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Got this from a guy who just.hates.us.warrior-types.

A guy named Laurence Vance over at Lew Rockwell's place.  Seems the best response is to...  give Laurence a link from this troop-supporting website and let our inner jingo run free!  H/t, Kevin.

 

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While I love the lights....boy would I not like to have that next door :)

Jerry

PS: Sure I am missing some of the backstory here , but how can you be "anti-war" but "pro-market"?
Seems to my simple mind if you are " "pro-market" you like stuff (aka personal property)...If you are "anti-war" how do you keep your "stuff" (aka: property). I mean why do you have keys, locks, password, pins, et all....
 
A lot of people are anti-military but pro-capitalism.  In my experience usually the wealthy fit this category.

I think it's a good display might have taken some work and even programming.  If that very loud sound is part of it yeah not nextdoor thanks.
 
 I'm familiar with Lawrence Vance. He's not exactly the wisest man I've ever read. Rockwell's site publishes some good stuff from time to time, but their attitude towards the military is shameful. I can sympathize with the FedGov's willingness to fight wars that don't really protect or national interests (I don't agree that either Iraq or teh AFG as we chose to fight them were in our interests), but the Rockwellites have a general antipathy towards the military. It's an extremely foolish attitude to have.
 
My e-mail to Larry-boy:
Mr. Vance,

Thank you for embedding the delightful "Thank You Troops and Veterans" light show video at LRC. The homeowner obviously spent a lot of time, effort, and money in the preparation and execution of the display.

One question: What made you think a normal human being would get sick watching it?

I'll see if I can find a plexiglass navel in any of the bazaars over here -- your head's so far up your ass, you'll need one to see where you're going.

Hugs!

Bill Tuttle
Former Troop, current Veteran, currently in Afghanistan.
 
The correspondence continues.

Larry's reply:  
if that delighted you then you have a problem. and I see that you are in Afghanistan killing on my behalf. no wonder.

And mine:
I see you're a fool who leaps to conclusions based on the scantiest of information.

I'm an instructor pilot, teaching Afghan helicopter pilots how to survive being caught in bad weather by flying on their instruments.

I also see that you purposely avoid using capitalization, except for "I" -- that, plus the tenor of your post, tells me you have an exaggerated, probably self-assigned, sense of self-worth. I also know that it would never occur to you to thank someone who spent 37 years protecting your right to free speech and self-expression while you, yourself, did nothing to merit it except by virtue of being a citizen of the United States.

You're welcome.

Bill Tuttle
 
 Bill, the exchange is pretty much typical of Vance. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer to begin with, but he's fairly typical of the majority of writers they publish in Rockwell's alternate reality.

I think it's legit to disagree with how we have fought our wars, and I certainly have trouble with how we fought our wars post-WW2. I don't see any that we probably should not have fought, however. Vance his ilk have trouble with war period and he views those of us who serve and have served as little more than amoral morons. I think he says more about himself than he does anyone else.
 
From Lew Rockwell's FB page:

9/11 was a happy event for the whole US government, but the military junta has been throwing a party ever since. 

Perhaps some commenting is in order....
 
My comment. Let's see how long it stays up.

Hey, I just found this page after reading that post about the Christmas lights. Sooooo cool! I didn't think you Onion writers were allowed to do freelance! Love the satire. Keep poking fun. There really are people who think like the folks you are parodying here. Love it. : ) 
 
Those twicky wabbits. They act fast. This won't last long, either.

Why did you take down my post? I'm not a spammer! I think you are one of the funniest writers on the web!!! Where can I get a t-shirt? Do you make coffee mugs? I can be an affiliate!!!! 
 
Bill,

You have much better things to do than try to reason with someone like the uber-foolish Vance. (I deliberately left off the "Mr.") You could be sampling the cuisine or washing your socks or something. People like Vance don't accept the possibility that they might not have all the answers so providing them with information they lack just rolls off them like water off a duck's back.
 
 SKK, where did you post a comment on lewrockwell.com? I've never seen any thing on the site where you can post comments. Or, are you posting to Rockwell's FB page?

And, Nevadasteve is right about Vance, alas. Might as well beat your head against a wall as to reason with him. It's pretty much the same with the others they carry.
 
QM, I posted on his FB page. He was fast on the draw, though. His elves took down both comments lickety split. So I sent an email to Vance.

Hey, Laurence, I just saw your post about the Christmas salute. You know. This one. http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/99647.html

I have to tell you how awesome I thought it was. Now here is a question, just between us writers. I have been trying to get a gig for a long time writing for The Onion or even Mad Magazine, to no successful avail at all. I see that you are able to write for them and make jokes on other sites, too. Dude! Dream gig times a million!!!! How can I do this??? I thought they wouldnt hire me because I cannot sign an exclusive contract. Your writings are hilarious, and everyone should see them. Maybe you could help me and put in a good word? I can make fun of people, too, and show just how dumbass the antiwar people really are. I mean, you totally stick it in their eyeballs. Way to go!!!! Please help. If you do, I will link to you and ask people to pray for anything you want.

