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Brothers in arms...

I have a surprising amount in common with these two pistols.
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All three of us were born in Germany.  The beat-up P38 in 1944, and the mostly pristine P1 in 1980.  The P1 and I started our military careers in Germany in 1980, though I rather think I had a somewhat more active career...  

And all three of us ended up as retirees in Kansas...  The P38, for all that wear and tear, is rather more functional than I am, I admit.  He's just as dangerous as the day he was made, he just shows the mileage...

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Okay John, ya haven't been on Sons of Guns now, have ya?

Regards

Rich in KCK
 
Do those feel as clunky in the hand as they look? 
 
Not by my reckoning, Joe.  The sights on the P1 are an improvement over the P38.
 
Nice, I have been considering diving into "early era" modern fireams with a Mr Moses Browning FN1910, that or a Springfield 1903 :)
Jerry
 
Thanks for showing those.  I'd forgotten about the Manurhin P-1 I'd had back in the '80's.  Found out about it's loaded chamber indicator right off the bat when I'd performed "immediate action" on it with the first mag throuth it.  Just checked, yup, still have the scar.
 
"I have been considering diving into "early era" modern fireams.."

Saturday, I bought a Mosin-Nagant M91/30 (1942) at a gun show for a whopping $119, along with a 440 round can of Bulgarian 7.62x54 ($109).  We took it to the Shaw AFB range on Sunday and had a great time shooting it; especially since the ammo was sooooooooooo cheap.  I plan to go after feral/wild hogs this winter with it. It is typical Soviet workmanship (functional, but 0 frills), which makes it a very loud history lesson.
 
 The 1911 looks like a clunker. I shot one the first time at Kelly AFB when I was still in Hi Skool and didn't think it was clunky after I held that wunnerful piece of hardware.
 
Ooh, a Spreewerk!
 
I once owned an AC43 that I aquired as a vet bring-back along with the Heer dagger taken from the same prisoner. I sold the P38 (with holster) for the same price as I'd paid for the set, so the dagger was free and I was a clever lad!
But the pistol and holster were  in excellent shape and I wish I still had them... :-(
 
Hey, wot's that button for, behind the take-down lever on the P-1?
 
 It's not a button, Neffi, it's the steel reinforce for the alloy frame that the locking lug impacts.
 
Who scratched P38 on the pistol?
 
Thanks John.  Just looking at them that grip looks awfuly straight to me.  And like it would be really light at the muzzle, all the weight in the hand.  Unile the 1911 which has a touch more rake to the grip and more weight forward.
 
That marking is stamped, Chuck, I told ya the P38 was showing his mileage.  He was a battlefield pick-up that had probably lain around a  while, and then spent a lot of time in storage in the beat-up holster that came with the pistol.  Storing your weapon in a leather holster is usually not good for the finish.

Joe - yes, they are a touch light in the muzzle, but it's a 9mm, so that isn't as important as it is for a .45.  Plus, they were built for battlefield accuracy, not competitive shooting.  The P38 doesn't lend itself to much tweaking, either.
 
The P-38 is an improvement over the P-08 if you ever carred one or owned one.  Cool factor aside, the inovative SA/DA firing mechanism is much safer/functional, it is less prone to breakage and malfunction, and the  grip is at a natural angle compared to the P-08.  Compare it in function and field stripping to our current M9 and there are a lot of similarities, but those crafty Germans had it in WWII.
 
interesting site for info on Spreewerk's P38 history    http://www.p38guns.com/Spreewerk.htm
 
I can't shoot a muzzle light gun worth beans. I like a little weight out front.  Colt Dragoons are just about right.
 
John, I can't shoot anything light in the muzzle worth a darn.  I like some weight hung out front, seems to point better for me that way.  Something like a Colt Dragoon.  Walkers are a touch muzzle heavy. 
 
Joe, you can't shoot anything that doesn't use separate-loading ammo, can you?  8^D
 
I've got a 1943byf that my Dad brought back from Germany in 1946.  I've always liked it, and it shoots decently. Since I got the Carry 12 it's sort of the backup gun for whenever the wife runs out of half-moon clips for the Webley.  She LIKES the Webley.