troops available, Civilians.
MSR is Main Supply Route, not mail supply route.
ACM: Anti-coalition Militia
BUFF: Big Ugly Fat F*cker/Fellow
by
Chris in India on January 6, 2005 7:57 AM
Surprised you missed the big current buzzcronym:
NGO - Non-Governmental Organization (e.g., the Red Cross, Catholic Charities, etc.)
Semi-permanent military encampments are now
FOBs - Forward Operating Bases
Getting the biggest play in GWOT circles is the phrase "This is FUBIJAR" - meaning (bowdlerized), "This is an incipient train wreck, But I'm Just A Reservist, so whaddo I know?"
by cw4billt on January 6, 2005 10:06 AM
QANGO: Quasi Autonomous Non Govermental Organization (largely UK.
SOAP- Standard Optimal Adjusted Parameter
SOFT Soap- Semi Organised Funtional Test of a SOAP
CAMEL- Committee Advocating Meretricious and Elite Libertinism
Cheers
JMH
by J.M. Heinrichs on January 6, 2005 11:32 AM
REMF - Really Efficient Managerial Functionary
RTFM - Read The Furnished Material
SNORK - Soda Nasal Overflow Reaches Keyboard
by
triticale on January 6, 2005 12:49 PM
During the halcyon days of the Army of Emptiness, i.e., insufficient pilots to conduct a battle drill and no funds for fuel or parts, our beloved commander would stick his staff around a sandtable with little 1:144 models to conduct a TEWT (pronounced "toot"): Tactical Exercise Without Troops. Us line types figgered it really meant Train Everybody With Toys.
Come to think of it, we had some uproarious training acronyms--but they'd offend the ladies, shock Net-Nanny into an electronic coma and get the Castle a gazillion hits from perverts... =]
by cw4billt on January 7, 2005 7:41 AM
That's a 'Sandtable Exercise"!!
A TEWT occurs on the ground, sometimes with vehicles. It is conducted "without troops" because they (the Troops) would otherwise drink the beer (etc) set aside to envigour the thirsty subalterns.
Cheers
JMH
by J.M Heinrichs on January 7, 2005 11:39 AM
JMH - Prior to the mid 90's (nineteen-nineties, John--wiseacre), it was a "Sandtable Exercise" down here, too, then it became a TEWT. That little chortle lasted about three years, then it magically became a "Rock Drill" (the terminology changes whenever FORSCOM frantically tries to justify its existence).
And now, "Rock Drills" include troops and they're called "Dress Rehearsals"--although the real reason us troops are included is to keep the thirsty subalterns from committing egregious social blunders and damaging their chances of eventually becoming Warrants. When the boss merely wants to exercise the staff, he conducts a--hang on--"Staff Exercise" (aka "STAFFEX"). I know--my head is about to explode, too.
But I like that training+beer idea--wish it would become fashionable down here...again.
So, a hoist of the air-glass and a hearty "Cheers" back at'cha
Bill T
by cw4billt on January 7, 2005 2:35 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
January 3, 2005
New Equipment updates.
I recently got sent an update brief on some of the new, or newly modified gear, being fielded or scheduled for fielding. I'll be posting it in chunks over the next couple of days.
First installment includes updates on the XM107, the Semi-Auto Sniper Weapon System (SA-SWS), updates to the M249, Mk46 and Mk 48 machine guns, Shotguns, grenades, non-lethals, and the TOW Bunker Buster.
Download file
December 12, 2004
Did someone say Mosin?
We can do better, and we will, later.

Hi-res for you hi-bandwidth types, here.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Nice Nagants.
by
Bildo on December 12, 2004 8:36 PM
Ahem. 2nd and 3rd from the bottom are SVT40s, are they not? Which would make them Tokarevs, not Mosins.
Looking forward to hearing more about them all, though.
by Dr_Funk on December 12, 2004 9:18 PM
Congratulations to Dr. Funk for his keen eye. Sigh. Sniper. Hey, I get an email asking for Mosin pics, I put up a picture with Mosins. At least I post... slacker.
by
John of Argghhh! on December 13, 2004 6:27 AM
Come on, John. Any 12 year old playing Call of Duty: United Offensive can tell the difference between a Mosin and a SVT40. Never mind a 34 year old who plays it....
by Dr_Funk on December 13, 2004 6:44 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
November 7, 2004
Tidbits from the National Infantry Museum
Which, being full of guns, with grounds full of artillery and tanks, is one of the Armorers favorite places to visit. The Armorer doesn't want to move here, but he does like visiting!
In the rotating exhibit section, to the right of the entrance, there are some OIF and OEF exhibits. Saddam's hunting rifle and ceremonial sword are in great company. The collection of the Infantry museum holds other relics of tyranny, such as Himmler's hunting guns and Goering's marshall's baton.
American infantry have thrown down numerous tyrants in their day. Assisting and assisted by their brother Anglosphere infantry, I would hasten to add. And, now and again, French infantry, when their government allows it. Ably assisting in this effort, and acknowledged by the museum, are their fellow-travelers, the Artillery and Armor.
The museum contains furniture the Armorer would like to have. Especially this piece for the living room. She Who Will Be Obeyed will allow it becaue it has a lot of nice brass in it.
And boy is the museum full of interesting little tidbits. Two Davy Crocketts. Several items the Armorer would like to add to the Funny Hat collection.
Developmental. rifles. all. over.
Mortars. Funny cars. And guns, guns, guns. What's not to like?
There's even a train!
If you are ever in Columbus, go visit Ft. Benning. See the Airborne School - and above all, visit the National Infantry Museum!
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John--Just tell Beth the Gat is a rare New England horizontal candelabra, designed for gracious al fresco dining during those pesky nor'easters. =]
by cw4billt on November 7, 2004 2:23 PM
Actually - I was serious when I said SWWBO would approve of the Gatling Gun. She's already approved in principle (because of the brass 'n bronze) but she prefers the "camel" mount as it has a smaller footprint!
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John of Argghhh! on November 7, 2004 2:43 PM
That's a WW1 trench locomotive. Gauge was 60cm, nominally 2 foot. I have scale drawings of a lot of that equipment. In the popular military modeling scale of 1/35th, HO gauge track and components work out well.
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triticale on November 8, 2004 10:05 AM
I guess I'll have to visit Columbus one day.
In my opinion the museum in Erlbach, Luxemburg is the best war museum ever. Erlbach changed hands multiple times during WW2, and they just have more stuff than they know what to do with. However, your pictures from the National Infantry Museum have sure whetted my appetite.
I just found your blog. I'll be sure to check back often. Keep up the good work
by qoolalex on November 8, 2004 9:32 PM
I missed that one in all the years I've spent over there. Have to add that to the list, along with revisiting the Heeresgesichtliches Museum in Vienna, and Tankograd in Russia.
Hmmmm. Post fodder. Great military museums I have seen... and poll the readership for the ones I've missed...
by
John of Argghhh! on November 9, 2004 5:59 AM
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October 26, 2004
Gratuitous Gun Pic
Here, while I'm in photo-defilade, ponder the lines of the rifles of Russia, Finland, and Sweden. Since I currently can't edit pictures (due to high speed internet that isn't) here's a link, instead.
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I love the Nagant. Have 3 and looking for more.
by Stan on October 26, 2004 11:28 AM
I'm jealous. You have a bayonet for your SVT. I've never even seen such a thing, though I knew by implication that they must exist, since the rifle has a lug for one.
How much did it set you back?
by
Heartless Libertarian on October 26, 2004 11:35 AM
Man that's a lot of wood-stock. A different era for certain.
What is your opinion of the Nagant? There seems to be quite a rabid following of Nagant shooters; I've not had the experience so I'd like to know more first-hand information.
Dan Patterson
by Dan Patterson on October 26, 2004 12:17 PM
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September 27, 2004
You know you wanted it.
