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            <description><![CDATA[Over at CNN, author Rita Mae Brown talks about animals. I&rsquo;m going to do a little tongue-in-cheek&nbsp;fisking. Not much, as I agree with most of what she says &ndash; and where I disagree, it&rsquo;s usually funny.&nbsp; But with our 8 horses, 7 goats, peafowl family, chickens, guineas,&nbsp; ducks and 10 cat, 3 dog Castle, we see things a touch differently here.&nbsp; I'd envy her those fox hounds except... they're high maintenance to care for properly!&nbsp; The CNN.com article lists Ms. Brown as&nbsp;&quot;a novelist, a gay rights and feminist pioneer, a writer of two mystery series and an animal lover. She...]]></description>
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            <title>Comment from Casey on 2009-11-06</title>
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                <![CDATA[Um, guys? That's not racism, that's specieism. Mmkay? :)<br />
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John, when you speak of horse's preference for shelter, do you mean snug'n'warm, or just out of the wind/rain/snow is good enough? <br />
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I got thrown from a horse once. It was my fault. I was learning to ride, and had gotten the rein signals and the foot signals backwards, so my hand was saying &quot;turn right,&quot; while my foot was saying &quot;turn left.&quot; Actually, the horse just stood there ignoring me, no doubt hoping I&nbsp;would get a clue. So, I lightly kicked with my heels as a hint to get going, and clicked my tounge. Kind of a &quot;Hello, McFly?&quot; moment.<br />
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The horse glanced back at me, kinda <em>twitched</em>, and the next thing I&nbsp;know I'm lying on the ground looking up, thinking &quot;what just happened?&quot; <br />
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My instructor said I&nbsp;had good instincts, since I kept hold of the reins. :)<br />
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I don't doubt that equine was thinking &quot;Tool....&quot; Heh. <br />
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            <pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:49:12 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Katherine Optima Maximae on 2009-11-06</title>
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                <![CDATA[Let's see...my dog ate dog poop.&nbsp; Wolves and other predators routinely eat their own poop to disquise their presence from prey or eat the poop of other predators in order to destroy their markings on the reigning predators' territory.<br />
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I am very sure that precludes them from being culinary experts. <br />
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Animal racisim?&nbsp; Not as extreme as the human variety?&nbsp; Ms. Brown has obviously never had cats of different breeds, not raised together, confined in her house.&nbsp; We introduced a new cat that looked like all the other cats, white with black or gray spots.&nbsp; After some initial displeasure at her arrival, everything was good.&nbsp; Introduced a striped tabby and WWIII erupted and has yet to be settled.&nbsp; These cats go at it claw and tooth.&nbsp; Without human intervention, I'm certain there will be serious injury, probable maiming and possible death.<br />
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Oh...did I mention the cats hate the dogs and the dogs hate the cats?&nbsp; The cats actually attack the neighbor's dogs.&nbsp; There is some obvious prejudice there.&nbsp; Possibly because dogs see cats as food, but does that preclude inter-species prejudice?<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:08:00 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Leslie on 2009-11-05</title>
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                <![CDATA[Goats are most definitly racist. I gave up trying to raise two different breeds of goats because they fought all the time. My Saanen doe would run clear across the pen just to bash one of the Nubians. In most mixed herds, I have seen this repeated many times. It's not just pecking order, it's clearly deliniated by breed. I have lots less fighting now that all of my goats are one type (long floppy ears on all of them). <br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from Grimmy on 2009-11-05</title>
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                <![CDATA[I've had both dogs and cats from time to time, and yeah, they'll do that &quot;we need to talk&quot; thing.<br />
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Dog most likely by shredding everything in the living room that can be shredded while you're gone.<br />
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Cats by seeking out your shoes to puke into.]]>
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            <title>Comment from steve cpo ret on 2009-11-04</title>
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                <![CDATA[&nbsp;.00000001 milliseconds. &nbsp;You have that right!]]>
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            <title>Comment from Rod Thorsen on 2009-11-04</title>
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                <![CDATA[Several times a year, for almost 10 years now, I recieve a &quot;Pre-approved&quot; credit card offer for Dorie Thorsen, one of my cats.&nbsp; Without opposible thumps, I've no idea how she called that 1-800 number to request it.<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2009-11-04</title>
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                I agree with you about horses, except for ponies. They all seem to born disgruntled. Gal I used to know had some pony experience when a kid. She swore her pony knew where every low tree limb, at human horseback head-height, existed for miles around.

