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Carnival Of Misfires

By Boquisucio on October 7, 2011 | | Comments (25)
Geesh, this is turning into a misfire themed day:



And where does this end?

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By FredB on October 7, 2011 11:18 AM
 A gun that goes off when it's dropped? I thought that only happened in Hollywood.
 
By Joe in N Calif on October 7, 2011 5:55 PM
Did the guy have it in a holster or just in his waistband?  What make and model of pistol was it?  Something just doesn't seem right about this.
 
By Grumpy on October 7, 2011 7:17 PM
 Joe, If that were the case, he's lucky he didn't do a vasectomy on himself. That's gotta hurt.  
 
By Joe in N Calif on October 7, 2011 8:16 PM
Grumpy, people do strange things sometimes.  Saw one guy, who should have known better, pull the stuff out of his pocket - change, keys, pocket knife, Beretta 950 in .25 ACP.  All mixed together.  Scary.
 
By BillT on October 7, 2011 8:57 PM
After the third NJ State trooper accidentally shot himself trying to remove his Glock from his holster back in the '90s, the whole force had to undergo remedial weapon-yanking training...
 
By SKK on October 8, 2011 8:48 AM
I don' like Glocks. Or other sliders. Give me a revolver any day!

I wrote that because I just learned that Nelly reads this blog. But what I wrote are my true feelings! 
 
By Casey on October 8, 2011 11:19 AM
A six-shooter, SKK? What's next, black powder? :)

 
By Boquisucio on October 8, 2011 12:29 PM
I share SKK's sentiment's here.  Revolvers WILL shoot on command, not before after or inspite-of.  Unless they the hammer is cocked.  Then you are an idjot.

I do love my .38 diddle baby - I do.
 
By BillT on October 8, 2011 12:35 PM
And a revolver will never go full auto on you because of a bad sear...
 
By SKK on October 8, 2011 2:37 PM
And the back end of a revolver will never chop off a body part, as in a thumb, if you happen to shift your grip while aiming at a bad guy...

I dunno about that black powder, Casey. Sure, it goes *bang.* But it's so... powdery! 

I'm sticking with Nelly. She's been real nice to us!
 
By Joe in N Calif on October 8, 2011 2:37 PM
Both wheel guns and auto-loaders have their places. And both have advanteages and disadvantages.  Wheel guns tend to go bang when the bang-switch is pulled, and if they don't, usually another pull on it does the trick.  An auto-loader, if it goes "click" rather than 'bang' usually takes a moderately complicated ritual to correct the problem to give you another try. 

Auto-loaders usually carry a few more rounds than wheel guns, and are faster on the reload.  But, in most honest citizen situations, the chance of needing that reload are slim.  If the 5 or 6 in a round gun don't do the job, the 8 to 15 in an auto likely won't do it either. Yeah, you can play the "What if..." game and posit that you having to fight off the Crips, Bloods, and Nortenos all at the same time.  In which event you are nose deep in extra hot kimchee and your concealed carry auto ain't gonna do the job anyway.

Casey, nothing wrong with a .454 ball on top of about 30 gr. of FFFg.  Do the job and lay down a smoke screen at the same time.  Not to mention that the fire and smoke from REAL gunpowder will likely, all by itself, put the fear of God in the thugs.
 
By John of Argghhh! on October 8, 2011 2:59 PM
Besides that, I *like* the smell of blackpowder in the morning... it smells like... victory!
 
By SKK on October 8, 2011 3:08 PM
 Well... If  *I* had black powder, I'd keep it in the living room.

*rubs hands gleefully*

*ducks and runs real fast*
 
By John of Argghhh! on October 8, 2011 3:12 PM
I've got about 30 pounds of it, in the powder magazine, where it belongs.
 
By SKK on October 8, 2011 3:31 PM
*jumping behind fallen log*

*panting*

Hey... guys... is he looking this way?
 
By Joe in N Calif on October 8, 2011 4:20 PM
Only 30 pounds?  You need to order another case or two.
 
By Grumpy on October 8, 2011 7:32 PM
 My personal preference has always been the revolver. It is *not*  how much lead you put out there, but specifically, where you put it. If you do it right, it'll change their very personal preferences. 

