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  <title>Comments for Townhall SITREP...</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2009-09-02T00:46:34Z</published>
    <updated>2009-09-02T02:47:35Z</updated>
    <title>Townhall SITREP...</title>
    <summary>I don&apos;t know how many of our regular readers have attended townhalls this season, but I thought I&apos;d let you know how mine went...
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      <name><![CDATA[Dusty (AKA <em>Attila of Argghhh!</em>)]]></name>
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      <![CDATA[I don't know how many of our regular readers have attended townhalls this season, but I thought I'd let you know how mine went...<br /> <br /> I live in an upper mid-West town in Indiana; the Second District, to be exact, and my Congressman is a Democrat who unseated <a href="http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2009/04/chocola_elected_president_of_t.php"><u><strong>Chris Chocola</strong></u></a>&nbsp;two cycles ago. Joe Donnelly seems to be a nice-enough chap. He carries himself well, and doesn't give the impression he marches in lock-step with his party on all issues. At the &quot;townhall&quot; I attended, he trumpeted his bonafides as an independent...interesting, and telling, especially in light of the fact that many Americans are rising up in white-hot anger over the clumsy (thank God) way the Dems are trying to impose socialized medicine on the country.<br /> <br /> But I digress...<br /> <br /> The gathering was held outside his offices in downtown Logansport because the number of people who showed up exceeded the office space available indoors...over 100, if I remember correctly. Sounds like a pittance, but we're talking middle America, where people are slow to anger. That said, the planned venue (a local supermarket) was changed at their request after what was usually a 12-15 participant event became a 400+ one recently.<br /> <br /> The overall resistance-to-support ratio vis-a-vis health care was about 5 to 1. Nevertheless, the next day's local paper quoted only one person...one of two people holding signs supporting Obama's attempt to redefine health care in this country. Odd, that. Not surprising, though.<br /> <br /> After the event, we were accosted by what I considered a plant (based on his scripted question to Rep. Donnelly after several anti-ObamaCare questions to the Congressman)...ostensibly a postal worker...who just couldn't fathom why we were so opposed to The Messiah's vision for America. A quick note: I had asked for the mic and related our experience in Holland (horrid, <a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/04/the_road_to_hel.html"><u><strong>as I have related in previous posts</strong></u></a>) and, according to my daughter, garnered the most applause during the meeting...a biased sampling, I will be the first to admit. <br /><br />In any case, this guy wouldn't let my wife finish a sentence when she tried to describe to him what she had endured. He dismissed our experience as &quot;just one case&quot; and thus not legitimate as a counter-argument to ObamaCare.&nbsp;In short, he seemed to be asking, &quot;Who you gonna believe, me, or your lying eyes?&quot;<br /> <br /> In any event, it was interesting and I think the Rep. got a further taste of the resistance to The Borg healthcare proposal.<br /> <br /> Did it do much good? I dunno. But I will be following up with an email promise to the good Congressman to the effect that I will volunteer my time to oust him if he votes for this monstrosity. For what it's worth, I think it would help a lot if those of you reading this go <a href="http://www.freeourhealthcarenow.com/"><u><strong>here</strong></u></a> and, if you haven't lent your voice via this petition, do so.<br /> <br /> I hope we win this thing. And, if we don't, I hope we take back the Congress ASAP so we can turn this ship away from the iceburg that is socialized health care as soon as possible. -Attila<br type="_moz" />]]>
      
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.11253-comment:92885</id>
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    <title>Comment from Cortillaen on 2009-09-03</title>
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        <name>Cortillaen</name>
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        <![CDATA[On the issue of the difficulties of terminating welfare programs, may I direct your attention to a quote from the all-too-distant-in-popular-memory past:<blockquote>
&ldquo;We put those payroll contributions there so as to give the contributors a legal, moral, and political right to collect their pensions and their unemployment benefits. With those taxes in there, no damn politician can ever scrap my social security program&rdquo;<br />
President Franklin Roosevelt recalling why social security<br />
was based on payroll contributions, 1941
</blockquote>While Roosevelt may have simply been cementing a political monument, he had the right idea for its longevity.&nbsp; Once integrated into that gargantuan behemoth we call the tax code, removing any bill, much less one as virulently invasive as state-run healthcare (anyone else tired of the &quot;public option&quot; euphemism?), becomes such a daunting task even Sisyphus would prefer his own.&nbsp; State-run health will share the persistence of Social Security and Medicare just as much as it will share their financial stability.]]>
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    <published>2009-09-03T05:39:38Z</published>
    <updated>2009-09-03T05:39:38Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.11253-comment:92854</id>
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2009-09-02</title>
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        <name>Cricket</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[We all have a dog in this fight; it is our taxes and our ability to choose and manage our healthcare, as well as the physicians who are going to be treating us.&nbsp; I&nbsp;have Tri-Care, but that could change.&nbsp; My children have coverage until age 23 if they are in college.&nbsp; That is an excellent deal for us, considering the cost of healthcare per family if you are self-employed.&nbsp; I would rather open up the market to competition instead of a mandate that we have to pay for and settle for substandard care.]]>
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    <published>2009-09-02T17:33:59Z</published>
    <updated>2009-09-02T17:33:59Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.11253-comment:92830</id>
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    <title>Comment from Harvey on 2009-09-02</title>
    <author>
        <name>Harvey</name>
        <uri>http://www.badexample.mu.nu/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[Never say &quot;impossible&quot; in a country where a Constitutional Amendment was once reversed.<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-09-02T14:10:47Z</published>
    <updated>2009-09-02T14:10:47Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.11253-comment:92827</id>
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    <title>Comment from Argent on 2009-09-02</title>
    <author>
        <name>Argent</name>
        <uri>http://www.gaymilitarylife.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[Karen is right.&nbsp; Once it's passed it will be difficult (not strictly impossible perhaps politically impossible) to reverse.<br />
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I don't have a dog in this fight.<br />
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Was anything covered besides healthcare or is that the whole point?<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-09-02T13:18:37Z</published>
    <updated>2009-09-02T13:18:37Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from R Jewell on 2009-09-02</title>
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        <name>R Jewell</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[I sure hope Rep Donnelly doesn't toe the party line on this, and I would imagine that he's smart enough not to bow to the pressure.<br />
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I've had the opportunity to sit down with him one on one a couple of times in DC, (even though he's not my Rep) and he's been a good man to have on the side of Veterans, particularly the recent GI Bill Legislation.<br />
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And........he's smart enough not to grab the biggest, best looking donut on the plate at breakfast.<br />
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    <published>2009-09-02T12:10:43Z</published>
    <updated>2009-09-02T12:10:43Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Karen on 2009-09-01</title>
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        <name>Karen</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[One of the things I am most worried about is that if this ridiculous legislation does pass, it may be impossible to reverse. I am so proud of my fellow countrymen for stepping up to the plate on this one and shouting from the rooftops that we are tired of being had.<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-09-02T04:30:13Z</published>
    <updated>2009-09-02T04:30:13Z</updated>
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