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A Call to Action - Military Children in Hawaii

Per the request of Major Ziergnfoos [sic] the 25th Infantry Division's Strategic Communications guy, a guest-post by the Commanding General of the 25th Infantry Division, MG Champoux:

A Call to Action - Military Children in Hawaii

We've known for decades that Hawaii is a great assignment - except for the schools. The lack of quality public education in Hawaii is an assignment deterrent for many and a constant quality of life issue for those assigned here.

We now have a unique opportunity to inform and influence the education of our children in Hawaii and perhaps all children in Hawaii. U.S. Pacific Command (PACOM)has teamed up with John Hopkins University for the first-ever "Military Child in Hawaii" study. All Soldiers with school age children, assigned in Hawaii , are invited to participate, whether your children are in public, private, charter, home school, or off-island. We need you to speak up and be heard.

Soldiers and family members can expect to make many sacrifices in the service of our Nation, but your children's education isn't one of them. I urge you to take this survey, and allow your children 10 years and older, to take this survey. To sign up for this survey, simply go to http://www.hawaiikids.org

Thank you
Posted by MG Champoux

Cross-posted from the 25th ID website.

13 Comments


Sooooo, this soon-to-be-dressed down Major is basically saying, the Gubmint Skools ain't worth a hoot?

That in order to have your children recieve a quality education, it is necessary to pair up with an outside, basically private institution and 'home-school'?

Anybody notified the NEA yet?  Base MPs been alerted for mass demonstrations?  Has POTUS been informed?

Wow... 
 
Ummmmmm......... that's major GENERAL, as in CG of ythe 25th.

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Mike L:  Not likely to be for long.
 
oooh...I dunno.  It is an interesting assignment.  I think what they are saying is that since Federal Impact Aid is what funds much of the public school budgets of the state of Hawaii, the military has a vested interest, since FIA pays the most for military children.  If they don't improve, they don't get accredited and they don't get funding.  Carrot and stick.

When we were in Missouri, the schools routinely lost their accreditation.  In order to KEEP it, they had to teach to the below norm so everyone was able to pass.  Yes, it is a failing of the schools, but they do it to get the money and accreditation.  We didn't pay FIA because we weren't on the school radar and weren't required to register with the state.

This will be an interesting study.  Especially if the home school, charter school and private school kids test above their publicly educated peers.

I don't see that he will be demoted or retired early for asking the questions.
 
There is also the statement about the quality of life and the rottenness of the schools being a deterrent to being assigned there.  Question for the Donovan:  In a BRAC assessment, I know that the overall location and mission of the base is the reason to keep or close, but what about other factors, such as this?  Could QOL and schools be a big part of it?  Could Hawaii become a hardship tour like Korea because of it?  The money saved would be phenomenal.

Just asking..
 

There's a reason HF6 homeschools the kids... and I'm sure the lack of quality HI education is high on the list of reasons.  I hope she participates.

 
What I found wonderful when the Engineer was on active duty was that the Army was supportive of homeschooling.  It is when touchy-feely nonsense from Army Family Advocacy steps in that I get Supremely Annoyed.  Things like 'tracking' and 'scope and sequence' drivel come from social workers who are not teachers but think they have the right to ask and pronounce judgment on either the parent's teaching ability or the venue under which the instruction is provided.

So, to combat such ignorance and to conquer the Supreme Annoyance, I saved all their best work for the year JIC.  I also had them tested by the local school system (so they couldn't say I taught to the test) to see what their ranking was with their peers.  I think that that is what the data is going to look for; how choice affects the quality of education and why.  It should come as no surprise to the bureaucrats that are looking for these answers that one reason for success in education alternatives is...lack of bureaucratic administration.

 
Not just the schools:  Say Uncle spent some time in Hawaii as a kid and loves the place, He does not love the native Hawaiians, they having a tendency to beat on the haoles. Why are we white folks so famously racist, when everybody else is much more so, and much meaner about it?
 
I was the smartest student at my (public) school in Hawaii.  That ain't sayin' much.
 
I think children are inherently smart but need individual teaching for those who will struggle.  We have a dyslexic; he is our youngest.  However, in math, he gets it.  He struggles with language.
I seriously doubt the ps system, even here, would do right by him because of the the red tape we would have to go through to get him the classes he needs.  While hardly an argument for homeschooling, had it not been an option, we would be dealing with one angry kid right now.

Fortunately, the state of Georgia is more homeschool-friendly than most; but what can really ruin a kid isn't necessarily bad teaching but the hoops parents have to jump through to get the help the kids need.

Funding for special education and special needs programs require teachers who are in that field, and curriculum is cut instead of admin salaries.

Just my two cents.
 
Oh, Hell yeah, Cricket. About half the people I hang out with on the 'net are autistic, or have autistic kids, and it makes me hoppin' mad to see what they have to go through with the schools, not even to get help, but just to try to prevent people being mean to the kids.
 
No one will demote MG Champoux for voicing an opinion that a.) has been voiced before by those that do and do not outrank him, b.) is backed up by local and national test scores, c.) is voiced by local politicians both during and outside of campaign season, and d.) is blatantly obvious to EVERYONE in this state other than the Board of Education.

Yes, the schools here are lacking. In my opinion, there are a plethora of reasons but I'd list the top 5 as being:

1. a symptom of a nation-wide problem in that teachers are no longer taught HOW TO TEACH but merely how to implement curriculum (usually produced by the lowest bidder...and I'm sure most of you here know how that works out) and manage a classroom

2. a symptom of problems within society in that parents now expect schools to literally take on the role of parenting between the hours of 7:45am and 2:45pm (if not later, depending on whether after-school care is employed)

3. a result of a lack of local control - the Board of Education covers all seven islands and local communities (yes, they are different between the islands and even within an island itself) have no say in how their children are educated. Additionally, the district is incredibly top heavy in terms of administration and funding. The budget is huge but the monies rarely make it into the classroom.

4. The focus of education here (and elsewhere) is outcome-based the phrase "teach to the test" is in full effect here. It's all about checking the boxes (yep, taught that on Monday. Moving on...) and not about making sure that the students understand the concept and have a firm foundation before moving on to a more complex subject.

5. The economy also plays a role in the quality of education here. The cost of living is exorbitant and teachers' salaries cannot keep up with it. It is difficult, if not impossible, to live comfortably here on a teacher's salary. Therefore this state faces a "brain drain" of sorts - most graduates of teacher education programs on island do not stay on island after they have graduated. If they do stay, they don't stay for long - I can't recall the exact percentage but it's something like 40% of teachers leave the island after their 2nd year. Mainly because they find that their salary does not make it possible to live the life they want. So they go to the mainland where they can get more "bang for their buck".


I could go on and on. And yes, the quality of the schools here are a big reason as to why we pulled our children out and decided to homeschool them. It wasn't the only reason, nor was it the top reason. But it was a big one.

I'd love to see this study have an impact but I suspect that Hawai'i's education woes are simply a reflection of the woes of our education system nationwide. And yes, we will participate. 

 
Oh, and JTG...I have to say that my experience with the Hawaiian people - on this island as well as Kaua'i, Maui, and the Big Island - have been vastly different from what you describe. We have been made to feel nothing but welcome during our almost 6 years here on the island. The Hawaiian people (as well as the Samoan, the Micronesian, the Japanese, the Chinese, the Korean, and the Philippino) have been gracious, helpful, kind, and accomodating in ways that I've never witnessed on the mainland. The ONLY other place I've EVER witnessed this level of kindness was during our time in Alaska.

Mainlanders could stand to take a few tips. Same goes for the military members and spouses that insist on showing their butts on a regular basis here on island.