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Some Gunner Zen

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The earth shakes as an M109A6 Paladin fires a gas propelled 155mm Howitzer round through the enormous canon, the biggest of Battle Kings arsenal as 1-9 Field Artillery, 2nd Heavy Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, conducts their gun calibration at Destiny Range in Mosul, Iraq, April 23. Photo by Spc. Gregory Gieske

Sometimes, DoD captioning is just... embarassing. 

When you try to sex up your caption and you don't really know what you're talking about.... sometimes KISS is a better approach, when describing a Paladin of the First Battalion, Ninth Field Artillery (Battlekings) conducting a calibration shoot at Destiny Range in Mosul, Iraq.  The First of the Ninth is a component of the 2nd Heavy Bridgade Combat Team (HBCT) of the 3rd Infantry Division.  Photo by Specialist Gregory Gieske.

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"gas propelled" should be "gas-propelled"; and, in fact, how else would it be propelled? All explosively powered projectiles are moved down the tube (barrel) by expanding gases.
"canon"; how about cannon; or, more properly, just "howitzer".
I like this site; don't degrade it by spelling or punctuation errors.

 
The spelling errors are from DoD, I believe. "Gas propelled", with or without a hypen, is just ... wrong. Setting aside the various electric rail guns, it's propelled by burning solid fuel, not gas pressure; this is not a giant air rifle.
 
"1st of the Ninth Field Artillery, 2nd HBCT, sends a passle o' whompass down range from one of their M109A6 Paladin self-propelled howitzers during a calibration shoot in Mosul, Iraq..."
 
John;

You're in trouble when an articulate, English major, who has worn battle rattle shows up....:)  Perhaps you can employ them as your editor...:)
 
John;

You're in trouble when an articulate, English major, who has worn battle rattle shows up....:) Perhaps you can employ them as your editor...:)
 
The PA folks try their best.  Sometimes I think they are set up by the "experts" they interview.  I can jsut see a redleg Sgt or Lt trying their best to talk over the poor interviewer's head and this is what you get.  (I know, I always see the dark side of people's souls)
 
You're in trouble when an articulate, English major...

This would be in addition to the double-tapping punctuation-challenged sailor?
 
Oldloadr - entirely possible.  Some of them can get sensitive about the criticism too.  A couple of years ago I really ripped into an astonishingly awful caption and the Sergeant First Class who wrote it sent me an indignant email, essentially telling me to shut my fat butt up if I wasn't out in the war like he was, then I shouldn't be critiquing his work.

I'm a C3 - Chickenhawk Caption Criticizer.

 
"gas-propelled" perhaps being dumb journalist translation for Rocket Assisted Projectile?

Are they still using RAP rounds in the 155?
 
Yep, that's sensitive. A PA Major once published a feature article about my Squadron (we were both deployed at the time to a small ME country). When he asked how I liked it, I said, "That was pretty good sir, I only counted 5 major errors." He gave me a dirty look, so I said, "Well, you asked." The problem is, even the infantry, nowadays, is so technical to a non-practitioner that it's hard for PA to translate our stories and it's hard for we "experts" to be good interviewees; not going over the interviewers head with techno-speak and at the same time not talking down to them about how the pointy end is the front...
 
As an old M110A2 guy, hard to impress me with "Big Gun" (or is that "Big-Gun"?) talk.  Only time I could truly brag about my Eight Inches.  BTW - has anyone seen a laniard stretcher, lately?

ML
 
No, John, I can't handle that task, but I do know my system sat here for 3 minutes "waiting for" you blog to take the comment, so I refreshed...I always say:  Better to be told twice than not at all! (but that applies to when you're in the middle of something critical...not like blogging)
 
Snerk.  The server has been particularly bad today, but I was more about the punctuation than I was the double-tap.  Everything I posted today double-tapped, too.

I've sent a note off to the server gnomes.  We'll see what happens.
 
Heh.  Airborne Ranger Redleg, why not double his salary and his time so he can edit every release DoD puts out?  

Dude, if you want to nitpick the free ice cream, go ahead, but remember that it is free and you don't have to eat it.  Nor does John have to put it out, but if he quit I guarantee you'd *itch about that too.  Hyphenation is literally a small thing, and depends on your style (AP, Strunk & White, GPO, Chicago, etc.).  If that's all you have to *itch about, then you've got it pretty good and might should consider a thanks or just keeping quiet.  Or, *itch in private first as a real leader would.  In case you missed it, I see a nice "Contact us" on the bottom of this page.  Mayhaps your attention to detail is a bit, er, selective...

John, hope I didn't tread into "sensitve" territory here...  Snerk.

LW 


 
Bring back the M548s! 

/end sarcasm
 
We has nits in the ice cream here?

Nit picking is a sticky business.
 
Um, well, we generally try not to jump on people who aren't regular commenters.

Once they've snapped in, like, oh, xformed up there, they're fair game.

Prolly oughta go in and change that "contact us" to a more visible color, though.   In ARR's defense, that's not very visible.
 
