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'Bout damn time.

Staff Sergeant Salvatore Guinta, first living recipient of the Medal of Honor for actions during the Global War on Terror.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________THE WHITE HOUSE

Office of the Vice President
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

September 10, 2010

Readout of the President's call with Specialist Salvatore Giunta

Yesterday, President Obama spoke with Staff Sergeant Salvatore Giunta to inform him that he will be awarded the Medal of Honor for acts of gallantry at the risk of his life that went above and beyond the call of duty. Sergeant Giunta will be the first living service member to be awarded the Medal of Honor for service in Iraq or Afghanistan. The President thanked Sergeant Giunta for his service and extraordinary bravery in battle.

Further information about the date and time of the ceremony will be released at a later date.

ACTION FROM WHICH THE MEDAL OF HONOR WAS EARNED:

Then-Specialist Salvatore A. Giunta distinguished himself by acts of gallantry at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while serving as a rifle team leader with Company B, 2d Battalion (Airborne), 503d Infantry Regiment during combat operations against an armed enemy in the Korengal Valley, Afghanistan on October 25, 2007.

When an insurgent force ambush split Specialist Giunta's squad into two groups, he exposed himself to enemy fire to pull a comrade back to cover. Later, while engaging the enemy and attempting to link up with the rest of his squad, Specialist Giunta noticed two insurgents carrying away a fellow soldier. He immediately engaged the enemy, killing one and wounding the other, and provided medical aid to his wounded comrade while the rest of his squad caught up and provided security. His courage and leadership while under extreme enemy fire were integral to his platoon's ability defeat an enemy ambush and recover a fellow American paratrooper from enemy hands.

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Well done, Staff Sergeant Guinta! [More below the fold]


There is still no excuse for it taking just shy of three years to get to this point in the process.  In that, the leadership of the Pentagon should simply be ashamed of themselves.  To offer some perspective - an equivalent time in World War II would have meant that an award earned on Guadalcanal, the first major ground campaign in the Pacific, which opened August 1942... would have been awarded during... the final ground campaign of World War II, the invasion of Okinawa.

Gunnery Sergeant John Basilone, who earned his Medal of Honor for actions on Guadalcanal, would never have received it, as he was killed in February 19, 1945, on the opening day of the battle of Iwo Jima.  Are you seriously going to propose that our current standard are just higher?  I.e., infer that WWII Medals are somehow less likely to rise to the standard now imposed?

You're right - there's no pleasing me.

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Actually, I think just under 3 years (35 months, thereabouts) is a bit faster than seems to have been the norm for GWOT MOHs.  If memory serves, 3.5-4 years seems to have been more the norm.

Which is even more shameful.

I need to send an email to our current G-1 (who spent our recent deployment as the Deputy CoS) and ask how many, if any, MoH noms we had.
 
His actions are well documented in "War" and, although I haven't seen it, I'm sure it's in "Restrepo" too.  There are many heart-stopping moments in "War", but this one event still sticks out in my mind.  The way he just refused to let the insurgents carry away his buddy made my cry proud tears- which were greatly increased because I already knew Brennan eventually died.  I don't know the Brennan's, but I do have friends who know them, and if I ever get the chance, I'd thank Giunta profusely for making sure their son made it home instead of being used as propoganda by the bad guys. (not to mention the fact that Brennan was still alive when he got to him- I shudder to think what the insurgents would have done to him)
 
I get the feeling that the career paper pushers in the Pentagon are reluctant to approve Medals of Honor because the awardees are invariably better men than the aforementioned paper pushers.

Being required to render a salute to a living recipient, a mere Staff Sergeant, may be too much for some egos to bear.
 
Russ' comments cuts very close to the bone, I suspect.  In previous wars of the 20th Century, the senior leadership had seen the elephant and understood the demands of combat.  Those who led the services during Vietnam had been at the frontline level in WW II and Korea.  Those who led in WWII and Korea had gone over the top in WWI.  Today, not so much.  The senior leadership missed Vietnam and went through their careers without the CIB, Silver Star, Purple Heart and other bling worn by those a few years senior.  They can't recognize and discriminate acts of courage because they have never seen it except at the movies.  I can attest that its somewhat different in real life.
 
You both have spoken what I whisper in the darker parts of my soul.

I always *relished* the few opportunities I had to salute putatively subordinate Holders.

But I'm a sentimental old fool.
 
Why is it "shamful"?  What's the rush?  I see no reason why it shouldn't take a few year to get the Nations Highest Honor.

And I'm assuming there's more to the story then the two paragraph post.  Because that's pretty light, for a MOH.
 
