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Stray rounds...

Heartless Lib reports from Afghanistan (where he's getting pretty short these days):
Macedonians:

Although the Greeks get annoyed if you don't say "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" (FYROM)

Two Macedonian platoons - one of infantry, one of MPs - are now deployed with the 86th IBCT (VTARNG)


Heh. If you'd told me in July of 2001 that the Vermont Army National Guard would be fighting in Afghanistan with an integrated contingent of Macedonian soldiers... I'd have given you the RCA Puppy Look.

Aaaah, Denny.  I've met Denny.  He's a nice guy, plays a mean guitar, and, when pressed, lives up to the hype of his blognomen.  Get him and Jim of Parkway Rest Stop together and you'll be singing old songs with the Elderly Brothers before you know it.

SWWBO and I took ourselves from the sticks last night and did a tepanyaki dinner at the Kobe Japanese Steakhouse in the Power and Light District in downtown KCMO, and took in Straight No Chaser at the Midland Theater.  The Midland is a grand old dame, and SNC was a fun two hours.  And yes, I did catch everything the Chef tossed my way.  SWWBO... didn't.  Good music - we did get Africa as an encore, even if they didn't give us the 12 Days of Christmas (not that the crowd didn't ask for it!).  All in all a $200 night, but worth it.

Congratulations to the winners in the Milbloggies!  With a shout-out to the big sponsors of the 5th Annual Milblogging Conference, USAA and General Electric.

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Do da phrase, "Partners for Peace" ring a bell?

The Vermont Guard was paired with Macedonia in the mid-'90s, and the Joisey Guard with Albania. I gave four Albanian FA officers a hangar tour (and a rucksack full of goodies) in '98 or '99.
 
Why do I think that rucksack contained Levis and Marlboros?  LOL
 
Pens, pencils, notepads, refills for the pens, clipboards, paperclips, a hundred feet of 550 cord, four GI pocket knives, four pair of flight gloves, a couple of GI flashlights, one of my flight suits and a kneeboard for the LTC who was also an Mi-24 pilot, and some miscellaneous -- ummmmm -- stuff.

They couldn't believe I wouldn't take anything in return except a handshake.
 
When I was in Macedonia in 2000, supporting Kosovo, MPRI used some of our equipment to help train the rebuilding Macedonian Army. When my brother was in Afghanistan a few years later, the security force for his compound was a company of Macedonian infantry. Nice to know they are still hanging in there.
 
"They couldn't believe I wouldn't take anything in return except a handshake."

I think one of the most overlooked benefits of being from a land "of plenty", as we are here, is the lower level of graft and corruption we have traditionally experienced compared to others. Sure, we have it (i.e., you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours), and we probably have more than we think or know about, but it's still considered more of an aberration than the "normal" or "expected" way of doing business.
 
"but it's still considered more of an aberration than the "normal" or "expected" way of doing business."

fdcol63...evidently you don't live any where near New Jersey.
 
Um, I said,  the Vermont Army National Guard would be fighting in Afghanistan with an integrated contingent of Macedonian soldiers...  not, I never heard of the Guard working with foreigners.

Just sayin'.
 
Yup.

*wink-wink*

So you did.

*nudge-nudge*
 
Funny, aint it?, how the Greeks are all about the Macedonian thing in relation to their own greatness, when back in the day, Macedonians were considered somewhat less than human by most "real" Greeks.

It wasn't until that that Phillip dude and his kid, Alexander, that Macedonia became an excepted part of the "Greek World". That was because, by then, the Macedonians owned the Greek World, and lots of other bits and pieces.
 
We had a Greek company attached to us in Kosovo.  Their SGM was built like Lou Ferrigno, and wore more perfume than a french whore, but other than that, he was an idiot.  Kept pestering me to get him FMs on the M-60 tank, because we were a tank Unit.  An M1A1 tank Unit.  The last 19H OSUT had happened 10 years before...
I tried telling him all this, but he kept pointing at the magic computer box and telling me I could find it.

Anyway, George had two passions in life, demeaning the Turks and Compaining that the FYROM was not the FYROM, instead, Greece was Macedonia.

That's when I coined the term "FYROM-ulans," to differentiate without insulting anyone.  I also explained to George that Greece was all butt-hurt against the Turks because the Turks were better soldiers.
 
Heh. He said "butt-hurt" and "Greece" in the same sentence. Brought out my inner Beavis, you did, there, sir. 
 
I'll note that the IL NG is partnered with the Poles...the story goes that when the Poles first deployed here, the CJTF HQ was scrounging around to find people to put together an LNO team to attach to the Polish HQ.  Lo and behold, they discover there are already a group of IL NG troops there who had, by hook and crook, without specific authorization, gotten to Poland, linked up with their Polish Army comrades, and then onward to Afghanistan.

I'm sure the J1 had fun cutting them some retroactive orders.  The LNO team to TF WHITE EAGLE is still, to the best of my knowledge, filled by IL NG troops.
 
There's been a decent-sized ex-pat community in Poland ever since the mid-'90s, and I'd be willing to bet that most of the "forward-deployers" had friends or relatives already on-site. Getting into a LOD situation wouldn't have been a smart move without orders, but I can see why that wouldn't have been a primary consideration for them. It wouldn't have been for me, but I never was the brightest brick in the hod to begin with.

Cutting retroactive orders is no big deal -- I went to Boz and return on a week-long site recon in 2000 and had to wait another week to fill out my travel voucher because they hadn't cut orders yet.