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Open Carry On Training Wheels

By Boquisucio on August 10, 2010 | | Comments (19)
I regularly visit the pages of Oleg Volk.  I like his sense of style,  with a good mix of artistic photography and old fashioned gun bloggin'.

This week he featured Tom, a pistol packing 9-year old.  Here's Tom sporting a Walther P22 in a Kydex IWB Holster.


Source: Oleg Volk

I'd like to dare Communist Tyrants to show interest in homegrown patriot of ours.  Somehow, I have a feeling that there will be now bullying allowed in his schoolyard.

Boq

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By Blake Kirk on August 10, 2010 8:45 AM
Here in Georgia, there are only some VERY limited circumstances under which a minor is permitted to be in possession of a handgun.  Getting his picture taken, as in the above examples, is not one of them. and both the photographer and the parent could face charges of "contributing to the delinquency of a minor," for putting the kid in this situation. 

I know of NO state where a minor is able to obtain a carry permit.

The pictures are cute, for certain definitions of cute.  But at the same time what you are seeing is in some ways deceptive.
 
By John of Argghhh! on August 10, 2010 9:04 AM

I'm with ya, Blake.  The pic makes me squeamish, too - which just goes to show how the gang-bangers, and anti-gunners, have poisoned the well.

 
By Annabelle on August 10, 2010 11:04 AM
Allowing children to handle firearms is a personal choice.  I think my youngest, who just turned 10, would be more safety-conscious with a gun than my about-to-be 13 year-old.  But since I can't allow the younger one to handle a weapon and not the older one... both are taught to just leave them alone and walk away.  Both have handled bb guns, under direct adult supervision, but my oldest is extremely impulsive and is easily angered.  It scares me to think what he might do if he had access to a real gun when he flies off the handle.
 
By Baroness Ophelia Kensington-Gore on August 10, 2010 12:53 PM

I do not see anything wrong with these pictures.  The kid has a proper trigger finger placement
I do cringe when I see a 10-year old afghani touting an AK-47 though...
I guess the difference is in the context or the devil is in the details

 
By Grumpy on August 10, 2010 1:17 PM
It's amazing how things have changed, not for the better. I live in the house I grew up in. The people around here would have nightmares, if they only knew. There was an old abandoned gravel pit, around the block and across the main road from our house. It was then you went down a road into the pit. No, you didn't get into a car, you walked carrying sidearms of various sizes, with ammo. No, you didn't have parents watching over you. We were all taught by our parents, on how to shoot. For me, it was my Mom, 50+ years ago, I was younger than this lad.

The most important lesson on this subject, had nothing to do with weapons. The real issue is discipline, not imposed discipline, but self discipline. When my parents taught me, there was a respect for the weapon and its use. This gravel pit sat on the border line between 3 communities, it was not unusual for a policeman or even the chief of police to stop by and observe. We would *always* stop, put the firearms down and walk over to him, with hands open and visible.

@Blake Kirk, you make a good point  the pictures *are deceptive*, they show no *context*. The lad may know something about the firearm, *BUT*, it does not mean, he *KNOWS* the firearm and its usage.

I took a few moments and closely examined the pictures. I think you have a *KID* playing with a toy or prop. I don't think there is an actual firearm in the images.

*I believe you've been HAD!*
 
By Boquisucio on August 10, 2010 1:35 PM
In the comment section of the original posting, the photographer states that while it is a real Walther P22, and while the kid is a proficient shooter, he made sure that no ammo was anywhere near the photoshoot.

Safety First.
 
By htom on August 10, 2010 1:53 PM
I wonder if there isn't a third image coming, showing that it's a toy gun, the lesson being the dangers of carrying a toy as if it was real because of the response of armed others.

I was six, bought my first at ten.
 
By BillT on August 10, 2010 1:56 PM
I hope the photo shoot didn't give the lad the impression that carrying an autoloader in a holster with the hammer cocked and the safety off was a *good* idea...
 
By John of Argghhh! on August 10, 2010 2:05 PM
Damn.  I shoulda caught that.  Good catch, Bill.
 
By htom on August 10, 2010 2:47 PM
Condition Zero. Ouch. I missed it too.
 
