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Wait...what?

Oh, dear...

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On the flip side, a live OBL would have been a gold mine of information.

With Obie in the White House, we could have kept him hanging by his thumbs over a slow fire at Gitmo and never heard a single squeak of protest from the Left.

Speaking of gold mines, is anyone here naive enough to think that the "treasure trove of information" they scarfed up on the raid was worth a plugged nickel two seconds after Teh Won announced we'd grabbed it?
 
I think that just us having the intel ... or even the suspicion that we have the intel ... is making people in AQ very nervous.  They're probably ALL looking over their shoulders now, wondering what may happen.

At the very least, I think this will make them less likely to hunker down and stay put. I think the hope, from our perspective, is that they'll start moving around and making inquiries, increasing their chatter and their visibility. And this makes it more likely that we can find them and kill them.

The downside, of course, is that is may also lead to premature AQ "revenge" attacks.  But maybe some authorities think this is better than waiting for some of AQ's other plans to mature.

At least one hopes there's SOME kind of larger strategy behind the public release of some of this information.
 
I don't know about any gold mine...what with all those ACLU lawyers lining up to defend him from interrogation and the AG making sure no one laid a finger on him, it is better he's dead. Just one big splash for Barry and then back to unemployment. If OBL was housed down in Gitmo, we'd be hearing all kinds of great decisions the President was making. This way we have a better chance of keeping Barry to one term.

And we will mine the info for second and third tier people. The fat lady hasn't sung yet on those people yet. A lot of rats are scurrying right now and may have been flushed out.
 
Ron Paul is a strict Libertarian, which means he's a bit of a nut job.  I'll confess to having libertarian leanings, but like everything else, you can take it too far, and he has.  It makes him a squish on national defense, and is one reason I don't think I could vote for him (unless the choice was between him an the current Pres).
 
Ron Paul is an isolationist who would ignore threats until they directly threatened or attacked us.  By that point, the threat would have grown too large, and dealing with it would be costlier in terms of lives and treasure. And we'd probably have to fight on our own soil, in our own cities, jeopardizing our own civilian population.

I'd prefer to deal with these threats before they grow too large, on THEIR soil, with our military and intelligence resources.

If that makes me a fascist neo-con, I accept the label.
 
MikeD,

Well said. I am something of a libertarian myself but I just can't abide some of the more idealized ruminating that they are prone to. As someone said "The perfect is the enemy of the good." Libertarians don't seem to get it.

For me it is better to accomplish some good than to strive for perfection and fail to accomplish anything. I read the comments in the link and they show the peanut gallery is even wackier than Ron Paul. Paul has said some things I agree with but I just can't take the whole package. I'd rather vote for The Donald (and he makes me shudder) than Ron Paul.
 
At least one hopes there's SOME kind of larger strategy behind the public release of some of this information.

The only strategy behind it was to give Obie's numbers a bump and give him something to point to as a positive accomplishment during his re-election bid.

Call me cynical, but there's no other logical reason to have done it.

 
Spot on, BillT...the guy's numbers in the high 40s (should be in the low 20s, tops) makes me nuts. EVERYTHING he does is designed for one thing: getting re-elected. Feh, feh and double feh.

BTW, the guy I'm flying with is a die-hard Paul fan. Makes for interesting legs to California and back (3 hrs., each). To be fair, he admits he can be trying at times, but he has some interesting takes on things (heh). Better him than a committed union thug...
 


Sound bite journalism rarely tells the whole story.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4693802/rep-paul-americas-in-a-mess/?playlist_id=86858

But of course, telling the whole story wasn't the point, was it?

 
Froggy over at Matty O'Blackfive's hootch made an interesting point. The WH committed a major PerSec violation and tossed both the operators *and* their families under the bus -- solely to make Obie look good for a single news cycle...
 
For BillT:
Why would THAT surprise anyone?
 
"Ladies", simply put, ***JSTFU***, deal with it !!   Note, I did watch the CNN video, but my comment stands for all of us!
 
I have mixed feelers about Paul.

Much of what he stands for is what's supposed to be stood for by all of us. I don't like his old school isolationism, since that lost any competence with the first oceanic flight. But... there is a need to seperate what we do for our national security abroad, armed or otherwise, and the great big unending boondoggle of corrupt and incompetent global socialism we fund with our international give-away programs.

His position on welfare is dead on accurate. You can find the foundation for his reading of the Constitution if you use some google fu. The "... provide for the common welfare.." statement was " a bit of poetic flourish carried over from the Articles of Confederation" and not meant as supporting any rob Peter to pay Paul's daily bread. This was made clear by founding fathers speaking on the issue way back when when numbnuts tried to start a "welfare program" for French refugees from, iirc, Martinique when a volcano spewed up and made em flee to the US. According to one FF, who's name I can't recall atm, "if we had known to what nefarious purposes those words would be put, we'd have left them out all together." There's your penumbra.

But, seriously, there's no way in hell that things are going to be put back to functional in any real long term manner without a lot of bloodshed first. Folks love to live in denial of that, but it is what it is. No particular POTUS is gonna fix it. The best we can hope for is a string of POTUS's that slow the degradation down somewhat.

The congress would have more impact than a POTUS long term. Same with federal judges and SCOTUS. If blood is to be avoided, that's where the focus needs to be, imo. A properly functioning congress shed of the intellectually inbred leftards, and a SCOTUS that actually honors its collective oaths, and any sort of destructive POTUS can be contained and marginalized.