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            <title>A TINS!</title>
            <description><![CDATA[BTDTGTTS*Hearken back to 1978, Fort McClellan, Alabama.&nbsp; Cadet Donovan is engaged in CTLT, or Cadet Troop Leading Training, which was a 3 week add-on to ROTC&nbsp;summer camp.&nbsp; Cadets fanned out across the Army (West Pointers could score CTLT in Europe or Korea, but not us cheap kids at land grant universities) and were supposed to assume Lieutenant-level leadership positions in actual units.&nbsp; Some units were&nbsp;good at actually letting the cadets get their teeth into it.&nbsp; Others treated the CTLT&nbsp;cadets as tag-alongs.&nbsp; I got lucky.&nbsp; I spent three weeks as the functional XO of a Basic Training company.&nbsp; The real XO,...]]></description>
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            <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2010-09-02</title>
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                <![CDATA[Wussies. I've lived in Southern FL for 50 years, off and on.&nbsp; For hurricanes, you put up the shutters, fill the bathtub with water, buy a bottle of clorox and some propane and some dry cells, and Stock Up on Beer. (The Powers That Be&nbsp; might be right pissy about alcohol sales before, during and after a hurricane.)<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from DL Sly on 2010-09-02</title>
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                <![CDATA[In the Pac NW we get storms like this <em>every</em> year -- well except they tend to be closer to 40 degree temps instead of 85.&nbsp; We don't take off from work early.&nbsp; Kids don't get out of school early.&nbsp; Hell, we don't even name them.<br />
sheeeesh<br />
0&gt;;~}]]>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2010-09-02</title>
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                Whiner.
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            <title>Comment from fdcol63 on 2010-09-02</title>
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                <![CDATA[Tornados?&nbsp;&nbsp; Yeah, nothing funner than being in one of those old rickety wooden WW2 barracks in the 3000 area of Ft. Sill when those blasted tornado horns started going off. Then standing in water in the culverts until the all clear sounded.&nbsp; LOL]]>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2010-09-02</title>
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                <![CDATA[Silly people, living where there are hurricanes.&nbsp; Tornados are much easier to get along with.<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from DL Sly on 2010-09-02</title>
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                <![CDATA[Grumpy,<br />
*Meaningful* is such a relative term.....I'm gonna haf'ta take a fifth..........or three...... and get back to ya.&nbsp; Rumor has it that there's a hurricane a comin' this way, and if it's anything like the last three I've been through, it'll be pretty boring.&nbsp; But, I've got steaks thawing to grill, and we're plenty stocked on liquor and beer.<br />
0&gt;;~}]]>
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            <title>Comment from Grumpy on 2010-09-02</title>
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                <![CDATA[@DL Sly &nbsp;&quot;Hey! Where in Da Rulez does it say answers have to be *meaningful*?&quot;<br />
<br />
Has it ever stopped you?&nbsp;]]>
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            <title>Comment from DL Sly on 2010-09-02</title>
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                <![CDATA[<em>&quot;Insufficient data for a meaningful answer.&quot;<br />
</em><br />
Hey!&nbsp; Where in Da Rulez does it say answers have to be *meaningful*?]]>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2010-09-02</title>
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                <![CDATA[Insufficient data for a meaningful answer.&nbsp; It very much depends on where the grenade is.<br />
<br />
If the live grenade is in your hand - you can at least throw it at Heinrichs (and right now, he can't throw it back, what with that Blood Eagle he had done).<br />
<br />
If it's at your feet, and you're staring at the pin...]]>
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            <title>Comment from DL Sly on 2010-09-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[<p>'Tis better to have the pin in one hand than the live grenade, yessss?<br />
0&gt;;~}</p>]]>
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            <title>Comment from J.M. Heinrichs on 2010-09-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[&nbsp;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apDGPl2SfpA" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch</a><br />
<br />
<br />
Cheers<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from J.M. Heinrichs on 2010-09-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[&nbsp;&quot;...&nbsp;and a pin in one hand.&quot;<br />
... lost the grenade, again?<br />
<br />
Cheers<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from DL Sly on 2010-09-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[Well, technically I *do* have implants.....titanium screw and staple holding one ankle together and a pin in one hand.<br />
0&gt;;~}]]>
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            <title>Comment from Grumpy on 2010-08-31</title>
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                JTG, Don&apos;t brag, Don&apos;t ASS-U-ME, one day they&apos;ll land before you do. You&apos;ll be like the bare foot boy in the cow pasture, WATCHING EVERY STEP! For me, 60 is history.