On &quot;we need to talk&quot;, my kitty starts gently; just a paw on the calf, claws retracted. Then there&apos;s just a touch of the hooks; then if I&apos;m pre-occupied on the Net or something, there will be effusion of blood. (My kitty seems a bit more autistic than most- he never meows, just does physical actions to communicate. E.g., he kicks an empty beer can around when he wants me to open a can of wet food
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            <title>Comment from Argent on 2009-11-04</title>
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                <![CDATA[I know little about horses but dogs most definitely do lie.&nbsp; A lot.<br />
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They don't always know when they will die.&nbsp; <br />
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Dog's talk in action.<br />
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There was no contract.&nbsp; We eat most of these animals you know.<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-11-04</title>
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                <![CDATA[The horses also like... sugar.&nbsp; Whether in the form of crystallized maple syrup or little white cubes.<br />
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They also like shelter from weather - especially if it is constructed in such a way as to allow them to come and go as they please.]]>
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            <title>Comment from bad cat robot on 2009-11-04</title>
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                <![CDATA[And while I love horses, Ms. Brown never encountered the mare I refered to as &quot;Ebola&quot;, who was a vicious, nasty piece of work I would have cheerfully sent to the glue factory.&nbsp; There is a range of personality in all critters.&nbsp; Some of that range isn't nice.&nbsp; Humans aren't *that* special, and we don't have a monopoly on nasty.<br />
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I would say we have a symbiotic relationship with the domesticated animals.&nbsp; We used the speed and strength of horses, and in return we gave them horsehoes and used our little fine motor control fingers to get the nasty sharp stones that get stuck.&nbsp; Also carrots, which are difficult to grow on the prairie, not to mention dig up with hooves.&nbsp; The horse I&nbsp;have been riding assures me carrots make it *all* worthwhile.<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from Cortillaen on 2009-11-04</title>
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                <![CDATA[<blockquote>
A dog may steal from you but will never lie to you.
</blockquote>Yeah right.&nbsp; Maybe you should tell that to my family's dog, who digs in the trash, then runs and lays down on her bed, pretending to be asleep,&nbsp;when she hears someone coming.<blockquote>
However, she does not carry around the notion of her individual death. This, I believe, is the true gap between us and other sentient creatures.
</blockquote>Some would argue that the former is actually the <em>lack</em> of&nbsp;sentience, but then we'd get into a semantical argument courtesy of vague and multiple definitions.&nbsp; I simply consider it the delineation of self-awareness in the metaphysical sense.&nbsp; We worry about existence after death because we have both the capacity to consider&nbsp;such an abstract (in the purest sense of the word, since there is no sensory input on which to base considerations) concept&nbsp;and, whether many people acknowledge it or not, a sense that there is more to our existence than a physical body.&nbsp; &quot;If you wonder if you have a soul, you do.&quot;&nbsp; Animals are the sum of their existence, whereas we are more.]]>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:07:56 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from olga on 2009-11-04</title>
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                <![CDATA[oh yeah, they give you their &quot;we have to talk&quot; as often as your human companions...]]>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-11-04</title>
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                <![CDATA[<em>One of the reasons we made a social contract with domesticated animals years ago was to &quot;borrow&quot; their power, speed, senses. </em><br />
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We domesticated the cat, the dog and the horse for that. The rest we domesticated for *food*.<br />
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No animal will ever speak those dreadful words, &quot;We have to talk.&quot; </em><br />
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She's evidently never been around an old dog who knows his or her time is coming. They *will* tell you -- just not in words...]]>
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