...but you didn't want to dig through the archives or visit the Castle. But you knew you wanted to take another look at a french Chassepot Needle Gun with Cartridge inserted. If only for a firearms moment of Zen...

Besides, some of you are new, and haven't seen this stuff at all!
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What's this? A picture of a French weapon after it's been dropped and it's owner heading to the rear?
by
Instapilot on September 27, 2004 11:33 PM
Aw, c'mon, Ip! It's a weird old weapon, and there are still plenty of brave Frenchmen, I just betcha they're grumbling into their vin 'cause they're not in charge. Reminds me of the time I made a fool of myself, in front of a serious, real collector, at the rifle collection at the Chickamauga battlefield park.
It's a good place to check out if yer ever in the North-Western corner of Georgia with time on your hands. They have a room there with what must be hundreds of different old rare rifles, and carbines, and muskets, oh my!
by Justthisguy on September 28, 2004 10:59 AM
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August 26, 2004
XM8 Rifle
Neil over at Digitus Finger & Co, pointed me to this article about the new Army rifle currently under development.
I thought I had already covered the topic - but it turns out that got lost in the shuffle. I did post a pic of the rifle I got via Murdoc Online.
But I hadn't yet posted this briefing. So, here it is. Click the pic to get to the whole thing.

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This is a 5.56 right? All I want to know is when my local gun store is going to be selling civilian versions.
by
Neil Uchitel on August 26, 2004 3:21 PM
Personally, I want the following:
FN-P90
Sterling
Sten (Mk II)
BREN (Mk I or II I care not)
Vickers MMG
FN-Mag (I have the mount, vehicle and sights, no farking gun because there's only 5 farking guns that are on the civilain NFA registry).
by Montieth on August 26, 2004 11:39 PM
I have your Brens and Stens. Albeit unshootable, I live in Kansas. If I lived 2000m east of here, across the river, they could be shootable - except then I couldn't afford 'em. Well, I could afford a STEN, but not a full-auto Bren or Vickers.
I wouldn't mind a Sterling. As for the FN90 and FN-MAG, there's always the high-end Air-Soft guns. Those are pretty nice, if, of course, emasculated.
by
John of Argghhh! on August 27, 2004 4:30 AM
WOW! You have a really cool site! I am a lady, and I don't know too much about what I am seeing, but I am impressed! I did try to enlist in the Navy in 1980, but I didn't pass the physical. I am a 2nd Amendment Right Defender. I admire our military immensely. As for you both being retired, that means you have already served. If case no one has said so, "Welcome home, and thank you for your service." Godspeed
by
Rosemary on September 3, 2004 11:48 PM
As the owner of a fist full of various Ar15’s I can honestly say I’m comfortable with the designee, in fact .. I love it! it makes a lot of sense to me and I can do just about any thing to my rifles with a few basic tools and a manual. I’ve never had any real problems that weren’t solved in a few seconds. Everything is more or less inexpensive for them, and better yet there’s hundreds of after market things you can get to really touch up that rifle just right for you.
On the other paw, those aren’t serious combat conditions either, so, if it’s fielded reliability is sub par, then I suppose it’s time to upgrade. Starting with the positive features first and foremost is the gas system, from what I’ve seen it looks like it’s based on the G36, which in turn has it’s roots in the AR18 I believe. It’s ergonomically designed, round ..as said to keep plants and junk from slowing you up. .. it has a sight package much like or identical to the G36, it uses the “weapon system” approach .... just like the G36 .. magazines inter lock, mag release, charging handle .. it’s all basically ambidextrous, and easy to clean.
The down side? .. well look at it, I grew up on a staple of Ar’s and Ak’s .. it looks like an over grown super soaker. Secondly, for as much as it steals from the G36, it isn’t a G36 .. What’s the big deal? .. why can’t we just use the G36? .. (Hehh, yeah I think they’d get some civilian versions of those out pretty quick too, and I really want one as if you couldn’t tell : ) it’s other down fall I can see is the stock ... I’m pretty skeptical about it, from the looks it seems like it just uses “dimples” to hold it in place, I think there’s some reliability issues there, I’ve always favored a rugged fixed style stock for inexperienced shooters, little to go wrong, hard for them to adjust it and get into bad shooting habits. 5.56 If we’re making a new rifle, then we need a need a new cartridge, my vote is for 6.8mm SPC :3
All in all, I’m not excited about ever owning one in the least, I’ll spend that money on more AR parts : ) but, it’s probably a good thing, after all look how many people hate the AR for no reason other then one little thing, aesthetics .. no mater how starship troopers inspired .. shouldn’t get in the way of reality : D
by Fox_Silverwing on January 26, 2005 3:34 AM
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August 14, 2004
Charley, Phelps, and Gratuitous Gun Pic
Today was get the college students restocked for a new year day.
Tammi of Road Warrior Survival and Jeff Quinton of Backcountry Conservative are blogging Hurricane Charley. (Bet the 'bigs' are annoyed by the immediacy of the bloggers, eh?)
I'm glad that thus far, no one I know was hurt.
Since others, closer to the action are taking care of the news today (well, I'll give Phelps a mention for his Gold and World Record in Swimming), I'll leave you with a gratuitous gun pic for your perusal. The Organ of Muskets (savor that, go ahead) at the Springfield Armory Museum. The Arsenal at Castle Argghhh! only dreams...

Click the pic for hi-res. I'll be back tomorrow to clean up some copyright issues and just maybe... something to do with mortars. If not that, well, I got something else up my sleeve.
August 12, 2004
Need gun-fix!
To tide you over while I work on the next magnum opii...
The Arsenal's Romanian AK broken down for cleaning after last Saturday's trip to the range.

If you are a download junky, click the pic for the hi-res.
June 18, 2004
Some more on weapons development.
This time, the XM107 Sniper rifle. Note to gun rights people: I know this brief plays into the hands of those who want to ban the .50 cal rifles altogether - the whole purpose of this rifle is long range materiel destruction. But before you excoriate me for posting it - they're already running with that meme and have this info. Save your typing skills for something else! This just gives you a window into how the Army does this stuff.
Click the pic to view the briefing.

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I want one...maybe two.
by
Chris Muir on June 18, 2004 12:39 PM
Or you can plunk down about $5500 and get a semi-auto only version of the M2. Sorry, corporate filters won't let me get into those sites, but they are legal ( at least federally ). Personally, I don't have the money for either. :(
by Chris Van Dis on June 18, 2004 2:00 PM
Here you go John, I saw ~~ this ~~ and thought you'd like it. In case you haven't seen it before. ;-)
Its from mASS BACKWARDS
On topic though, a 50 cal sniper weapon? Wow I had no idea. I want one too. 8^)
by Calliope on June 19, 2004 7:33 AM
Nice. REAL NICE.
by
SpaceMonkey on June 20, 2004 12:40 AM
Reminds me of my beloved Barrett in its design
by
BloodSpite on June 21, 2004 12:44 AM
Some questions I have now that I've had some sleep:
100 rd limit per day? I know as a sniper the chances of being in a extreme fire fight situation is minor how ever it has happened (Mogadishu, for example). You could hit that in a good day at the range training your team.
I saw that the weapon itself is cleared for airborne operations, but the scope is not. I saw that they are considering an alternative mount.
Thats a bit unerving.
A good tactical situation is to air drop a team in country and then evac after wards.
But no scope for a sniper, while not immpossible, amkes their job really hard.
Any thoughts?
by
BloodSpite on June 21, 2004 8:41 PM
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June 16, 2004
Just a coupla snippets.
Little bitty bits of some things going on in the soldier weapons world. New shotgun to attach under the M4 carbine barrel, and a new optic, better suited for close-combat fighting in cities - while still able to handle the long shooting tasks.
Just click the pic to go to the brief.

