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The word choice (and underlying assumptions, to an extent) are... grating.

Never mind the Veterans Affairs bureaus and commonplace community centers that are constructed across the country. Authorities in Georgia have noticed an alarming number of US vets being convicted of crimes after returning home and are hoping that the best way to handle the influx of inmates is by grouping them together.

"They'll find a way to revisit some of their experiences and share it,” added Plummer.

Unfortunately, those experiences are often traumatic ones — so traumatic, in fact, that an alarming number of veterans are developing mental disorders after returning to the States and, without proper treatment, ending up on the streets. Lacking adequate help, American war vets are often left to live on the streets, where entering a life of crime can be just one wrong turn away.


I.just.hate.the.patronizing.tone, regardless of the merits of the approach.

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Greetings:

I live in the San Francisco Bay area, several soviets south of what the locals refer to, for some indecipherable reason, as "The City" and somewhat north of the once illustrious Silicon Valley, so to me all this is somewhere between Stolen Valor Redux and Stolen Valor 2.0.

With the continuing bubbling up of articles of this sort, I'm somewhat un-amazed at the lack of interest in the manpower deficits that our miraculous "volunteer" military went through during the last decade or so as our rulers continued to ride that pony no matter how far it went into the ground. 

You see the policy was, if not totally miraculous, certainly sound and whatever extremely minor problems arose, it was probably due to personal weaknesses of the "volunteers" and these articles are part of the process of both throwing them a bit of a bone and letting them know their place both of which are good things as we travel the road to serfdom.

The hollowing out of our military has already been planned and scheduled. What we're watching is the implementation.
 
Well the article has some rather bad writing.  If you're going to play for haughty then it works better if you don't look like a fool.
"There ought to be a place in our city that provides a facility where veterans can stay for a period of time while being treated, physically and mentally," Ret. Col. Roy Plummer said, reports the local Ledger-Enquirer. "Soldiers will find a way to link together

Never mind the Veterans Affairs bureaus and commonplace community centers that are constructed across the country.
This window into things is pretty refracted but this is suggestive that the bureaus/centres are not effective. Or perhaps especially not effective for the veteran who ends up in prison. Are they actually helpful or just there to pretend to help. Are they funded? Would a veteran trust them? Are they 'family'? Are they skilled?

It does appear there is a veteran crime problem. Why? General crime and imprisonment rates in the US seem to be enormous and very high for males and since the 80s. So this is partly a US, male and modern problem.

I'm not sure how helpful it would be to group veteran criminals together like this. Certainly worth a try but I would vastly prefer outside veterans to be involved than to swirl around problems amongst these veterans. There is also the question of integration with civilians.

It also seems band-aid to me. I'm all for the hope of re-integration, but I do think the best way to prevent this is to prevent the crime-path in the first place. I also don't get the homelessness. I mean they fight for the country but don't even get to live there. It's just such an enormous discord.

This story is a bit of a herald. The surging anti-veteran meme most of you know quite well is going to wash over until the absurdity is released. Probably the coming big whack of extra veterans out of a job into a bad jobmarket will make it the meme look even more true.
 
 I would dare say the Colonel finds it hard to have the actions of a perfectionist.. But, it appears that he has acheived it. Now, the question is this, "a perfect what?*

Please stay within the rulez.
 
"...a life of crime can be just one wrong turn away."

That describes pretty much all of us. In this over-legislated,
over-regulated bureaucratic police state society, just walking out your
front door may be construed as an actionable offence.

Officer Duggles Donutdunk has a hard-on today, add Citizen with
an "attitude". Jail time is not far off.
 
Oh, Good Lord! I personally know two vets, one in my congregation and the other who lives under the same roof with me. The former is a Marine, has some Serious  PTSD issues which have absented him from services while an inpatient at a VA facility, where he was, I suspect, given drugs of dubious efficacy, at least when it came to solving his problems. His wife says he was always a rather grumpy and morose person, and I am afraid the Government Shrinks may try to turn him into an happy happy joy joy guy, or kill him trying.

The latter has never been in combat or shot a weapon outside of training (I had to show him how to open a revolver). He, too, is involved with the VA, for a mysterious thyroid problem. As we know, a thyroid problem can cause all kinds of effects in the rest of one's body, including the brain, sometimes causing other people to think that one is crazy, or something. I advised him to make sure and get the thyroid thing on record, and on plenty of records in multiple places, to avoid the stigma of "crazy dangerous veteran."
 
 We have such a web of laws, that it's quite probable all of us are just uncaught crminals. They'll prolly hunt me down for allowing my Blue Heeler free reign killing Groundhogs. Or for CO2 emissions and other greenhouse gases. All they'd have to do is wait outside the local Mexican style eatery to catch a bunch of us.

I'd hate to think what they'd do to Bill upon exit of the DFAC where he is. Can you just imagine the emissions from the local clientel there? That's prolly worth at leat 10 years equivalent for a Burger King victim.
 
Qm, it is not quite as bad as it could be. We may have to put up with chicks in the pulpit, and electrically amplified music in church (one of my ancestors helped found the oldest still-existing Methodist Camp Meeting in the State of Georgia, and they got by just fine back in 1830 or so without no steenkeeng electricity).

I will be certain that all is lost when saxophonists are invited into churches with their annoying honking "musical" instruments and allowed to blow them during services. Yeah, blow them. Not you or I, but that their fellow saxophonists should blow them, which I betcha they do anyway.  Yes, I do have a bit of an old festering animus here, as an old band nerd who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of saxophonists.
 
P.s.  The person to whom I have referred as my "ex-brother" is a saxophonist. Bill Clinton is also a saxophonist, and has done some exemplary saxophonist behavior, not only with Juanita Broaddrick,  but similarly with all the rest of us.
 
The two people actually quoted have interesting pasts. Joe Mangione is (allegedly) a 55-year-old vet who served 16 years & is now homeless in NY City. From the Google hits, he's a favorite go-to guy for rt.com when they want juicy anti-military quotes. Another article from rt citing Joe also quotes Ted Rall, of all people.

Michael Prysner, on the other hand, is linked to ANSWER. 'Nuff said. I'll begin to think about considering -in the future- his dubious claim of 75,000 homeless vets when that little socialist turd* provides hard data.




*Or am I (in the words of Groucho Marx) just being redundant?


 
Search their quarters for saxophones. 
 
...the latest numbers out of the White House estimate that US veterans on the street make up a chunk of around 900,000 of the country's homeless.

Ain't buying that. This bunch can't even agree on the number of people (from those who wash out of Basic to 6-year veterans with multiple tours to 20-year retirees) leaving each year. Helmetstohardhats-dot-org uses WH figures that state "Each year over 250,000 veterans leave the U.S. military to enter the civilian job market" which is easily twice the DoD-provided turnover rate of 8% attrition through washouts, contract terminations, and retirements, or between 150k and 170k per annum. Recruiting target for 2009 was 164,000, so that's a pretty close number to use for estimating the number of folks they needed to replace.

The BLS stats for unemployed vets is 7.1%, BTW...
 
 As Bill and I can attest to, we saw this same trash about 'Nam era vets as well back in the 70s. While I can admit that many of us were crazy, we were very high functioning crazies. The best students when I was in College, for example, were almost to man, Veterans.

Bill is on the button about using recruiting stats in this matter.
 
BLS shows something remarkable about non Gulf War II era women veterans greatly reducing their unemployment rate in just one year.