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Meanwhile, in other news...

Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:41:32 -0600

Charles S. Roberts, one of my enduring heroes, has passed. The company he founded, Avalon Hill, and the products it produced, awoke a part of me that still earns me gainful employment to this day. I may have to go downstairs and break out Afrika Korps, or Gettysburg, and play a game in his honor. All you role players out there, heirs to Dungeons and Dragons? You owe Mr. Roberts thanks, too - like me, Gary Gygax got his start with Avalon Hill wargames.They'll have to open some gaming tables down at Fiddler's Green.Now is the time at Castle Argghhh!...

Comment from Ian Argent on 2010-09-02

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:43:52 -0600

I played a chunk of AH games, inlcuidng Diplomacy, Tactics 2, and Tactics (my father has both, Tacticsw having been released after it's somewhat more famous brother). Played 2 games of ASL. I can still be heard to mutter "sniper check!" when rolling dice...

Comment from Quartermaster on 2010-09-01

Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:48:24 -0600

I spent many a night playing Blitzkrieg, Midway, and Panzer Blitz. Later Bought several of SPI's products. Alas, life got in the way and I had to start making a living. RIP Mr. Roberts. And, thanks much!

Comment from Mythilt on 2010-08-31

Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:37:48 -0600

RIP. I played a lot of AH games when I was a kid (Finished only a few of them, but played a lot.)

Didn't Curt Schilling purchase a bunch of rights to lesser known AH games from Hasbro? I know he did ASL, but not sure about the others.

Comment from David Brown on 2010-08-31

Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:48:07 -0600

John, thank you for the news, no matter how sad. I am part of a group, Schwerpunkt, that still designs for and plays ASL. Oh, and I still have nearly every battle game from Tactics II to the Panzer series. I gave away Squad Leader when I moved to ASL. Thats over 50 years of happy memories. Mr. Roberts, I salute you.

Comment from Fishmugger on 2010-08-30

Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:02:39 -0600

Yup...after reading the post I went down to the garage and looked. They're still there: Panzer Leader, Panzer Blitz, Squad Leader...I couldn't find Tactics II or Midway. Now I just play Civ II on the computer, that way I don't have to find a friend that will take anything else but the Americans.

Lot of hours beating the bad guys.

Comment from Doctor Funk on 2010-08-30

Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:30:19 -0600

I spent some great times playing Panzergruppe Guderian with friends in my youth. A Dunnigan design that was re-released by Avalon Hill in the 80s.

Comment from MAJ Mike on 2010-08-30

Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:23:57 -0600

I played Stalingrad, Battle of the Bulge, D-Day, Waterloo, and Afrika Korps.

Wish I still had them. We owe a debt to Mr. Roberts.

Comment from RetRsvMike on 2010-08-30

Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:54:18 -0600

may his path to Fiddler's Green be straight and level, and not some cockeyed hexagonal swervy jinking path that only goes straight on the North/South Axis...

Comment from Guy S on 2010-08-30

Mon, 30 Aug 2010 16:42:29 -0600

Spent many a night after work playing D&D with my fellow co-workers. To Charles S. Roberts, and somewhat belatedly to Gary Gygax, thank you gents for providing what was the forerunner to "social networking" sites we have today, and in allowing all of us to invest our time, energy, and imaginations, in the treasures you produced for us. They both left the world a bet better off, for two generations now, then it was before their dreams became reality. Rest easy gentlemen, ya done good!!

Comment from JimC on 2010-08-30

Mon, 30 Aug 2010 15:42:20 -0600

Sad day for two generations of gamers. I believe Jim Dunnigan designed games for AH too. He had his own company and was somehow subsumed into AH. I still have some of Dunnigan's games somewhere in the basement. He led me to miniatures.

Comment from BloodSpite on 2010-08-30

Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:31:02 -0600

Just dammit.

Too many of the most creative minds are going away and not being filled. What passes for creative thought today leaves me shaking my head. Where are the people who can create entire worlds, races, histories and cultures with their ideas?

Sure it sounds like over kill, and I realise most folks plug their creativity in these days, but to me its a loss just the same. A video game that might take a few days, versus a book game system that can be built off of and used for years using nothing but pencils, paper maybe a calculator and the players creativity

Comment from AW1 Tim on 2010-08-30

Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:06:02 -0600

Damn! I, too, cut my teeth on Panzer Blitz, and many another AH wargame.

Following in AH's footsteps was Yaquinto Games, and then Victory Games (and the ever-present SSI), but I digress.

A lot of those later D&D types forget that when the Great God Gax started TSR, it was "Tactical Studies & Research" and one of the first (and, IMHO, best) rules sets THEY produced was Tractics. Tractics was the first, IIRC to introduce penetration tables based upon not only the type of gun fired, and range, but also type of projectile, target aspect, farmor thickness AND slope. Rather complex, but once you got passed the learning curve, it flowed very well.

Sad to see this milestone arrive. I still have many of those games, though most of my gaming the past 30 years has been more with miniatures with the local club.

RIP Mr. Roberts

Comment from Ted (Worldgamer) on 2010-08-30

Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:58:55 -0600

Many of my friends got deep into the Avalon Hill games at my college age game store hangout. I never got into the map games, but I loved throwing down in Up Front, the card based version of Squad Leader. According to the more knowledgable players, not having the right cards on hand made an excellent approximation of fog of war difficulties of communication.

Comment from Boquisucio on 2010-08-30

Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:33:30 -0600

This geeky 'Rican, grew-up in a steady diet of Avalon Hill boardgames. We used to spread our battleships all over my friend's carport/terrace while re-enacting The Battle of Jutland. We played every single scenario of Panzer Leader and Squad Leader. Invasion of Crete was OK. And of course I loved Diplomacy.

The most complex of them all was 1942 - a recreation of the US / Japanese Gilberts and Coral Sea Campaign. You almost needed five people to make it work smoothly. One Referee/Judge to keep all unit movements secret from each side, and then one to work the Surface Units and another to work the Aerial Units from each side respectively.
I do miss those long weekend days commanding armies under our fingertips.

Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2010-08-30

Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:23:42 -0600

I think I have a copy of Tactics II in a box somewhere. I'll have to rummage a bit and see.

Comment from Justthisguy on 2010-08-30

Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:20:29 -0600

May he rest in peace. I wish I still had my copy of Tactics II, which my ex-brother stole from me. I mostly had to play it against myself, not knowing anyone else who wanted to play. Made it hard for one side to keep secrets from the other.

Comment from MikeD on 2010-08-30

Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:00:01 -0600

This is both shocking and distressing news. I have many a fond memory of playing AH games. From simple ones such as B-17 Queen of the Skies to the incredibly over-complex Advanced Squad Leader. I too shall mourn.