We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2010 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:11:22 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2012 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:09:49 -0600
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There is a hero to thank.

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Also, I may be wrong, but you don't have to actually pass away for the purple heart.  The wounded are also a possibility.
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Sure. And Fred Phelps is a Christian, and he says "God hates fags" in the name of Christianity...

By the same logic, Tim McVeigh spoke for Roman Catholics, libertarians, and the NRA, although I seriously doubt those organizations would recognize either his creed or his actions.

Just because he self-identifies with Islam doesn't make him a good Muslim. In fact, I could make a good case that he is a Muslim convert with serious personal issues who used the concept of martyrdom to validate his own psychoses and desire for self-immolation.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and a self-deluded whackjob ditto.

And maybe you should ask Elsheba Khan about her son.
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Seems to me a CinC/CO can't say they're eligible for PH without tainting the trial...

Does that sound right?
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I also have read the GEN John Pershing view. If we find out that views are correct, then we should take a slab of bacon and put it between his own hams.  Then, fry it, in place. Bye, Bye 72 young virgins. May he find that he has all MALE virgins for eternity.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95098 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95098 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:07:11 -0600 hasn't had time to properly appeal...]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95088 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95088 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:20:25 -0600
One thing I wonder:  Fort Bragg (which has roughly the same number of soldiers as Fort Hood) has it's own police tactical (SWAT) team.  I've even seen the guys - some kid reported a man with a gun outside our housing area, and nobody stopped to think "Hey, isn't it a maneuver area on the other side of that fence?".  So why did Fort Hood have to call in the county sheriff's SWAT team?

When my wife was working patrol duty as an MP, my biggest comfort was that this kind of thing is extremely rare on post.

Oh, and on the subject of military death sentences: I thought a serial killer/rapist from Bragg was at the end of his appeals, and due to be disposed of soon - did that happen?]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95087 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95087 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:06:42 -0600 ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95086 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95086 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:03:32 -0600
And didn't wash her hands.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95084 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95084 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:47:43 -0600
I've been thinking, too.  The sad thing is, I came to the conclusion that there is no way Pres Obama can let that happen.  To do so would be to acknowledge the danger we live in and that the wars we are fighting are not isolated to some place "over there."  I really don't think he believes that, and there's no way his supporters would tolerate him making the statement that giving Purple Hearts would imply.
]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95083 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95083 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:44:56 -0600 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95081 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95081 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:42:49 -0600 cause célèbre.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95080 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95080 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:42:04 -0600
On balance, I think not.  Less of a circus that way.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95079 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95079 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:34:11 -0600
He was Muslim, and he killed in the name of Islam.

People can make whatever moral and cultural equivalency arguments they want about how similar these beliefs may be to Christianity and other religions, but this misses the point.

Whatever this religion is, or whatever brand or sect of Islam it is, it is mutually incompatible with us and with the kind of culture and society we'd like to live in. We can not co-exist with it, and it poses a direct threat to our basic rights of life and liberty. It must be eradicated if we OURSELVES are to continue.

It's stupid to ignore it or to pretend that it's not there.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95078 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95078 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:32:02 -0600
We have facilities at Fort Leavenworth that could be used for shooting him.  But that would be an honorable death, in a sense.  He should go down as a criminal, however much he is being revered in other circles.

Oh, it's the *Gulf* of Tonkin, fellas.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95077 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95077 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:30:12 -0600 Ahh! It just went off! Wonderful smell of smokeless powder fumes ascending to Heaven! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95076 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95076 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:25:46 -0600 Am lighting another prayer candle to Saint Barbara in the oven here. For justice! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95073 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95073 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:19:23 -0600
Firing squad would work as well.  Or has the DB outsourced weapons qual to the state of KS as well?

On a different note, if MAJ Hasan had self-enlisted in the global jihad, and thus was committing an act of war against the United States, will the soldiers be thusly listed as KIA/WIA, and eligible for Purple Hearts, and any military personnel engaged in taking him down further eligible for Combat Infantry/Action Badges?]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95070 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95070 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:54:28 -0600
Apparently, i'm prejudice against Muslims because I assumed that Maj. Hasan was acting on ideology instead of a psychotic break due to PTSD.  Which natrally leads to my inability to perceive the terrible price of PTSD and the probability that hundreds and thousands of soldiers are ready to snap and go on a shooting rampage.  Evidenced by the fact that PTSD exists and that some soldiers have actually acted violently. 

Followed by some commentary on the fact that the guy obviously believed in his cause, a cause that is apparently equal to our own if I followed the idiotic, went to the moon and back logic of the discussion.

That occured at the Olive Garden last night, very loudly.  The waitress was scared to come to our table with the checks I had signaled for when I knew the argument was getting out of hand.  I felt forced to break the laws of appropriate debating techniques by raising my voice and expressing my opinion about my opponent in terms that are not printable on a PG-17 website.  Mainly that he should shut the F*** up because he was an f******* moron and it was probably f******* morons like him that voted in Jesus Christ Super Star for president. 
]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95069 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95069 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:36:26 -0600 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95068 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95068 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:33:39 -0600 Gurney, Hell! Article III, Section 3, Paragraph 1 of the Constitution of the USA was most publicly heinously murderously egregriously horrendously violated by a guy who had solemnly sworn an oath in front of God and everybody to defend said Constitution. As I wrote in email, previously, Git A Rope! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95067 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95067 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:06:06 -0600 ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95064 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/11/fort_hood_post.html#comment-95064 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:41:27 -0600