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  <title>Comments for Is there an adult in there somewhere?  Bueller?  Bueller?</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2010-02-03T13:03:14Z</published>
    <updated>2010-02-03T14:08:35Z</updated>
    <title>Is there an adult in there somewhere?  Bueller?  Bueller?</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[It sure doesn't look like it.CNN's Steve Brusk tweets:&nbsp;&quot;Law enforcement source says AbdulMutallah has been providing useful, current, and actionable intelligence. Leads being actively chased.&quot;Heh.&nbsp; This is smoke and mirrors, pure and simple.Let's take it at face value.It's been a month since AbdulMutallah proved himself an inept murderer-by-suicide.&nbsp; Hell, he's not even as successful as Achmed the Dead Terrorist.&nbsp; Achmed at least got the suicide part down, and scored a good acting job as a follow on.A month in which Attorney General Holder's&nbsp;Justice Department facilitated&nbsp;AbdulMutallah's silence by allowing him to lawyer-up, and not get interrogated by intel specialists with the...]]></summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>It sure doesn't look like it.<br /><br />CNN's <a href="https://twitter.com/stevebruskCNN/status/8561369372">Steve Brusk tweets</a>:<em>&nbsp;&quot;Law enforcement source says AbdulMutallah has been providing useful, current, and actionable intelligence. Leads being actively chased.&quot;</em><br /><br />Heh.&nbsp; This is smoke and mirrors, pure and simple.</p><p>Let's take it at face value.</p><p>It's been a month since AbdulMutallah proved himself an inept murderer-by-suicide.&nbsp; Hell, he's not even as successful as Achmed the Dead Terrorist.&nbsp; Achmed at least got the suicide part down, and scored a good acting job as a follow on.<br /><br />A month in which <em>Attorney General Holder's&nbsp;Justice Department facilitated&nbsp;AbdulMutallah's silence</em> by allowing him to lawyer-up, and not get interrogated by intel specialists with the knowledge and experience to ask the right questions and to&nbsp;understand what they were hearing.<br /><br />Um, here's a thought straight from US&nbsp;military training - if you are captured and have actionable intelligence, delay and obfuscate as long as you can, knowing that people will be assessing the damage and reacting accordingly.&nbsp; Then, it's okay to start releasing what is now stale information rather than submit to having people nibble off your toes with heated horseshoe nail-benders.<br /><br />Guess what?&nbsp; As soon as al&nbsp;Qaeda knew that the A-man was in custody, they were evaluating what they believed he knew, and acting on that - moving people and hard assets around, abandoning safe houses, changing timetables and dropping plans while devising new ones.&nbsp; They actually have a *lot* of experience at this.&nbsp; Decades of it, in fact.&nbsp; In environments where their enemies can be really pragmatic about intel-gathering, with little regards for comfort of the accused or the tender sensibilities of academics and trans-national elites.<br /><br />One month later, the only&nbsp;people we're going to find are the stupid ones, and the plans we find are the&nbsp;plans&nbsp;they *want* us to find.&nbsp; If we get anything else, that will just be pure dumb luck on our part combined with poor tradecraft on their part.&nbsp; Emphasis on dumb.&nbsp; We'll be wasting assets and time chasing chimeras and things that go bump in the night - which is exactly what they want us to do as they re-set and re-posture themselves.</p>And if we were serious about at least policing up the stupid ones... we wouldn't be releasing the info, in leak form or not, until we were sure we'd gotten what we could out of it.&nbsp; Which means warm bodies in custody, or rapidly-assuming-room-temperature ones in the morgue.&nbsp; Then you make an announcement.&nbsp; Oh, wait - no, if you really make that announcement, it's *after* you get done developing and acting on any further intel that was gathered.<br /><br />Well, that's what you do if you are serious about what you're doing, and not posturing for your peeps.<br /><br />Which means - either the people involved in the leak are *breathtakingly stupid and naive* or this is an information operation aimed at the American people to show them how really cool the government actually is and this whole law enforcement approach really *is* the best way to do it.<br /><br />Uh-huh.&nbsp; Either way, it's breathtakingly stupid.&nbsp; One is simply more venal than the other.]]>
      
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2010://1.11917-comment:98298</id>
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    <title>Comment from Fishmugger on 2010-02-03</title>
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        <name>Fishmugger</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[Not being too well versed in schmart legal stuff; is it possible to &quot;un-Mirandise&quot; someone. And did we do it in his native language, Nigerian? If we didn't do it in his native language, is it still effective legally? Just because he spoke English doesn't mean he understood what was said. I love this stuff. Defense lawyers sit up all night working on stuff like this while the prosecutors are in a bar working on their careers. You become the Attorney General because you are a good politician not a good lawyer.]]>
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    <published>2010-02-03T21:16:57Z</published>
    <updated>2010-02-03T21:16:57Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2010://1.11917-comment:98295</id>
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    <title>Comment from Grumpy on 2010-02-03</title>
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        <name>Grumpy</name>
        
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        Sorta sounds like John wants to be the adult in this BS factory. It doesn&apos;t matter, if they came from *Yale* or Harvard, they&apos;re still morons. Good luck, John. *By the way, make sure, you know where and how to wear your armor. These people cover your back, way too closely.*