UPDATE: Something I meant to mention, that will only be noticed by those of us who have been on the combat/materiel development/procurement side of the house... In the third slide - it says TRADOC needs to approve the ORD, or Operational Requirements Document. ORDs are what *used* to formally start the process, in that they were a formal codification of the 'operational requirement' as laid out in the Mission Need Statement (MNS - pronounced 'mins') which was the true genesis of the project. There are two things that are noteworthy - we're getting the job done as we are supposed to, in that we are taking the request from the field and running with it, catching up on the paperwork later. Secondly, the ORD process and TRADOC's ability to manage them (manning and process issues) is still broke, and can't keep up. See OldFan's comment in the post below about the XM307 for a further discussion of that!
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this is great tool to add to a squad's kit. kudos to the material developers and the g-men who demanded this get priority.
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April 1, 2004
We needa gun pic!
Too much politics for one day! Here's another pic from the oft promised but not delivered ammo post...
Flintlock going home and knocking back the frizzen. More spark than it looks, but the flint needs dressing and adjusting.
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John,
I have just posted about a new game called FryCry. I think you will like the 6 screens I have posted at my photo blog.
by
Dave J on April 1, 2004 10:36 PM
Very nicely timed photo. I just love flintlocks. 1795 Springfield Type 2 ??
Tink
by Craig Baker on April 2, 2004 6:15 AM
It's actually a (repro) french musket - the model for the US version. I don't snap my real flintlocks - the locks are hard to get replacement parts for!
by
John of Argghhh! on April 2, 2004 8:16 AM
the flint needs dressing
What sort of dressing do you use on your flints? I like garlic ranch...
by
triticale on April 2, 2004 6:06 PM
I prefer a nice balsamic vinaigrette. Less greasy for some reason.
by
John of Argghhh! on April 2, 2004 6:12 PM
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March 24, 2004
Still working the ammo post.
To keep you vultures happy, here's a pic of an 1842 musket converted from flintlock to percussion. The brass is where the flintlock pan was removed - and the barrel around the nipple shows characteristic wear from lots of firing. No documentation to prove it, but this is probably a Civil War veteran, from one of the western regiments of the Union army. The rifle itself came out of an estate in Iowa.
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Springfield or Harpers Ferry? I can't tell from the picture.
by Dave on March 24, 2004 8:19 AM
And what's with the cut-out at the front of the hammer? Since the nipple appears to be off-center of the barrel, I don't think the hammer-notch serves as a rear sight (as on some of the Colt percussion pistols). Unless the barrel has some really bad bend to it.
by homebru on March 24, 2004 9:10 AM
suh-weet! Though I will stick to my Anschutz .22 for accuracy, I would love to have a piece of Americana,man!
by
Chris Muir on March 24, 2004 4:42 PM
Lesse... Springfield.
The notch is to provide relief for the gas expansion of the cap, so that the weak point is to the front, away from the firers face. Essentially provide an escape hatch. It has the equally important function of stress relief for the hammer, as well.
Chris - One of these rifles in good shape, combat conditions, not sniper/basement rifle range, I'll take ya.
by
John of Argghhh! on March 24, 2004 6:25 PM
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March 23, 2004
Gratuitous Gun Pic
Another data crash starts today, and I'm still working the second ammunition post (it's gonna be wordy, too, JD!). Here is a pic of the Swedes in the collection to keep you interested.
All the major variants of the Swedish Mauser save the M84 carbine and a sniper rifle. On the bottom is a Ljungman, the Swede M1. Very efficient little pepperpot muzzle break on that rifle - really annoying to the guy on your left and right!
March 22, 2004
JD Mays - this post's for you. No words.
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For the rest of you - now that I got my tease of JD outta the way - this is the bolt of the Chassepot needle-gun showing the needle protruding. Another one of the pics for the upcoming installment on ammunition. In that post, the needle will be zoomed on. Gotta give ya a reason to come back, right?
by
John of Argghhh! on March 22, 2004 4:53 AM
Shows how little I know. I was going to guess it was a Dreyse.
by
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March 20, 2004
As proof I am working on another ammo post...
...here's a 'screen shot' of one of the pics I've taken for the series.
The breech end of a Chassepot needle-gun, with a genuine Chassepot cartridge in the tray.
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out of idle curiousity, have you ever fired that thing? I've never seen one in the flesh (so to speak) .
by Dave on March 21, 2004 8:18 PM
No, I haven't fired it. For several reasons.
1. It has a notoriously bad gas seal, whether with leather washers or the rubber plug. This one, while it has the remnants of a plug, has no gas seal. The gas vents directly into the shooter's face!
2. The needle. One of the weaknesses of these guns is that the needle is exposed repeatedly to the heat of combustion of the powder. This makes them brittle over time and they fail. Needless to say, replacements are hard to come by.
3. The ammo. There is no shootable ammo available to my knowledge and the effort to develop a shootable form (the primer for these is contained in the base of the bullet - the needle punches through the linen and charge to get to the primer) combined with the gas seal problem mentioned earlier - dissuades me from trying!
4. Add all the above together - there's a reason the rifle was obsolete almost as soon as it was fielded!
by
John of Argghhh! on March 21, 2004 8:37 PM
Like I said, it was idle curiousity. I like oddball guns, but I REALLY like oddball guns that I can shoot. You're the first person I've ever ran across who has one of these silly things.
The gas seal alone would be enough to keep me from firing it. I had a minor accident with a .54 Sharps some years ago (powder on top of the breechblock) that made me a much more careful boy.
by Dave on March 22, 2004 10:53 AM
I understand completely. I am as interested in the history of (military) firearms development as I am in shooting them, so I own several weapons I either won't shoot for safety or wear & tear concerns and several that I haven't taken the time to try to develop a low power load for, like my Werndl, Sniders, and Martini's. I do have a .303 Martini that I have shot. I also have a "Khyber Pass" Martini-Enfield that is in some off-the-wall caliber. Someday I need to make a cast of the chamber and slug the bore. It's larger than a .303 or 8mm, smaller than a .57. While I have a fairly extensive cartridge selection from the era, nothing I have comes remotely close to fitting. Just need to take the time to cut a dowel and melt some lead to make a chamber cast.
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John of Argghhh! on March 22, 2004 3:22 PM
hmmm Martini Henry's... I've had the chance to buy several and was always too broke. I've not seen a Snider in ages. I always thought they were a better design than the Sprinfields converted to cartridge after the "late unpleasentness."
I've got a buddy with a repop Trapdoor that he's afraid to shoot live because it leaks around the breach so bad.
by Dave on March 22, 2004 7:43 PM
That must be one crappy repo that it leaks around a rimmed cartridge. And he shouldn't - if a rimmed cartridge is leaking, you've got to be pretty close to a blow-out of the case.
Still want a Snider? Enter Snider in the search window.
by
John of Argghhh! on March 22, 2004 8:04 PM
I saw those a couple of months ago, I would have REALLY loved to have gotten one of the 3 band Enfields, but I think they may be gone already. The main thing (besides $$) that stopped me was the fact that I like to handle 'em before I buy.
The Trapdoor I mentioned does have a serious problem. He bought it to take to Montana when they were filming Son of the Morning Star back in the 80's. As far as I know he's never used it for anything but blanks.
by Dave on March 22, 2004 9:52 PM
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March 15, 2004
Since I owe you guys a gun pic...
...and I'm working on new related post (on ammunition) I offer this as a palliative - but if you want a discussion of it, go to Murdoc Online, Glock-bandwidth sucker that he is, and give him some hits for the discussion of the subject (assuming you don't go there all the time anyway...) After all, Everyone is Entitled to His Opinion. It sez so on his masthead.
Hat Tip to CPT H for keeping me on the axis.
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Yowzah! That is a mighty fine rifle.
Is it wrong to get a warm tingly feeling when I see this picture?
by
Russell on March 15, 2004 4:51 PM
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March 5, 2004
Gratuitous Gun Pic
I'll take two, please.
