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            <title>Rifle, Survival, M6</title>
            <description><![CDATA[Regarding the previous whatziss... you were right, and you were wrong, those of you who said it was an M6 survival rifle.&nbsp; You were wrong, those of you who said it was one of the more recently manufactured clones, but hey, you couldn't have known.You are all to be forgiven in that regard, since this rifle is in fact a variant rifle, of the type characterized by the &quot;FrankEnfAusers&quot;...&nbsp; the Turkish Mauser barrelled, Enfield receivered, and mixed stock rifles.This double-gun started life as an Ithaca-built M6, property-marked USAF, and barreled in .22 Hornet and .410 shotgun, with the short barrels...]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:56:25 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Spiff on 2010-03-02</title>
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                <![CDATA[John,<br />
I guess things have changed since I had my gunstore some 20 years ago, I was licensed to deal in Class 3 and Class 2 stuff.&nbsp; I had an opertunity to take an M2 marked, semi auto, carbine in on a trade, but had some doubts and call DC for an &quot;opinion&quot; and was told &quot;once an M2, always an M2&quot;, that BATF looked at the original design, an M2 receiver designed as a select fire weapon.&nbsp; I also put in a bid for 4 SAS (Scandavian Airway Systems) Armalite AR-10's that had been made as semi autos for cockpit use and was told by BATF that I could not bring them in the country as they were designated as select fire and could not be brought in even though they had never been in a select fire mode...Times do change!<br />
Spiff<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:28:21 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2010-03-02</title>
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                <![CDATA[I've been trying to warn people about Bill, specifically those innocents over at Cap'n Lex's place.<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 01:07:42 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2010-03-01</title>
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                Actually, Casey, I had to ponder it a bit myself. I&apos;ll put up something on it tammarra!
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:15:08 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Casey on 2010-03-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[Looks like a top-break gun to me, but I'm darned if I can see how you select barrels.<br />
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:02:40 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2010-03-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[Spiff - I beg to differ.&nbsp; The ATFE is very specific about machineguns and machingun recievers (though they have lost that argument in court once, but I don't remember off the top of my head which court it was, as it doesn't matter to where I live):<br />
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<em>&quot;Machinegun. Any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machine gun, and any combination of parts from which a machine gun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession under the control of a person.&quot;<br />
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</em>The only definition of a short-barrelled rifle is this:&nbsp; &quot;<em>Short-barreled rifle. A rifle having one or more barrels less than 16 inches in length, and any weapon made from a rifle, whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise, if such weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than 26 inches.&quot;<br />
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The M6 actually has to meet the stricter (well, longer) definition for <em>short-barreled shotgun</em>, i.e., a barrel length of greater than 18 inches - which is why this one was rebuilt to be 18.5 inches, so as to leave no room for interpretation in length.&nbsp; No discussion of receivers in the ATF regs&nbsp;like there is for machine guns.<br />
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In the NFA Handbook, there is a specific discussion of a simliar weapon:&nbsp;&quot;<em>NOTE: One version of the Marble&rsquo;s Game Getter was produced with 18-inch barrels and a folding shoulder stock. This <strong>model of the Game Getter, as manufactured, is not subject to the provisions of the NFA because it has barrels that are 18 inches in length and the overall length of the firearm, with stock&nbsp;extended, is more than 26 inches. </strong>However, if the shoulder stock has been removed from the 18-inch barrel version of the Game Getter, the firearm has an overall length of less than 26 inches and is an NFA weapon. Specifically, the firearm is classified as a weapon made from a rifle/shotgun.&quot;<br />
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Emphasis mine.&nbsp; <br />
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There is also a specific discussion of the M2 Carbine:&nbsp; <em>The &ldquo;combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun&rdquo; language refers to a group of parts designed and intended to be used in converting a weapon into a machinegun. A typical example is those M2 carbine parts that are only used to permit fully automatic fire in a US Carbine M1 or M2.<br />
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there is a diagram of the parts in the handbook]<br />
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The above parts consisting of an M2 selector lever, selector lever spring, disconnector lever assembly, M2 disconnector, disconnector spring, disconnector plunger and M2 hammer are classified as a machinegun. These parts are used specifically for fully automatic fire and have no application in a semiautomatic carbine. While other parts such as an M2 sear, operating slide, trigger housing and stock are used in the fully automatic carbine, these parts are also appropriate for use in semiautomatic M1 carbines.Therefore, the M2 sear, operating slide, trigger housing and stock are not a combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun.</em><br />
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As I read the ATF's publications - this gizmo, in the configuration it is in, would not fall under the NFA as an AOW.<br />
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<em><strong>That said -&nbsp;I&nbsp;am not a lawyer, so don't go citing me as your defense if you get hauled into court.&nbsp; Hire David Kopel or one of the other firearms law brainiacs.</strong></em>]]>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:51:30 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Spiff on 2010-03-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[Hate to tell ya' this, but BATF still considers this as an M6 as that is what the receiver is regardless of a barrel change out...An M2 (select fire) carbine receiver with M1carbine internals and bolt is still an M2, not by practical sense, but by BATF standards!<br />
Spiff&nbsp; <br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:34:05 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2010-03-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[Well, my young apprentice, take a look at the linked pictures of the action and tell me what <em>you</em> think.<br />
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And own your answer, don't couch it in the form of a question.]]>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:56:45 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from The Young Man on 2010-03-01</title>
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                Is it lever or break-action?
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            <pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:47:49 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2010-03-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[They've had lots of practice -- cheap subterfuge is my for-<em>tay</em>...<br />]]>
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