Old Scout - we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

I have no problem with vetting the recommendation.  Interviewing the witnesses.  But why on earth should that take *years*?

The only reason it's taken years before this was because recommendations were lost in the shuffle, witnesses were lost, etc.

But in this day and age, *years?*

Strikes me as a huge failure of leadership.  Prompt rewards, etc?

I hearken back to my example - if you find the multi-year process acceptable, then the bulk of Medals would be awarded after the war was over, in the case of WWII and Korea.

I don't buy it.  I can see a year (and that only reluctantly).   I admit, the one thing missing from this discussion is *when* was the recommendation submitted.  The time limit, I believe, is two years from the event, absent special circumstances.  So, if this one sat in an outbox collecting dust until someone got motivated towards the end of the time limit - then it begins to fall into the category of believeable.

Except.  All that does, in my mind, is shift the leadership failure to a lower level.
 
Oh - and Scout - my real beef is with the fact that until this one, all the recipients were dead ones.  And the platitudes trotted out for that didn't compute for me.
 
There are probably 4 systemic reasons for the MPOH:

1)  "Medal" and "heroism" envy as posited by Russ.

2)  The fear that live MOH awardees will somehow embarrass the DoD, WH, or the US at a later date.

3)  Plain old bureaucratic inertia, incompetence and inefficiency.

4)  And sometimes, a presidential administration that simply "loathes" all things military.
 
Frank - in re #4 - same problem under the Bush administration.
 
John of Argghhh!
I keep forgetting that "the times aren't changing" they have changed.  It is the Twenty First  Century! 
No agument when it comes to only dead guys getting "the" metal.  Never understood that either.
 
I have a feeling some if it has to do with extra public coverage in "War" and "Restrepo".  They couldn't hide from his actions.  But it just feels SO GOOD to know that the MoH has finally gone to a LIVING GWOT recipient!
 
@JoA at 1:25 pm: I recall reading that Audie Murphy set up a meeting with Mark Clark, so as to get saluted first.  Murphy did not approve of Clark's profligacy in spending his men's lives.
 
Oh, JoA, thinking about what you said when discussing the Etchberger award;  as a former bandsman, I want the whole ceremony, the whole nine yards, the Sound Off, the Passing in Review with the just-recently-awarded MoH guy reviewing all the other folks who march past him, with appropriate music.  We do so fail to provide appropriate music, these days.
 
P.s. As you know, Vegetius said that a sojer should have knowlege of music, 'specially if he were an Artilleryman.
 
Or trolling, Frank?  No, what you are doing is spamming.
 
No pleasing you John?  The pleasing is not just in the MOH awarded but more in the brave man's actions. When I read the words there's a measure of pleasing to me and I don't even get to share in the pride of his nationality.

When actions of the brave like he stop or are procrastinated like some of these MOHs, then there's no pleasing at all.

But by all means fix the system.  Many of you are in a good positon to push for such.
 
As I said elsewhere, I am happy for the young STG to be awarded the CMOH.  I would gladly salute him and laud his courage.

I am mostly surprised it did not get downgraded to a Letter of Commendation, or maybe an AAM.  The awards process in the Army and Navy (having served in both) are abysmal.  Commanders are very stingy with awards, maybe moreso in the Navy. 

I know when I was told I had a Bronze Star coming for Desert Storm (Army), I had to question what I did, and said "no thanks", although my BC gave them to every other E8 thru O5 in the command.  My peers thought I was stupid, but I could not further cheapen the decoration.  I only did my job.  In retrospect, I probably was.  But I sleep well with a clear conscience.

Regards,
CW4
 
Now how did that do it twice AND get SGT wrong both times???  Must be a loose nut behind the keyboard!
 
"Or trolling, Frank? No, what you are doing is spamming."

JTG, I don't know to what you're refering, but I don't think either of these are applicable to my comment.
 
fdcol63, JTG's comment wasn't directed at you but at a 'Frank' spam post which has since been deleted.
 
Frank - what Argent said...
 
Argent and DoS, thanks!  And JTG, as Emily Litella said, "Never mind." LOL
 
No problem, fd. For the march-past music I recommend "Bullets and Bayonets" by Sousa. There is an appropriate Sousa march for every occasion, you know. The Clintons had a band play "The Bride-Elect" for his second inaugural. I always thought "Our Flirtations" would have been more appropriate.
 
P.s. I was so annoyed watching W's second inaugural, not to hear The President's Own play "Daughters of Texas" when Laura and the girls walked up.  Sousa, baby!