Barret's 25mm "Payload Rifle". It's a .pdf article, so you'll need Acrobat Reader.
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March 3, 2004
More on rifle attachments.
The Commissar asks a question in a comment to the rifle pic below. The answer to his question leads to a new entry...
The Commissar had probably better stick to banking and aviation
history...
The sharp pointy things don't interfere with shooting, though the
design of the Beaumont bayonet does reflect the muzzle-loading era when the
bayonet had to be offset so that the soldier could load the weapon.
No, the only bad ju-ju for the rifles in this pic would be if the
soldier firing the rodded grenade got excited and used a bullet rather than
a blank. That would cause some excitement, with minimum a bulged
barrel, and if the barrel didn't burst (they are pretty strong) the wood
might still shatter at the bulge, which would annoy the soldier and his
compadres. It happened often enough anyway when launching rodded
grenades that rifles no longer suitable for accurate fire were taken and had
the stocks wrapped in wire to prevent just that from happening.
Like the top rifle in this photograph, which is a SMLE with grenade discharger cup attached:
The other rifles are also British, second one down a SMLE with wire-cutter attachment, the next a No 4 Mk 1 with spike bayonet, and the one below that a No 5 Mk 1 Jungle Carbine with bayonet.
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I'm waiting for a post about that water-cooled machine gun myself. I have a couple of questions about that thing. Like how did they keep the water part from freezing in the winter in France and Korea? What happened if it DID freeze? Was it unuseable? And how hard is it to maintain with water and all - did it rust etc? And what the heck did they do...carry big cans of water around to pour in it? And did the water evaporate...or was it a closed system, and if it was closed how did that work? I assume it didn't have a pump. Does it have a radiator? Does the water just sit in that big...what is it anyway a cylinder surrounding the barrel? What rate of fire could they maintain before it got too hot?
I've just never understood the use of water around a firearm like that.
by Calliope on March 4, 2004 5:45 AM
Guess I didn't cover that in my post about the Maxim. I'll cover most of it in a series on the Vickers.
Short answer though... in the order you asked em: They didn't. They drained 'em and filled 'em as they needed to. The soviets modified theirs so they could stuff snow in the jacket.
if it was full, the jacket would expand and sometimes crack - but you never kept them FULL, just about half-full in winter. Plenty of room.
No. Normal maintenance against rust. Just more of it.
Yes. Any water will do. It doesn't have to be drinkable.
Yes, the water evaporates. You leave about a quarter of the water in the can, stick the end of the hose under the water, the steam condenses back into the can. When the can is over half-full, pour it back into the jacket.
No radiator - see previous paragraph. The water just sits in the water jacket. As long as they could keep it supplied with water and bullets, they could fire at the max rate of the weapon. The limiting factor there is barrel life. In tests the Vickers fired some ridiculous number of hours continuously (I'd have to look it up) stopping only to change barrels. with water cooling, you don't have to change barrels as often, and can keep firing at the max rate of fire.
by
John of Argghhh! on March 4, 2004 6:17 AM
There are also rumors of other fluids being used in emergencies, but the nasty smell of hot urine does not go away after rinsing.
by
triticale on March 5, 2004 7:29 AM
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Just to wash your eyeballs...
...from all the political stuff below, a gratuitous gun pic.
Top rifle is a Dutch Beaumont-Vitali, next is a Danish Krag-Jorgenson.
After those are a SMLE with the grenade discharger cup for supporting the rodded Mills Bomb, followed by a SMLE with a .22 cal Morris Aiming Tube (brass bit in the muzzle) training device installed, and on the bottom an Italian Vetterli rifle.
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Don't those sharp pointy things at the end get in the way when the gun goes bang?
by
The Commissar on March 3, 2004 9:07 AM
The Commissar had probably better stick to banking and aviation history...
The sharp pointy things don't interfere with shooting, though the design of the Beaumont bayonet does reflect the muzzle-loading era when the bayonet had to be offset so that the soldier could load the weapon.
No, the only bad ju-ju for the rifles in this pic would be if the soldier firing the rodded grenade got excited and used a bullet rather than a blank. That would cause some excitement, with minimum a bulged barrel, and if the barrel didn't burst (they are pretty strong) the wood might still shatter at the bulge, which would annoy the soldier and his compadres. It happened often enough anyway when launching rodded grenades that rifles no longer suitable for accurate fire were taken and had the stocks wrapped in wire to prevent just that from happening.
by
John of Argghhh! on March 3, 2004 9:38 AM
Oh man. I want one of those with the grenade thing and the bayonet on the end...
by Calliope on March 3, 2004 11:30 AM
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February 20, 2004
Speaking of remodeling houses...
...since there seem to be several bloggers in the throes of that as we are at Castle Argghhh!. I wonder, if I can either rebuild the current Castle Argghhh! or find a new one of sufficient size, if the SWWBO, Mistress of Argghhh! will allow me this for furniture...
This is the "Organ of Muskets" at Springfield Armory - this is how muskets were stored after build/rebuild awaiting issue. I want. I want. Too bad it's the only surviving one, so I can't have it.
Waaaaah!
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The Museum of the Royal Arsenal in Copenhagen, Denmark, used to (might still) have a section of one the floors of it's 17th century arsenal building that still had rack upon rack of old rifles. Along with all the other gear, as if it was ready for a regiment to walk in and pick it up.
Very cool.
The rest of museum is way fun if you like military hardware too.
fRed
by
fsd on February 20, 2004 3:43 PM
You gun loving pervert.
by Calliope on February 20, 2004 5:33 PM
Piffle! I toured the Pattern Room (two floors). And had a look through the Library.
(Snicker)
Cheers
JMH
by J.M. Heinrichs on February 20, 2004 8:29 PM
I've been to the Pattern Room, too. I've also been through both floors of the Springfield Armory museum.
What's yer point? Where is Canada's equivalent, he asked with a superciliously curled lip?
And FSD - I've added the Royal Arsenal at Copenhagen to the list of places to visit (I have a couple of their products in the Collection) Right up there with the Belgian military museum in Brussels and the HeeresGesichtliches Museum in Austria! I guess while I'm putting in the wish list, I still need to get to Bovington and St Cyr, too. That doesn't even begin to touch on the Russian museums!
Calliope - that's the nicest thing anyone has typed to me all day!
by
John of Argghhh! on February 21, 2004 8:30 AM
If you really want a bigger house, mine, 4800 sf plus basement and coach house, will be going on the market sometime this year. The first carloads of stuff will get hauled to our other place, with only 12 rooms, this weekend.
by
triticale on February 21, 2004 9:46 AM
Well, sadly, while Beth might be able to manage it, since she's been traveling almost exclusively, it would be a bit of a commute for me!
by
John of Argghhh! on February 21, 2004 11:19 AM
Well, there's Vimy House in Ottawa. It houses the big toys which don't fit in the Natioal War Museum downtown. As for small arms, there is the collection in Fort Frederic at the Royal Military college in Kingston; it is the collection of presentation pieces given to President Porfirio Dias of Mexico, lots of glitter.
\http://www.rmc.ca/other/museum/collect_e.html#douglas
Cheers
JMH
by J.M. Heinrichs on February 21, 2004 9:50 PM
Ha! Tricked you into revealing secrets! Now I have a list of places to go to.
Did Mexico give that stuff back, or what?
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John of Argghhh! on February 22, 2004 8:07 AM
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February 9, 2004
Gratitous Gun Pic
Too busy this morning for anything else - gratuitous gun pic to keep you animals calm. Mostly Soviet Mosins and Tokarevs with a Finn M39, and a couple of Swedes finding their way into the picture...
February 6, 2004
Interested in where they are going with the new soldier weapons?
Here's an edited briefing on the current 'way-ahead' for the XM29 system. Armament geeks - enjoy!
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January 20, 2004
I'm so pleased with the caucuses yesterday...
