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Presidents In Uniform



Boq

[Too many frickin' sailors, if you ask me... - the Armorer]

Update: Pic amended to address some of the excessive naval presence... - the Armorer

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It took a few seconds of looking at the pic, but I still ended up spewing coffee . Luckly was also turning my head in discust so missed the keyboard.....

Jerry

PS: The Castle needs some kind of "Spew Alert" icon in the title of potentially keyboard killing posts :)
 
Who is the guy between Ford and Reagan?
 
Ewwww never mind.
 
Midshipman Carter...
 
 Who's the guy in the turban?
 
Thanks John. At first I didn't recognize him in his larval stage.
 
...I guess there isn't an easily-available photo of Truman in uniform.

Interestingly enough, LBJ was nearly killed in the single bombing mission he accompanied as an observer. Johnson had switched aircraft after a ground break, and the B-26 he was originally on was shot down.

There has been some controversy over the years as to whether Johnson was actually under fire at one point. It is indisputable that the bomber he was on turned back due to a generator failure, and LBJ later claimed it then came under fire. Recollections from other pilots on the mission, and the mission logs show that the group was not attacked until after the bomb drop over Lae. Johnson -and only Johnson- was awarded the Silver Star for that mission.

There are many who claim the award was completely unjustified. Johnson also took along a home movie camera to the Southwest Pacific, and took movies of his adventures there. He was highly ambitious, and knew that he needed a history of war service if he wanted to advance in poiltics after the war.

Stop me if this is starting to ring a bell... :)

In order of service, the Navy presidents were JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Carter, and Bush Sr. Bush is the sole brown-shoe on the list, excuse the pun. Oddly enough, the Bushes are the only aviators.

I'm thinking the surface-warfare Navy didn't come out looking so good with that list. ;)

 
It's the submarine service that lead the dive for the depths, though, Casey...
 
I suppose you weren't going back beyond the 20th century since you left out George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Zachery Taylor, US Grant, Teddy Roosevelt... I would also give honorable mention to James Madison since he is the only Comander-n-Chief to ever actually command in the field.  Of course, I reallize the punchline is the 2 most recent Dems to hold the office were about as patriotic as Jane Fonda in their youth.
 
Oldloadr, if you're going 19th century, you have to include the Harrisons (William Henry, the hero of Tippecanoe, and Benjamin, a Union general in the Civil War) and Rutherford B. Hayes, also a Union Civil War general.
 
Don't forget that Lincoln was in his state militia.  I have trouble counting Ronnie as serving. Yeah, he took the oath and wore the uniform, but his "duty station" was making movies in Hollywood. 
 
Heartless Libertarian - Proof, once again that memory does not improve with age.  Glad you brought those up!
 
I have trouble counting Ronnie as serving. Yeah, he took the oath and wore the uniform, but his "duty station" was making movies in Hollywood.

Considering that WWII was a real fight for survival, Ronnie's service may not have been dangerous, but it was just as important as any other.  I believe that General Pershing wrote a treatise on the importance of civilian morale in a democracy at war.

BTW, John Wayne never took the oath at all...
 
George Washington.


 
But Truman was just a gunner ...

If I recall correctly, Mr Reagan had bad eyes, which precuded flying; so he was posted to an AAF film unit.

Cheers
 
A bit more than "a gunner/"

Harry S. Truman enlisted for service in World War I with the National Guard and received his commission as a first lieutenant, Battery F, 2nd Field Artillery Regiment, Missouri National Guard, on June 22, 1917. On September 5, 1917, Truman’s regiment was called into federal service as the 129th Field Artillery Regiment. Truman was promoted to captain on April 23, 1918. He commanded Battery D of the 129th Field Artillery in France during the War. Truman was honorably discharged on May 6, 1919. He received his commission as a major in the Officers’ Reserve Corps in 1920. Truman remained an officer in the Field Artillery Reserve until he retired with the rank of colonel on January 31, 1953.

 
 
 I would only like to see a *objective factual history, be made public!*  Let the "Buffalo Chips" fall where they may. 
 
 The Auld Soldier was orginally commissioned as a Second Lieutenant in the Missouri National Guard in the 129th FA, in 1951.  He enlisted in the 129th, rising to the rank of SSG before his commissioning, in 1948.

A storied unit, as far as I'm concerned.
 
 Oh, and Joe - "Gunner" is the catch-all term in the Commonwealth armies for an artilleryman.  It refers to the members of the branch in general, not just the specific position.
 
Ah!  I figure there are the gunners (or cannoneers who crew the piece and gunners who lay the piece) and officers.
   
One saxophonist is too many. 
 
Joe:

Here, in the land of civilization and all that, the furrin devel term of "gunner" translates into your choice of:

Gun Bunny
Tube Polisher
Cannon Cocker.

And yes, they do lay their guns... when they're not rubbing them down with oils and such.
 
John, that kind of humor is really beneath you. Waay beneath. You've sunk to a new low. I better stop now before I torpedo the thread.

Joe, thanks for the link!

Yes, Oldloadr I was sticking to the 20th, given the photos. Come to think of it, they're all post WW2 as well.

Reagan enlisted in the Army Enlisted Reserve in 1937. and was called up in April 1942. From www.reagan.navy.mil/about_reagan.html:
Contrary to the myth of the Hollywood personality who merely donned a uniform, Reagan wanted to go overseas. But in an induction physical, doctors told the future president his eyesight was not good enough for him to remain in the service as an officer. Reagan steadfastly insisted on remaining in uniform. In the face of his quiet persistence, the medics relented but limited 2nd Lt. Reagan to duty in the "zone of the interior" - the U.S. For a time he served at Fort Mason, Calif., as liaison officer for the Port and Transportation Office. It was a typical admin job for a junior officer, in no way related to his background in Hollywood.
 
P.s.  In my experience as a bandsman, saxophonists tend to be loud, rude, uncultured, and just, well, "common", as my Southern relatives used to say.  Also, they can't keep a beat, don't care about intonation, have no idea of dynamics, and their generally sloppy articulation is not improved by those stupid roller-edged keys.

I don't think they make very good Presidents, either.
 
Dang! Did I just kill yet another comment thread?
 
Not only that, they drink all the beer.
 
Not only _that_, they can't hold it very well. Heck, they don't need to; who can tell the difference between the sounds (not music) produced by a drunken saxophonist and a sober one? 
 
Why do sax players stand on the porch?



They never know when to come in.
 
Too true, Joe.

  Let me back off a bit, here. It is possible to make music with a saxophone, and some musicians have done so, from time to time.  However, they were not saxophonists, just real musicians who played the saxophone. "Saxophonist" is a personality type, and a bad one. Just like "clarinetist" is a personality type, and a nerdy one, which I know, well, personally.
 
In conclusion: It is my considered opinion that Mr. William Jefferson Clinton has the (bad) character of a saxophonist.

I watched the Juanita Broaddrick interview on the TV, and did indeed snap my piece at the set when some unpleasant images showed up there. Never fear, all the ammo was in another room, I had enough money to buy a new TV, and made sure there were two concrete walls behind the set. Even Jeff Cooper said it was OK to snap yer piece at the TV, as long as you had taken proper precautions.
 
Lets not forget John Adams who fought as a member if the crew of the USS Boston in the capture of the Martha.  Don't think he had a uniform though...