8" cannons?  I thought youse guys were talkin' CANNON!  Bring back the 280mm M65 - THAT'S a CANNON!
Spoff
 
I have discovered that a successful life begins with low expectations.  I do not expect the PA folks to be competent 13 series MOS types.  I do, however, expect them to be able to write the English language, and as soldiers, to be able properly use Army ranks and unit designations.

I'll probably have to move the expectation bar lower still.
 

Frank - if you want your M548, find $44k you don't need and buy one here (next to the last item on the page).

 
What we have heah, iz failyuh to c'mun'cate.  Maybe you should have done something to clearly delineate the DoD caption like, oh say, quoting it and then running a strike through (or would that be *strike-through*?  Strike through being an accepted standard for correcting or editting text in the typewritten world.) across the entire caption.    Oh, and maybe you could even throw in a snarky comment about how embarrassing it is that someone who is supposed to know better obviously doesn't......oh, wait......
nevermind.
Oooh, shiny!
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$44k?  I hope that also covers the 1st year's AAA membership.  LOL
 
Awp!  Cease Fire!  Cease Fire! When ARR first saw the post (because of the server burp) it was only the picture and caption.  I wasn't finished with it.  While I appreciate the reinforcing fires, we must ensure we're aiming at the correct target and have applied all corrections (getting those corrections is one of the reasons that crew is doing a calibration shoot).
 
If that pic was taken two days later, it would have shown everybody hip-deep in mud.

The rainy season has decided to extend itself this year...
 
Airborne Ranger Redleg, I hereby remind you, and others, that I have a copy of "Eats, Shoots, and Leaves" within arm's reach, and am not afraid to use it. Also, I love commas.
 
... we must ensure we're aiming at the correct target and have applied all corrections (getting those corrections is one of the reasons that crew is doing a calibration shoot).

You gun bunnies are so peculiar in your needs and wants for fire delivery. Just shoot up the very red and unleash the FPF! That'd clear the air, the ground, the woods a bit to our left flank, that low ridgeline a couple hundred meters to our front, and possibly cut a nice easy ramp down into that stream bed wandering near the right flank.
 
i wanted to say that out panzerhaubitze 2000 makes your paladin look old, but then i remembered that at least your howitzers get used. "and now join the army!" should have been the correct caption, by the way.
 
Grimmy, you seem dangerously like me, when it comes to laying the guns. As I have mentioned here before, I am a big fan of "That looks about right" when pointing and training crew-served pieces.  Of course, my intuitive grasp of angles and ranges and folk physics would allow me to get away with such, while lesser folks would have to study some mathematics and physics to get the same results.
 
Justthisguy:

Now, I do admit to being attracted to weapons, but I've never gone so far as to lay one. A guy's gotta have his standards.
 
Grimmy, I hereby bow and defer to the lowness and badness of your sense of humor. 
 
JTG - yeah, that shite works with mortars.

Eric, I still miss my Crusader.  And the only way your PzHbtz 2000s got to Afstan was in the back of USAF C17s...  but we did appreciate the effort.
 

548s?  Bah! If you want a useless POS, how 'bout them gamma goats?  Who thought that was a good idea?

Now, back in the day.....  I was a very long-toothed keydet awaiting my comission, long story, nevermind the details, but I was at Ft. Sill with my Army Reserve unit of 155s.  Yes, I know, it was an oddity of the Reserve system at that time...

Anyway, we were on our annual AT, continuining in our habit of outshooting the regular Army pukes, when the Battery leadership had to depart the area for some silly confab.  You know the deal.

A few minutes after their departure, what should appear over the hill, but a full series of Army trainees... formed up in what I deemed an aggressive posture...

Guess who was in charge of battery defense and saw a prime opportunity for a training moment?  (And yes, I  had been given a very wide latitude in our batteries training... another long story.)

Sooo, the whistles blew, the response team formed up and every howitzer in the battery traversed turrets and laid in their guns for direct fire...  Where is a beehive round when you need it?

I could hear the screams, hooping and hollering from seemingly a mile away as the whole series unassed the position and frantically scrambled back over the hilltop... hmph, so much for discipline.

Shortly thereafter, the battery command returned and while I was given some very odd, stern and possibly amused looks... nobody said a thing... at least not to me.

Oddly enough, at the end of AT, the Commanding General made a side note complimenting the aggressive readiness of Charlie Battery... 

heh... just, heh....
 
Kevin - you want a GAMA Scrote?  Just click here.
 

Feh, heck no, useless, deafening things.

I would be far more interested in the Mules and the Weasel. 

Outa curiousity, did you get your bid in on the 105?  Only, $55k.  SWWBO loves you, don't she?
 
Yup, the good thing about mortars is that you can mostly see what you're doing. The bad thing about mortars is that the enemy can see what you're doing. There have been radar sets dedicated to finding mortars for at least as long as I have been alive, and I am pretty old. "Green Archer" comes to mind. 
 
Oh, Kevin? I so lust after a weasel. It is the perfect vehicle for this part of FL.
 
8"? That's a subcaliber sleeve for the 80cm Gustav, yes?