That I'm going to post a gratuitous gun pic. Yeah, you've seen this one before - but so what? The newbies haven't, unless they've been going through the archives (hint, hint). For you regulars, I'll do a pistol tonight!
And maybe a funny-looking helmet!
January 16, 2004
And for you guys who were into the french stuff yesterday...
(aren't all men into 'french stuff?')
Here is the upper portion of the French wall.
On top, a Chassepot, the french 'needle gun'.
Then the Gras, the cartridge conversion.
Then the Kropatschek, the inspiration for the Lebel.
Then a M1907/15 Berthier/Lebel.
Then two versions of the Berthier carbine... and since I'm in a hurry I have of course forgotten the nomenclatures! Wait - M1916!
And last, if the R35 carbine version of the M1886 Lebel rifle - which is in yesterday's pic.
Update: As I slip into "French Bashing" here now and again, I should make something clear. Unlike many of my fellow-travelers, I respect the individual French soldier for his individual courage, endurance, and willingness to risk all for his people. But I have little respect for the governments and senior military leaders (there are exceptions, GEN Gamelin, for example was trying very hard to modernize the french army prior to WWII) who lead/misused and abused those soldiers. So, in short, where I make (or let stand unchallenged) the old "only dropped once" kind of comments, I am intending it as a slap on the leaders, not the led. The French High Command and political leadership of WWI (like the Brits, frankly) were unworthy of the sacrifice they demanded of their soldiery.
Dans le Français traduit par ordinateur :: Pendant que je glisse dans l'"Français frappant" ici de temps en temps, je devrais rendre quelque chose de clair. À la différence de plusieurs de mes camarade-voyageurs, je respecte le soldat français individuel pour que son courage, résistance, et bonne volonté individuels risque tous pour ses personnes. Mais je fais respecter peu pour les gouvernements et les chefs militaires aînés (il y a les exceptions, GEN Gamelin, par exemple essayait très dur de moderniser l'armée française avant WWII) qui lead/misused et maltraité ces soldats. Ainsi, en bref, où je fais (ou laissez le stand incontesté) le vieux "seulement une fois laissé tomber" genre de commentaires, je le prévois comme claque sur les chefs, pas mené. La commande élevée française et la conduite politique de WWI (comme le Brits, franchement) étaient indignes du sacrifice qu'elles ont exigé de leur soldiery.
January 15, 2004
Another gratuitous gun pic.
One thing I have to say about my french rifles (most of which went from France to Arab nations, and then into the surplus market) is that despite the number of users and wars the users fought in - the weapons are in pretty good shape. Compared, say, to german, british, and russian weapons (though the arsenal reworks are nice).
Here's the lower part of my "French Wall".
Just partially visible is a Berthier M1916 rifle.
That's followed my a M1883/M93/R35 Lebel, with the correct short bayonet.
Next is a pre-war MAS M1936 that got the post-war rework (for you grognards out there who know what you are looking at!)
Next is a Syrian contract MAS 49. Anybody having the french version and do not want it anymore, drop me a line... if you don't know the difference, the french version does not have the integral bayonet - that is a feature of the Syrian rifles.
That's followed by a MAS 36/LG48, a post-war MAS 36 with an integral grenade launcher.
Last, but not least, the MAS 49/56 a product-improved MAS 49, and the first rifle in a long time for the french that had a blade bayonet rather than a cruciform spike.
Cheers, all - off to the Evil Squirrel's Nut Mines.
Update: As I slip into "French Bashing" here now and again, I should make something clear. Unlike many of my fellow-travelers, I respect the individual French soldier for his individual courage, endurance, and willingness to risk all for his people. But I have little respect for the governments and senior military leaders (there are exceptions, GEN Gamelin, for example was trying very hard to modernize the french army prior to WWII) who lead/misused and abused those soldiers. So, in short, where I make (or let stand unchallenged) the old "only dropped once" kind of comments, I am intending it as a slap on the leaders, not the led. The French High Command and political leadership of WWI (like the Brits, frankly) were unworthy of the sacrifice they demanded of their soldiery.
Dans le Français traduit par ordinateur :: Pendant que je glisse dans l'"Français frappant" ici de temps en temps, je devrais rendre quelque chose de clair. À la différence de plusieurs de mes camarade-voyageurs, je respecte le soldat français individuel pour que son courage, résistance, et bonne volonté individuels risque tous pour ses personnes. Mais je fais respecter peu pour les gouvernements et les chefs militaires aînés (il y a les exceptions, GEN Gamelin, par exemple essayait très dur de moderniser l'armée française avant WWII) qui lead/misused et maltraité ces soldats. Ainsi, en bref, où je fais (ou laissez le stand incontesté) le vieux "seulement une fois laissé tomber" genre de commentaires, je le prévois comme claque sur les chefs, pas mené. La commande élevée française et la conduite politique de WWI (comme le Brits, franchement) étaient indignes du sacrifice qu'elles ont exigé de leur soldiery.
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Great set of French guns. Let me guess, never been fired, only dropped once, right?
Steve
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MrSpkr on January 15, 2004 7:55 AM
Given their pedigrees, they may have been dropped more than once, expecially after passing out of French hands.
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John of Argghhh! on January 15, 2004 9:52 AM
The French have a real talent for designing ugly rifles.
by Fred Boness on January 16, 2004 2:56 AM
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January 14, 2004
Gratuitous gun pic
I've been bad. Busy busy busy. Remodeling the house. Gout (note to self, can't have any more large steaks, sigh. Entropy sucks). Cleaning the next room in prep for moving the remodel to that room. Then there is the whole "analyzing the Army of the Future" job thing I do to fund all that stuff. Oh, and today it's "Unclog the kitchen drain stack". Po' po' pitiful me.
Which means you haven't been getting pictures. And I know what drives my hit-o-meter.
So, here is a pic from the archives:
The top three rifles are my Commission 88s. They happen to have been covered in this space- here.
Next under is the Italian Vetterli M1871, which was the Italian's first cartridge arm adopted in any numbers.
In order below that are most of my SKS's. On top, Albanian. From the way the receiver is machined, it looks like the Albanians used Chinese machinery. They added their own touches, like the extended forearm wood and a cocking handle based on the AK. Under that is a Soviet 1951 dated rifle. Followed by a Chinese military (not one of the bajillions produced for sale in the US, but an earlier, fully machined, martially marked rifle). Next under that is an early Chinese SKS, made with mixed Soviet/Chinese parts, that is marked to a militia unit. Next under (and last) is my Romanian rifle. Not pictured is a 1954 dated Soviet and my Yugo. Speaking of Yugos - that's a Kosovo-capture Yugo flag hanging behind the rifles.
Obviously, there needs to be an SKS Gun P0rn series!
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
A coworker of mine has an SKS with the fold-under bayonet. When he uses it as his deer rifle, he unfolds the blade to stick in the ground and hold the muzzle above the snow when he sets the gun down.
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triticale on January 14, 2004 10:41 AM
Having done that myself... the are some issues of stability, but - I've long thought that putting a notch on the bottom of the cam would give you a much steadier rest.
Problem? What most people don't know about rifles with integral bayonets is that they are factory sighted to be shot with the bayonet extended. This is especially true of Soviet weapons. They proceeded from the assumption that infantry always went into a fight with bayonets fixed/extended, and sighted the rifles for that. It makes a surprising difference, hanging that weight at the muzzle.
So, if you are hunting with your SKS and taking longer shots, decide where you want the bayonet and adjust that front sight accordingly.
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John of Argghhh! on January 14, 2004 11:19 AM
John, what is the histroy behind the SKS?
Hmm, maybe you should do a 'special' on it!
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Russell on January 14, 2004 2:53 PM
Russ - apparently you didn't get past the picture... 8^)
I'll add your vote to the SKS P0rn list!
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John of Argghhh! on January 14, 2004 3:11 PM
Ack! No, I didn't.
