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Since it snowed last night...

 ...this seemed an appropriate morning to take a pic of the Castle's two Suomi KP/-31 (Suomi-konepistooli) subguns (aka M31), which between them show off two stock styles, two barrel shrouds, and two different magazine approaches.  As well as one being non-functional (the one in the foreground) and the other being a semi-auto conversion (hence the extended barrel to meet legal requirements for a non-NFA weapon).

Considered one of, if perhaps not the best subgun design from the WWII era, with the Soviets directly copying the drum magazine for the PPSh-41. While perhaps best from an engineering and performance standpoint, it was compllicated and expensive to make, which are big strikes during a war where mass production of "good enough" is the benchmark.  I prefer it to the Thompson, STEN, and MP41.

Finnish subguns in the snow.  A Soviet nightmare.

Castle Argghhh's two Suomi KP-31 subguns.




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Love it. Always wanted one of those. Not a 9mmParabellum fan,
though. The thought has run through my head at times: Could a
tad of gunsmithing make that thing function with the
.38 Colt Super round? That would be a hot little gizmo, there.
 
Old Finnish riddle:

Q: "Where does a Finn prefer to see a Russian?"

A: "Over iron sights."
 
I work for a company that is based in Helsinki and have been over there about 30 times in the last 10 years. Bill's riddle is as true today as it ever was. Being a veteran of the cold war I cannot disagree!

~JACL
 
I wonder did Stalin's guys invent anything original besides the T-34 and JS-1 turrets?

Amazing how they stole stuff and reengineered it to work in terrible conditions.
 
They had some original artillery and aircraft designs.  The SKS and AK were influenced by German designs, but were pretty much original.  In many respects most things are influenced by other efforts.  We swiped Mauser's bolt for the M1903 (and got burned for it in our own courts).   They pretty much invented the truck-mounted rocket launcher, too, didn't they?
 
And they originated the use of human-wave mine-clearing operations...
 
Lovely hardware to have around the farm. I'm not allowed to play with it where I live unfortunately. Were they all made in 9mm? Any other calibers?
Thanks ERA(D)
 
 ERA(D) - not that I'm aware of.  I don't think the Finns converted any to the Tokarev cartridge.  There were some export sales, but 9mm was pretty much the cartridge of fashion in the 30's and 40's.

Now you get to explain ERA(D)...    I'm thinking from something else you've said, your Australian?

I do know a fellow Down Under who has a collection of shootables that range from pistols to tanks.  His travails with the national bureaucrats (all of which he has won, so far) are the stuff of legend.
 
John, congrats, You made the big time:
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Jerry

 
 Jerry - I was posting up top while you were commenting down here....
 
Long, long ago in a galaxy far far away I used to be a sailor. ERA was an Royal Navy engine room rating first used with the introduction of oil fired boilers in the 1860's. It remained in use with the Royal Australian Navy until about 1970. So ERA(D) denotes Engine Room Artificer, specialisation Diesel.

Every time Neptunus Lex catapulted off the deck of the carrier to touch the face of God. He relied on the steam catapult that my brothers in the USN were cooking up below. " We also serve who only stand and wait".  Milton I think. We all do our bit.
 
 Thanks - and at some point, if you continue to visit, we'll get the bleepin' spam gnomes to acknowledge your rating nick isn't spam!