SKK writes, "Hey... guys... is he looking this way?" I do believe you've got it all wrong. You make it sound like, "If or is he going to go off?" I don't believe you've got the right questions. Is doesn't matter where he is looking, he has the written record. The real questions are "When" and "How"?
 
 
By Joe in N Calif on October 8, 2011 11:43 PM
Grumpy, I agree with you for the most part.  For an ordinary, honest citizen to carry or have by the bedside, a good double action point-and-click interface can't be beat.  As I mentioned above, it would be vanishingly rare that most people would need more than three or four shots.  

But, when I was helping out at the gunstore/range at which my wife worked, I carried a semi-auto.  Eithe a 92FS or an 84FS (we had Berettas because my wife REALLY likes them).  My thinking was that anyone who would try to rob a gun store would likely be reasonably well armed.  Only two touchy times.  Guy came in, nice set of motorcycle leathers and a full face helmet.  Got about 3 steps in the door, stopped, took off his right glove and reached inside his jacket.  Now, when he walked in, all three of us working moved apart and our hands went to our guns.  Tjurned out he was reaching for his glasses that were in his shirt pocket.  The senior guy talked to him about what a dumb thing that was to do.

Other was wne my wife was locking up for the night. Just the two of us, she had the money for a deposit on the way home.  Lowrider with guys with big ugly bandanas on drove very slowly through the parking lot.
 
By Casey on October 9, 2011 12:14 AM
I know the above remarks are (mostly) fun & games, but I still loves me some M1911A1. If I could afford one. It's a classic, just like a  '66 Mustang.

I also recall reading a review on an old-school Colt-style six-shooter, wherein the writer said aiming was pretty much like the Finger of God. You pointed your finger, and...

While never having fired one, I expect that's where the "point & click" jokes have come from. I have read enough comments from gun owners to know it's a fairly popular opinon, at least in terms of Colt Peacemaker-type revolvers.

John, would you care to present your opinion why a six-shooter is easier to aim than a semi-auto?

 
By SKK on October 9, 2011 8:48 AM
 Grumpy, I fear you are correct. Perhaps I should find a nice set of field blinds, and get ready for winter...

Joe, I am heartened to read such commentary from a fellow Californian... the place has not completely fallen to The Other Side these past couple decades since I left...  But as for gun store thefts, I think we had a case here in The Big Land of Open Carry (AKA Virginia), where some enterprising characters hid out in a store adjacent to the gun shop, and then tunneled into the gun store after hours. I'll have to look up the story. The bang-store employees were waiting for them, if I recall.
 
By Joe in N Calif on October 9, 2011 9:54 AM
Skk - yeah, some of us have to stay in front lines.  Although, any really objective look at CA gun laws will show that CA isn't the worst.  IL, MA, and MD all are harsher, I think.  I know, that isn't saying a whole lot.

Re gun store robberies - about 4 or 5 years ago one free lance socialist decided to share the wealth by trying to rob a gun store.  Idjit went in and threatened the clerk with a knife.  He became shot.

On the subject of guns - let's not forget to clean them:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1m6Qct68wo&feature=player_embedded#!
 
By Quartermaster on October 9, 2011 12:36 PM
You ain't foolin' us, SKK.  We know you keep your black powder in your Lasagna.
 
By Grumpy on October 9, 2011 1:27 PM
 Hey Joe, you put up the link on how to clean a Glock. Question, where was the Glock? I got distracted. There was a lot to see in that video. Yeah, you need to sign in. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining.

About that boy going to a gun fight with a knife, a real "smart boy”.
 
 
By SKK on October 9, 2011 3:22 PM
 Q'master! Sssshhhhhh! It's the secret ingredient!

Well. Not anymore.
 
By John of Argghhh! on October 9, 2011 3:29 PM
 Casey - I think the issue of aim is more related to ergonomics than function.  The newer versions of what SKK calls "sliders" have better grip and sight ergonomics than their predeccessors, many of which had, frankly, crap sights.  Including the M1911A1, if I may be so bold as to criticize Teh Won of semis.