Too, ah, focused on the picture indeed!
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Russell on January 15, 2004 12:53 PM
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January 13, 2004
Starship Troopers, here we come!
The Army has spent a lot of money in the last 40 years on Tankers, Mech Grunts, Flyboys, Flag Wavers, Gun Bunnies, and Log Toads. So, of course, we find ourselves in a light infantry combat environment. We needed all the other stuff to get ourselves to this point, that is not really intended as a sharp criticism. We have been increasing our spending on Crunchies (light infantry, so-called because that's the sound they make when run over by tanks) in a trend that started before OEF/OIF.
DARPA is working on combat suits that will 'enhance' a soldier's performance and endurance.
And now, we have serious proposals for laser rifles. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you theT1S1.
Hat tip to Mike L. for the pointer!
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Stavatti has a picture of their Global Headquarters (or whatever they want to call it) on their website.
by Fred Boness on January 15, 2004 4:01 AM
As Fred points out, not a very prepossessing corporate HQ, in what appears to be a old WWII-style expansion building...
After having looked at it some more, and chatted with other people... this may be a serious submission by this company, and just because you don't have a snazzy building does not mean you don't have a snazzy idea - but
Engineering practicalities and costs aside, it will take some doing to get a soldier to go into battle (a place where things break, a lot) armed with a weapon that gets its power from a radioactive source.
Still, at least people are thinking outside the box!
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John of Argghh! on January 15, 2004 5:27 AM
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January 9, 2004
Some interesting tidbits in history today...
1861 1st Shot of the Civil War: Star of the West fired on outside
Charleston when she attempted to take supplies to the garrison of Ft. Sumter.
1861 Mississippi becomes 2nd state to secede
1936 M-1 Garand semi-automatic rifle adopted by the US Army - Patton described it thusly "The M1 was the finest battle implement ever devised." That rifle made our infantry the envy of everybody else.
Hat tip to Strategy Page!
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
I'd be consumed with lust if I didn't already own one.
Aw, heck, I still lust after the Garand. I have room for 3 or 4 more....
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Russ on January 9, 2004 9:05 AM
Okay, John, normally I don't comment as I am not much of a gun pErv, but I'm drooling here...great pics!
There's nothing like the "CRACK!" of a garand. I'm talking sound here, people.
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Blackfive on January 9, 2004 10:54 AM
Sweetness. I own two, a misc. parts assembled rifle, and a Korean war vintage National Match. I think you can still get them through the DCM.
by Chris Van Dis on January 9, 2004 11:16 AM
There is something almost mystical about the M1 Garand.
And awe inspiring. America ingenuity at work!
Here we are into the budding dawn of the 21st century, and we still drool over this rifle.
From Keats' Endymion :
"A thing of beauty is a joy for ever:
Its loveliness increases; it will never
Pass into nothingness;"
I doubt Keats had this badass rifle in mind, but the sentiment still works!
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Russell on January 9, 2004 3:16 PM
....and I remember the time when I found out what all the hoop-la was about an "M-1 thumb".
Yowwwwwwwch!!!
by TrooperJohnSmith on January 9, 2004 7:57 PM
John Garand, another Canadian "export".
Cheers
JMH
by J.M. Heinrichs on January 10, 2004 9:14 PM
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December 15, 2003
New Gun P0rn™!
Finally got over my funk about messing around with the camera and shootin' irons. I've got several projects in the works, but I've been neglecting my primary customer base. So here's some new Gun P0rn™!
Today for your viewing pleasure... a rifle with some history. My battlefield capture Japanese Type 99 rifle.
Here's something to tide you over while I work on the rest of the post! Yeah, that's my M2 Carl Gustaf holding up the blanket back there. I was doing some work on Carl and was too lazy to move him out of the way...
This particular rifle was brought back from the Battle For Conical Hill by Corporal Frank Huggins of the 383rd Infantry Regiment, 96th Infantry Division. I obtained it, sadly, after his passing, from his widow in Lawton, OK, so I am unable to provide any more detail than that. I wish I had the chance to talk to CPL Huggins!
The rifle came complete, in ways that you usually don't see in Japanese rifles.
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The japanese Imperial Mum on the receiver is unground, usually (but not always) a sign of battlefield capture. At the end of the war and after, US military authorities allowed the japanese to grind off the Mums on their weapons, so as not to dishonor the Emperor.
This rifle also has the monopod, intended to help steady it while in the prone position.
Here is another usually-missing feature - the anti-aircraft 'lead' wings for the sights. Using the notch on these wings gave the soldier some ability to 'lead' an aircraft when volley firing. No records exist that I'm aware of detailing the use of the wings - and all things considered, I doubt they were much use without an awful lot of practice.
Yet another usually missing feature - the dust cover. Note also the distinctive oval shape to the bolt handle. Can anyone name the Mauser-pattern military rifles with oval bolt handles?
The Japanese experience beating up on the Chinese in the 1930's convinced them (like the Italians) that they needed a more powerful cartridge than the 6.5mm they were then using. They decided on a .303 rimless round already developed from the Brit rimmed round and used in the M1932 medium machine gun. Rather than develop a carbine - their first intention, they developed a 'short' and a 'long' rifle. The experiments with carbines showed they were too much a recoil monster for the average japanese infantryman. Having fired the Brit .303 "jungle carbine" I can only imagine what a relative feather merchant would feel like after that thing kicked his shoulder! This rifle came late into the war, and was not widely encountered until the final battles - one reason this one is in such relative good shape.
Put the pigsticker on it, and the japanese soldier could negate some of the 'reach' advantage of his american counterpart - not that it mattered in the end.
Well, there you have it - a little bit of history, and a little bit of gun. I'm tired. Took the spousal unit to the airport today at 0430 (that's 4:30AM in NG time, Donnie). Unlike the Bejus Pundit, I'm surrendering to my old fart status. He can have the windmills - and the Towers!
Ya know, after the Guard combat brigades start their rotations over to the sandboxes, we're gonna hafta stop a lot of the Guard jokes. But only some. You only know we love you if we abuse you.
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November 14, 2003
Boer Mauser
Kim du Toit dropped in yesterday (electronically, not in person) to check out the bar where my Boer Mauser hangs. Since he was not surprisingly interested in it, I thought I'd post a few more pictures that ya'll can take a gander at. This is a M1896 Mauser made by Ludwig Loewe in Berlin. Many of these rifles never made it to the Orang Vrije Staat (Orange Free State) because the war started before they were shipped. Most (or many) of those rifles were eventually re-sold to Chile.
Not this one. He made it to the fight. Unfortunately (from a Boer perspective), the only reason we know that is because he was captured.
That's because the bridge of his receiver is marked S.A.T. 515. South African Trophy, #515, a New Zealand Army property mark. This rifle was brought to the US a few years ago - and being an antique, it didn't have to have an import stamp.
Here's a close-up of his receiver.
He has a straight bolt, though these rifles can be found with both bent and straight. He's also in the wrong stock (which is not unusual). He's in I believe an M1895 Spanish stock which is thicker than the original. Anyone have a spare M1896 stock, I'm interested. Chilean ones work too - though I would prefer one without cartouches, as I am reluctant to remove markings like that!
If you are a real geek, you can see in the pic that the stock is wider than the upper hand-guard. The rifle is also missing the slider on the range ladder, so I'm hunting one of those, too.
This is one reason I got into collecting. Regardless of what you think about the cause in which this rifle was usedn (or a Nazi rifle, or a Confederate rifle, or a commie weapon), you can get a real sense of connection to history (at least I can) by seeing, handling, caring for, and shooting these old guys.
Anyway Kim, this one's for you!
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Aaaaaargh!
My sources back in S. Africa tell me that a genuine Boer Mauser can fetch well in excess of $2,000 over there -- not Rands, $US -- and I want one in memory of my great-great granddad, who fought against the British in 1881 AND 1899.