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    <published>2010-02-03T20:41:04Z</published>
    <updated>2010-02-03T20:41:04Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2010://1.11917-comment:98287</id>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2010-02-03</title>
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        <name>AFSister</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[1id... I am afraid you are correct, especially after Emanuel's remark about &quot;f-ing retarded liberals&quot; opposed to Obama's health care plan, and Obama's &quot;Vegas&quot; comments that have surfaced this week.]]>
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    <published>2010-02-03T17:49:37Z</published>
    <updated>2010-02-03T17:49:37Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2010://1.11917-comment:98284</id>
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    <title>Comment from 1idvet on 2010-02-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>1idvet</name>
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        <![CDATA[Teh Stupid runs deep in this administration.<br />
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    <published>2010-02-03T16:46:15Z</published>
    <updated>2010-02-03T16:46:15Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2010://1.11917-comment:98281</id>
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    <title>Comment from Spiff on 2010-02-03</title>
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        <name>Spiff</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[It's not that they, the Intelligence Services, are &quot;unpatriotic or unloyal&quot;, it's just that they are loyal and partiotic to the President and his party, not to the United States of America!<br />
Spiff<br />]]>
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    <published>2010-02-03T15:48:00Z</published>
    <updated>2010-02-03T15:48:00Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2010://1.11917-comment:98279</id>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2010-02-03</title>
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        <![CDATA[I'm coming up short on calling them unpatriotic or unloyal, but have no problem admitting that stupid, dumba$$ mistakes were made when handling this guy immediately after apprehending him.&nbsp;]]>
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    <published>2010-02-03T15:34:35Z</published>
    <updated>2010-02-03T15:34:35Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2010://1.11917-comment:98277</id>
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    <title>Comment from fdcol63 on 2010-02-03</title>
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        <name>fdcol63</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[I still think calling them &quot;stupid&quot; or &quot;naive&quot; is too charitable.&nbsp; I find it difficult to believe that Harvard and Ivy League-educated people are that stupid or clueless.<br />
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The only way this makes sense is if you start with the premise that they want the OTHER&nbsp;side to win.<br />
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So yes, I question their patriotism and their loyalty.<br />
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    <published>2010-02-03T15:28:52Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2010://1.11917-comment:98276</id>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2010-02-03</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Here's the thing that is cracking me up today:&nbsp; <strong><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/02/us.terror.attacks/index.html?hpt=T2" rel="nofollow">Another attempted terrorist attack on the US is &quot;certain&quot; within the next 3-6 months.</a><br />
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NO KIDDING.&nbsp; REALLY?????</strong><br />
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In other news... snow and rain are likely to hit the country before the end of the year.&nbsp; No.&nbsp; Really.&nbsp; I'm serious.&nbsp; I'm certain of it.<br />
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And your analysis of AQ's actions after Abdul the Inept Terrorist's actions are 100% spot on:&nbsp; old plans have been modified or scrapped, based upon what he knew at the time.&nbsp; None of his personal knowledge is likely to have an impact on preventing any terrorist attacks at this point.&nbsp;</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-02-03T15:23:30Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2010://1.11917-comment:98274</id>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2010-02-03</title>
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        <name>Barb</name>
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        <![CDATA[Can I have one from column a and column b?&nbsp; It's an Info-Op, but they are still breath-takingly stupid.&nbsp;]]>
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    <published>2010-02-03T14:47:24Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2010://1.11917-comment:98271</id>
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    <title>Comment from fdcol63 on 2010-02-03</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This failure is why &quot;senior intelligence officials&quot; basically prediced a serious&nbsp;AQ terror attack within 3-6 months:<br />
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<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6169565n" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6169565n" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6169565n</a></a><br />
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As Instapundit says,&nbsp;the country is&nbsp;in the very best of hands. [/end sarcasm]</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-02-03T13:54:57Z</published>
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