~ Your Fan, Susan
 
 
You have much better things to do than try to reason with someone like the uber-foolish Vance.

Ummmm -- what makes you think I was trying to reason with him?

I'd buy off on "excoriate" or "vilify," though...

 
I"m a little disappointed that our collective loving attention didn't score us a reciprocal link or anything!  It's like he's not appreciative of our showing him some linky-lovin' and comments!
 
To change the subject just a bit:

Sancta Barbara, ora pro nobis!

Happy St. Barbara's Day, everyone.
 
Hush, Joe, you'll give poor Larry Vance conniptions -- he's a *perfessional* (albeit quirky) theologian, don't-cha know, and he'd catch the vapors at the thought of military folks having the unmitigated temerity to espouse certain saints as our special protectors.

I mean, someone who condemns The Battle Hymn of the Republic as blasphemy sure wouldn't sit still for the thought of the gentle Saint Barbara as the patron saint of cannoneers...
 
I actually agree with the view that the BHR preaches heterodoxy, if not outright heresy, and has no place in Christian worship. 

But...if I can give the honorable gentleman a case of the vapors, or maybe even an apoplexy, well, I won't be disappointed.
 
I think it's amazing he wrote all that about it.  I might even read it one day.
 
Speaking of the BHR. Did anyone else sing this one when they wuz a kidlet? In California, no less...

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the burning of the school
We have tortured every teacher and have broken every rule
We have massacred the principal, the secretary, too
Our school stands here no more.

Glory, glory hallelujah
Teacher hit me with a ruler
Met her at the door with a loaded .44
She ain't my teacher no more.


 
 
Yep, way back in my Catholic School days.  And a year or two ago some girl got in trouble for singing it - seems it is now a 't'rrist threat' or something. 
 
These are my alternate lyrics (as in the ones I know, not that I wrote 'em - they pre-date my existence by more than a few years)

http://youtu.be/VWgsdexkv18

He was just a rookie trooper and he surely shook with fright,
He checked off his equipment and made sure his pack was tight;
He had to sit and listen to those awful engines roar,
"You ain't gonna jump no more!"

(CHORUS)
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die,
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die,
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die, he ain't gonna jump no more!

"Is everybody happy?" cried the Sergeant looking up,
Our Hero feebly answered "Yes," and then they stood him up;
He jumped into the icy blast, his static line unhooked,
And he ain't gonna jump no more.

(CHORUS)
 
He counted long, he counted loud, he waited for the shock,
He felt the wind, he felt the cold, he felt the awful drop,
The silk from his reserve spilled out and wrapped around his legs,
And he ain't gonna jump no more.

(CHORUS)

The risers wrapped around his neck, connectors cracked his dome,
Suspension lines were tied in knots around his skinny bones;
The canopy became his shroud; he hurtled to the ground.
And he ain't gonna jump no more.

(CHORUS)

The days he'd lived and loved and laughed kept running through his mind,
He thought about the girl back home, the one he'd left behind;
He thought about the medics, and wondered what they'd find,
And he ain't gonna jump no more.

(CHORUS)

The ambulance was on the spot, the jeeps were running wild,
The medics jumped and screamed with glee, rolled up their sleeves and smiled,
For it had been a week or more since last a 'chute had failed,
And he ain't gonna jump no more.

(CHORUS)

He hit the ground, the sound was "SPLAT" his blood went spurting high,
His comrades were all heard to say "A hell of a way to die!"
He lay there rolling round in the welter of his gore,
And he ain't gonna jump no more.

(CHORUS)
(slowly, solemnly; about half the speed of the other verses)

There was blood upon the risers, there were brains upon the chute,
Intestines were a'dangling from his Paratrooper suit,
He was a mess, they picked him up and poured him from his boots,
And he ain't gonna jump no more

Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die,
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die,
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die,
And he ain't gonna jump no more!

 
I used to sing the "loaded .44" version to the kids as a bedtime song. But I warned them against warbling the lyrics on the playground.  
 
In re: to SSK's question:  Yes, and in Arizona too.  I think one variation was 'hit her on the bean with a rotten tangerine/Teacher don't teach no more.'  My mother taught school, and while she was Supremely Annoyed at most song parodies, that one always made her Supremely Annoyed with the public education system.

Yeah, I dropped in to see what y'all were up to, since I have had my nose to the grindstone for the past three months.

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