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            <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[Grumpy, I don't need implants. Last time I was on a trampoline, my nearly-sixty-year-old moobs bounced right well, thankyouverymuch.<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:11:22 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Grumpy on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[@Armorer, Just be glad you can remember back to the 1970's.<br />
<br />
You write, &quot;*Perks up*<br />
<br />
She has implants?<br />
<br />
Oh, wait. &nbsp; Never mind.&quot;&nbsp;<br />
<br />
Nah, if this is truly TINS, There's a question that needs to be asked.<br />
<br />
Would this be better? &quot;HE has implants?&quot;<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:11:23 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from J.M. Heinrichs on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[&nbsp;&quot;paisley-wearing old pharts armed with nothing more than hollow aluminum tubes.&quot;<br />
<br />
Those would be &quot;BIG paisley-wearing old pharts&quot;; unless Bill was present and you'd have to mention his really splendid winter tan, all squinty eyed from peering out across the vast stretches of Arab desert ...<br />
<br />
Cheers<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[Dl, they aren't very formidable individually, but there are so _many_ of them!&nbsp; Are you familiar with the phrase, &quot;nibbled to death by ducks&quot;?<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[*Perks up*<br />
<br />
She has implants?<br />
<br />
Oh, wait.&nbsp; Never mind.]]>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[Really. It doesn't help your spelling any, either.&nbsp; <br />
<br />
Sometimes, Jim, it's just better to step away from the keyboard, rather than stoke the commentariat...]]>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[You say that like she's recently had an attention-span implanted or something...<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from JimC on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[Sir, no excuse for my error. &nbsp;I need to stop commenting from worq<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2010-08-31</title>
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                Oh, I&apos;ll just keep you wondering, methinks.
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            <title>Comment from DL Sly on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[JTG, they couldn't have been too scary if they were chased away by paisley-wearing old pharts armed with nothing more than hollow aluminum tubes.<br />
0&gt;;~}<br />
<br />
*tugs on hat*<br />
Aww, shucks, John.&nbsp; That's the nicest thing you've said to me.........whadda ya want now?<br />
0&gt;;~\]]>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[She's a Marine Wife.&nbsp; Pretty much the same thing, living, as they do, amongst dangerous predators.]]>
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            <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[DL, you sound like one of those hairy scary Swamp Wimmin we used to have around here.&nbsp; Sadly, they've mostly all been chased away by the Golfocracy.<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from DL Sly on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[&quot;...the outdoorsy, combative ones who like splodey things and want to stab spiders with knives...&quot;<br />
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You say that like it's a *bad* thing.<br />
0&gt;;~}]]>
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            <title>Comment from Saker on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[Bill-<br />
Blast. I&nbsp;guess I'd better just try to be a warrant officer then, and avoid all that nonsense. <br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[Wow, dude.&nbsp; Even if they considered you a pest, they gave you a *battalion*!?!<br />
<br />
;^&nbsp;)]]>
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            <title>Comment from JimC on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[Oh yeah, I forgot.&nbsp; Lucky me, I was sent to Germany in August 1973 to Friedberg, Germany, where Elvis was stationed obviously earlier than my appearance there.&nbsp; I got to lead a scout battalion in the 3/32 Armor.&nbsp; Elvis was in the scouts of the 1/32.&nbsp; There was Elvis memorbilia everywhere.&nbsp; So I&nbsp;made it over as an ROTC pogue in what I believe was the only year ROTC&nbsp;went overseas for CTLT.&nbsp; I believed we were considered pests. &nbsp; &nbsp; <br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[<em>I hope I never get picked for that. </em><br />
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No problem, Saker -- they don't pick the cute, perky types to be drills, they pick the outdoorsy, combative ones who like splodey things and want to stab spiders with knives...<br />
<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from Heartless Libertarian on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[When I commanded from 2003-2005, it was integrated.&nbsp; Interestingly, when I went through the orientation for incoming cadre, I sat next to a female major who had prior enlisted time, who was solidly of the opinion that the Marines have the right formula with the trainees being gender segregated, with all cadre for that company being of that gender as well.&nbsp; Eliminates all sorts of problems.<br />
<br />
Personally, I agree with her.&nbsp; Let 'em learn appropriate gender behavior and relations in AIT.]]>
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            <title>Comment from Saker on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[We had one of those cadets when we ran a range this summer. She spent most of it following my chief around like a puppy and asking questions. :)<br />
<br />
The grenade thing made me nervous. Not so much the grenades, but the PV2 having a severe panic attack next to me while clutching two live grenades. You couldn't pay me enough to be a DS. I&nbsp;hope I never get picked for that. <br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from JimC on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[Gee all the fun stuff happens to you.&nbsp; Attacked by grenades, shot by AK-47 and who knows what else.&nbsp; I had to settle for being the classic stupid 2LT firing a 203 using the leaf sight and launching a live 40mm grenade, oh, about 40 meters and it exploded.&nbsp; The range NCOs were a little cross with me.&nbsp; Did I mention I was OIC at the time?&nbsp; Of course you redlegs tried to take me out the summer of '82 but that's another story.,&nbsp; <br />
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2010-08-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[I think most of the hearing damage incidental to the incident on the vid took place during the five minutes *after* the drill got the troop back up on his feet.<br />
<br />
BTDT, Got the Shredded T-Shirt, too...<br />]]>
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