Let me know.
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Kim du Toit on November 14, 2003 11:58 PM
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November 12, 2003
I got an email from a GFW* today.
There I am at work, slaving to catch up to Bill Gates, when I decide to take a break, surf a blog or two (yeah, I've got that kind of job!) and check my email.
In it was a missive from a stunned GFW who apparently wandered into Castle Argghhh! by mistake and thought he had entered a house of horrors.
After the normal spluttering about how could something like my collection *possibly* be legal, he lowered the boom, after reading my Blackfive and Madfish Willie post.
"But quite aside from the frightening overdose of obvious over-compensation and excess hostility displayed in your "collection" and your "writing" I simply cannot believe you openly display a GUN IN YOUR KITCHEN, RIGHT ABOVE ALCOHOL!!!! How irresponsible is that? ANYONE can gain access to that gun and hurt someone! If you have children, you should be reported to Child Welfare!" (emphasis in original)
Well, gee. Lessee. What to do, what to do. I know! I'll post a picture of the bar!

See? Evil, ain't it? First off, I doubt there are too many critters who know what caliber a Boer mauser fired. And happen to be carrying rounds with them. Mine are in a safe, elsewhere in the house. So, I guess he could club me with it. Of course, while he's trying to swing a rifle around in the kitchen, I'm carving back with a butcher knife, and WonderWife is grabbbing the Trench Gun.
Or, maybe just the ClueBat®.The only kid at home is 18. Being law-abiding, he'd go for an SKS from the selection here, eschewing a handgun until he's 21. But then, being in college, he isn't home much. Then there are the dogs to consider, as well.
And a knowledgeable thief isn't going to screw with a very rare rifle (verified Boer trophy piece from New Zealand) and screw up his chance to sell it.
So, like as not, I'm going to take the rifle from a critter and beat him with it. If only to save him from Wonderwife®, who will probably reduce him to so much hamburger for screwing with HER KITCHEN!
Anyway, Eric, this Margarita's for you - and the unknown Boer who carried this rifle, and the Kiwi who captured it. Now, if all you want to do is lecture, don't bother visiting the Castle, either in person or in digits. But, if ya want a history lesson like I was doling out on Veteran's Day and other days, pull up a chair, I'll pour the first one. But bring a bottle or two - the collection ain't as expensive as it looks, but it ain't cheap, either!
Oh, yeah. WonderWife® will tell you there is no compensating or overcompensating - at all. Ask her.
Of course, I might have to wire it to the mounts if I ever invite the Corner of the Bar Gang over. Sheesh, even that pussified Marine might be dangerous!
*Gun Fearing Wussy.
UPDATE: How many of you noticed the brass tumbler on the table next to the bar? Ooooo! Reloading components! Call in the Black Helos!
Another Update: WonderWife™ doesn't like GFWs.
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WTF!?! Gun Fearing Wussy?...hehee...DANG! This is some kind of CONSPIRACY!! You and Madfish are up to something! I think the fact that you have an "Arsenal of Doom" is great...hell, I've got an "Arsenal of Pretty Scary Guns" started already at MY house..no full-auto, and no mortars though.. Whoever emailed you was not THIS "pussified Marine"!
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Eric on November 12, 2003 6:50 PM
Oh, I knew that - it's just your luck that this wusses' name was Eric. I was referring to your post... as for GFW, that's an Official Kim du Toit moniker.
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John of Argghhh! on November 12, 2003 6:57 PM
hehe..GREAT, so what you are tellin' me is that I've got a GFW name...man, I KNEW I should have went by David instead...HA!
Great post, by the way, looks like Madfish Willie's Saloon is roaring tonight..hell, I'll buy you a drink...
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Eric on November 12, 2003 7:05 PM
St John: Nice dry bar! Cool weapons too!
by
The Bartender on November 12, 2003 7:21 PM
Dammit! I've been running my blog for six months now, and not one GFW has e-mailed me.
What's a guy gotta do?
by
Kevin Baker on November 12, 2003 8:01 PM
Kevin - I dunno. I think this guy came in from a Google search for something unrelated (gay porn, probably... that 'military guy' thing gets me some hits that way!).
Gee. I'm being mean, eh?
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John of Argghhh! on November 12, 2003 8:04 PM
John,
Feel free to use the GFW term as often as you wish.
And MAN I am envious of that Boer Mauser, for obvious reasons. What's the going price on a decent one, these days?
by
Kim du Toit on November 13, 2003 3:26 PM
Kim-
For a boogered one like mine (incorrect stock) $300-450. For a good complete one, $500-700. For an OVS-marked one, $1200+. For an OVS-marked, Boer-carved stock... whatever the market will bear.
I'm searching for a proper M1893 stock. I'll settle for spanish cartouches, but I'd prefer a bare one, as per the Boer rifle. Chilean cartouche is also acceptable as many OVS marked rifles found their way to Chile, failing delivery to the Boers.
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John of Argghhh! on November 13, 2003 4:19 PM
Kevin - you may not have gotten a GFW, but you are on the Puppy-Blender's blogroll... I'm envious!
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John of Argghhh! on November 13, 2003 4:20 PM
John,
I find I have to agree with your correspondent. It is highly irresponsible of you to display a firearm in your kitchen near alcohol.
A flash fire could erupt at any moment and damage the finish on the stock.
Now get to drinking it up or I'll report you to Gun Welfare.
by Moriarty on November 14, 2003 12:42 AM
My only grouse is that the rifle doesn't seem to go with the furniture. I think an external hammer double shotgun ( or rifle if you have the money for that) would compliment the curves of the bar better. That Mauser would go nicely with a mission style bar. And some African antelope head mounts, gotta have a couple of those.
by Chris Van Dis on November 14, 2003 6:58 AM
Oh, my! Style nazis! Hmmmm. Only problem with that is that I don't collect that kind of gun. I'm pretty much a strictly military kind of guy, and except as private purchase hunting weapons brought on campaign, soldiers didn't use those. But I'll take that under advisement as a COA in case an external hammer weapon falls in my lap somehow.
I will accept donations, if anyone has one they don't want.
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John of Argghhh! on November 14, 2003 8:29 AM
Your OK.
It is nice to see an S.A.T..
by pwebdoc on December 8, 2003 8:07 PM
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October 14, 2003
A picture to please BradySchumerStein...
...because the weapons represented are in what would be their favorite mode for 'red state' voters, emasculated.
Photo
On top, in the background is the receiver area for a WWII-era Browning M1919 MG instructional cut-away. Yes, much larger than life. It's functional and complete, less the baseboard and the belt w/plastic bullets. Anyone know of some big red plastic bullets laying around, lemme know!
To the right of that is the butt of the DEWAT M1908 Madsen LMG, with the monopod for sustained fire.
Next in from from that, still on the right, the DEWAT M1919A6 is peeking his head up.
Next in is the DEWAT BAR. I may still yet spring for one of Ohio Ordnance's semi's.
In the center is a cut-away SMLE No1MkIII*. This is a beautifully done job.
The long wood thing is the haft of my saxon battle axe. The steel shaft is the haft of me swedish warhammer. Both of which can be seen to better effect here, along with the pretty SMLE cut-away and an australian armorers cut away, that had to have the barrel replaced to bring it into the country. Even though it wasn't shootable as-is, ATF still classifies the receiver as functional (not me, baby!) and therefore the overall length was too short.
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In case anyone has noticed, yes, John's toys are pretty crowded together. We need lots more space for the collection.
Maybe I'll have him put in a tip jar to go towards buying an addition to the house.
by
Beth on October 14, 2003 9:21 AM
Better put it on your site dear, linked from mine. Otherwise it will just result in more clutter!
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John of Argghhh! on October 14, 2003 11:38 AM
Why not put all the good stuff in a very cheap mobile trailer out behind your house..... ;)
by Gunner on October 14, 2003 8:15 PM
Hmmm. Gunner, I'm gonna keep an eye on you! 8^) You need to reread the Goblin Warning!