By prestonious on August 10, 2010 3:21 PM
I have pictures of me holding up my first Goose and my 410 (yes) about that age. I was practiced in several types of long guns at that age but not independent of supervision even those 4+ decades ago. Not pistols tho. I can't see the fine detail on the safety features on my 2" screen but several people at the site dropped the ball on that one -- even if it is a set up pic (I have not researched the source). Youngens can be responsible - would have to more than exceptional for discipline with pistols and/or quickdraw - even with supervision. They are still kids. I do believe in education of firearms in our youth. But it must be very well controlled and supervised by WELL trained adults - not by people who think because they can spell gun that they are trained.
 
By Baroness Ophelia Kensington-Gore on August 10, 2010 4:27 PM
Being a Glock girl, I missed the hammer, too :o)
 
By Grumpy on August 10, 2010 5:14 PM
"Safety First."  In this application, just what does that mean? "Always treat the firearm as if it were loaded." I must admit, it could have *possibly* been a Walther P22, but I doubt it. He may have never understood the importance of the firearm.  You say the kid is a proficient shooter, but is he a safe shooter? Don't assume it, ask it. The location of the ammo is of *no importance*.

@BillT, Hey, ya Auld Phart, GREAT CATCH, I missed it!

@Boq, @Armorer, *This is not about you, it is about this young lad's handlers and their lack of concern for his safety.* There are some things in life. which you never want to give them a face. Now, we have a new reference point for stupidity, they put this lad's face on it. If they think it's so important, let them put their own nuts out on the wood block. I still have my 22 oz, long handled framing hammer with a checkered face. All I have to do is hit the block, not them.  Now, their eyes are open with sweats, they'll never forget.

@prestonious, "Goose Gun", could that possibly be an  8 gauge shotgun?
 
By BillT on August 10, 2010 5:54 PM
Good catch, Bill.

I look for that stuff. My right foot was an inch away from getting me 20% of a stigmata because some Lootenant I relieved as Brigade SDO one morning pulled Teh Offishul SDO M1911 from his holster to clear it before turning it over to me and it went boom. Worn sear.

He got to pull an additional twelve hours, because the Brigade SGM was standing behind me, and when the round zipped off the floor on its way to the ceiling, it went between his legs and almost made him a candidate for harem guard.

Smaj and I looked at each other and went to the nearest bar. I drove.
 
By Boquisucio on August 10, 2010 7:15 PM
Grumps, THIS is the referent original link in which the photographer refered to the Walther.
 
By Justthisguy on August 10, 2010 9:29 PM
People have already complained about the safety issues on Oleg's EllJay.  Maybe I'll go over to the High Road and complain?  Nah, surely many other gun nerds have already done so.

I'd be afraid to carry my Star PD loaded, with the safety on and the hammer cocked. It was kinda old and well-used before I bought it, back in the previous millennium. It's like a simplified lightweight 1911 without the grip safety.  It does shoot straight.
 
By Grumpy on August 10, 2010 11:25 PM
Boq, this link to Walther proves there may have been one Walther P22 in that holster, but not conclusively. This young lad cannot give consent or say anything, before he can give it, he must own the legal consent. This almost reminds me of a type of Woodstock Flower Child Mindset in Reverse, but of Equal Value, more commonly known as "Blooming  Idiots". The more you defend this "Charlie-Foxtrrot" view the more it will define you and your values.
 
By BloodSpite on August 11, 2010 6:17 AM
Whew. This one is a hot rock no matter how you look at it, in my view point. It does make me squeamish. That said I can not throw rocks. At age 9 I was walking the woods with my Model 94 .30-30 and a .38 Special in case of snakes, or a bad encounter with a wild hog. But for me semi-auto's are not about hunting, or sport, or fun. They are used for self defense, and tactical based operations. Not something I would have my children use or play with, except to experience and leave well enough alone. Maybe I'm weird, but then I've never owned a semi automatic hunting rifle either, for the same reasons. Mine are all bolt action.
 
By Justthisguy on August 11, 2010 6:22 PM
My Dad was present, back in the twenties, when another kid was shot by a dog. This was in the old (Westview?) cemetery in Atlanta, when it was new and mostly just used as a park. There were kids out there shooting their rifles, playing with dogs and balls, etc. One of the kids was invited to join a game, so leaned his rifle on a low object. It was loaded all right, and a dog nuzzled it or something, and kaboom. I think it was an autoloading .22, the kind which shot from an open bolt. The kid must have thought it was safe with empty chamber and bolt open.