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John of Argghhh! on October 14, 2003 8:44 PM
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October 8, 2003
In honor of Dem defeat yesterday, let's do a gun pic!
Okay, here's stuff on the 'overflow' wall.

Alrighty then, from the top - a real scary one! Barely visible is a SMLE capable of firing grenades AND having the bayonet mounted at the same time! In fact, in order to loft grenades, you HAVE to have the bayonet mounted. I'm sure we'll be seeing these versatile weapons in the hands of gangs soon.
Next is another SMLE, this one fitted with a Parker-Hale target site, and acting as a holder for one of the bayonets. Below that is an Italian Vetterli-Vitali, one of the earlier magazine fed bolt guns. Below that is a Turkish Berthier carbine. Under that is a Savage-made Lend Lease No4 MKI, with spigot-type grenade launcher, and a brit version of the M31 grenade (light blue, inert dummy trainer), below that is a Long Branch (Canadian) No4Mk1, which, paradoxically, has a Savage bayonet on it. Next is the Japanese Type 94, complete, mum intact, monopod, aa sight wings. Battlefield capture, and marked by it's captor!
Bringing up the rear,a CE 42 Mauser, and last, but not least, a danish Madsen rifle. This one is Columbian, with the inletted disk. Madsen seemed to have a market analysis problem, producing a bolt-action rifle in 30.06 after WWII when the market was flooded with surplused arms, and everyone was going to semi/full auto with smaller cartridges. Didn't sell well.
Sorry for some of the cryptic descriptions - intended for the geeks who know this stuff. I'd explain better, but I have to hit the shower and go to work. Feel free to ask questions!
October 6, 2003
Okay, one pic before I head out.
This is a shot of my 81mm mortar, with the fancy sights, also used on artillery. Note the weld in the tube. (Can't shoot, LE/Shocked anti-gun persons!) I also don't have a base cup for it, though I'm making one (no firing pin, BATFE-types). The grey thing on the right is a Canadian 3inch training mortar. The bottom is cut out so that the round, when dropped, falls at your feet. Keeps the crew in position, too. 3inch mortar rounds are heavy.
You can also see the breech of the 57mm M18 Reckless Rifle to the left. Behind, from top to bottom are a US 3.5 inch bazooka with inert round, a PLO RPG-7 (thats a 7, no suffix, meaning iron sights, no rail for the scope). There's a B-40 rocket stuck in it because I hadda put the rocket somewhere. Next is a brit Mark X fencing musket, which is a spring-loaded pogo stick you used in bayonet training. next under is a Czech M98/22 Mauser. Barely visible between the M18 and the mortar is the front barrel-band of a Czech VZ-24 mauser. Next is an Egyptian FN-49 (not a Century hash job for those who know what I mean), and finally, one of my various variants of the Brit SMLE. Ya can barely see the next thing, which is a Swift Training Rifle, also Brit.
See ya later!

September 30, 2003
Mo Guns, Mo' Betta.
Y'all got stiffed on a gun pic yesterday. Tough. Life intrudes sometimes. As does my ever-expanding universe of goofs with Moveable Type. Which ain't MT's fault. It's operator headspace and timing. Like the big post that I just blew away...
Anyway, here 'tis yer new pic for the day.

This is my 'Murican wall. The sharp-eyed among ya will notice three furrin' weapons in the pic. At top, a M1763 Charleville musket, 3rd from the top, a French Model 1802 flintlock converted to percussion, and ninth down, a M1910 Ross. The french provided 23000 stands of Charleville muskets to the Continental army during the revolution. The first US musket produced at Springfield Arsenal (pics of museum here), the M1795, was based on the Charleville. This one is a repro - I don't have the bucks for a real one. Fun to shoot though. The M1802s were provided to both the North and South during the War of North/South Grumpiness. There is no provenance for this gun, so let's assume it's Union (so no point in trying to steal it, goblins). The Ross is one of 20,000 or so that were bought by the US gov't for training during the early days of WWII, and is US Ordnance marked.
Skipping on down, the second rifle is a US M1842 percussion conversion, number 4 is a Remington Zouave (note to goblins - a repro), followed by a M1872 Springfield Trapdoor, then a US-marked Remington Rolling Block. They are out of chronological order because of bayonet length interfering with the shelves. They are followed by a M1895 Krag, M1903 Springfield, the Ross, and on the bottom, a M1917 Enfield, built at Eddystone. I have a Vivien-Bessiere grenade launcher for that rifle. There's more down below, but that's a pic for another day.
Chatter away.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Hey, is that an old 45-70 (5th gun down) if so....we have one...we love to shoot it.....but our sights are very shaky (the screws have been striped) i was wondering if u knew of any steps we could take in fixing them...or if we should even fix them at all?....
by John Harison on February 12, 2004 9:54 AM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
September 28, 2003
Time to make Babs Boxer barf, and Chuck Schumer spew.
My SKS's, less the Albanian: Top to bottom, Soviet early SKS, Chinese Army SKS, Chinese "Wind River Militia" SKS (ideographs on stock), Soviet late model SKS and a Romanian. That's a Turk M93 Mauser on the bottom. RPG-2 hanging on the right. Yugo M48 Mauser on the left. That is a Kosovo-capture Yugo flag hanging in back. The light-colored stock chinese rifle is a papered Vietnam bring-back, in pristine shape - right out of a cache.

Let's Give Senator Schumer some Indigestion, Shall We?
Here's a pic of the Russian wall. At the bottom, due to wallspace constraints, my Swedes reside. But, they aren't in this pic, so, no problem! What you see here is several flavors of russian smoke-pole. At top, a Berdan II (designed by american Hiram Berdan, of Berdan's Sharpshooters in the Civil War), a single-shot bolt action, made by Stevens in Maastricht. I recently scored a bayonet for this fella, but haven't taken a picture yet. Next under are some Mosin-Nagants. Two M91s, top dated 1893, second one dated 1920. The first is purely Imperial marked. The second is Soviet-marked, but still has a hex receiver (vice round) and the arshin sight. Both have older, ring-lock bayonets. Next is a M91-30, pure Soviet. Fourth is a M91-30 Sniper. Next under is the soviet "M1 Garand", an SVT-40, semi-auto in a full-auto stock, with a semi-auto muzzle break. Next under him is an SVT-40 carbine, with SVT-40 bayonet. This gun is SA marked, and may be either a gun repaired to carbine length, or a gun made after the war for the collectors market. Hard to say - but it isn't import-marked. It is probably not a built-from-the-ground-up carbine. Beneath that carbine is a Chinese copy of the M44 carbine, this one being a papered vet bring-back from Korea.

Have fun, gotta run!
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Mauser guy's,
I have some ORGINIAL 1917 Amberg Mauser 98 rifle parts that I want to sell to anyone who needs them.
The list is as follows:
1. The stock. Damaged, but still in one piece.
2. The wooden fore grip with the bayonet lug.
3. The small wooden piece that goes over the barrel where it connects with the breach.
4. The sling with one oval ring for the front and the push pin for the rear.
5. The "straight" bolt.
6. The barrel. It too is damaged (slightly bent) but may be fixed. Need a professional for that, but I guess you guy's know of someone.
All the serial numbers are the same. Those numbers are #8790.
I have no idea of what these items cost, but since I had the gun "Sporterized" (please don't hate me) I really don't have a use for them. I would like to see them get a good home.
I found the old parts in my cellar recently and have talked with some other Mauser people who don't know of a fair price either. Can you help me out? Get back to me when you can. They'll be here and so will I. Later...
J.J.Bilenki Jr. (USN. RET.)
picnicpappy@comcast.net
by Bilenki, James, J. Jr. (USN. RET.) on February 10, 2004 11:05 AM
� Dismissed, Soldier!