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  <title>Comments for Some Gunner Zen</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2009-07-27T12:45:30Z</published>
    <updated>2009-07-27T12:53:35Z</updated>
    <title>Some Gunner Zen</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[Some pics to soothe a gunner's soul.&nbsp; Well, actually, one of 'em makes us nervous, because pilots do silly things like *drop* our guns...Out and about with the new...And in with the old, for some refurbishment....]]></summary>
    <author>
      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[Some pics to soothe a gunner's soul.&nbsp; Well, actually, one of 'em makes us nervous, because pilots do silly things like *drop* our guns...<br /><br />Out and about with the new...<br /><br /><img alt="Marine Staff Sgt. William McGowan, right, and Marine Cpl. Thomas Down, both assigned to Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron 262, look down through the &quot;hell hole&quot; in the belly of a CH-53E &quot;Sea Stallion&quot; helicopter while transporting an M777 155-mm Howitzer during an artillery airlift exercise. The 31st MEU and HMM-262 are embarked aboard the forward-deployed amphibious assault ship USS Essex. Essex is participating in exercise Talisman Saber 2009, a biennial, joint, combined exercise sponsored by U.S. Pacific Command and the Australian defense force. Photo by Seaman Gabriel Weber" src="http://www.fototime.com/0DC8EDD4CC3B30F/orig.jpg" /><br /><br />And in with the old, for some refurbishment.<br /><br /><img alt="Transportation personnel at Naval Support Facility Dahlgren prepare to off-load a World War I-era tractor-mounted artillery piece, the first gun originally test fired to mark the establishment of Dahlgren as a naval proving ground on Oct. 16, 1918. The 7-inch, 45-caliber gun will be restored by the Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division. " src="http://www.fototime.com/9EEBDDF8168299E/orig.jpg" />]]>
      
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.11080-comment:91463</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-07-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[Um, well the *caption* which apparently you can't read by mouse-over except in IE7 sez...<br />
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&quot;Marine Staff Sgt. William McGowan, right, and Marine Cpl. Thomas Down, both assigned to Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron 262, look down through the &quot;hell hole&quot; in the belly of a CH-53E Sea Stallion helicopter while transporting an M777 155-mm Howitzer during an artillery airlift exercise. The 31st MEU and HMM-262 are embarked aboard the forward-deployed amphibious assault ship USS Essex. Essex is participating in exercise Talisman Saber 2009, a biennial, joint, combined exercise sponsored by U.S. Pacific Command and the Australian defense force. Photo by Seaman Gabriel Weber&quot;<br />
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But one rectangular hole in the floor of a helo looks like pretty much any other rectangular hole in the bottom of a helo...]]>
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    <published>2009-07-29T12:13:37Z</published>
    <updated>2009-07-29T12:13:37Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.11080-comment:91462</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-07-29</title>
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        <name>BillT</name>
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        <![CDATA[<em>My sense of scale is shot on that photo.</em><br />
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Why? It's dangling under a Chit-Hook, which is obvious from the shape of the crewchief's hatch -- and which also clues you to the close scale -- plus the apparent size of the cargo straps means it's about 23.75 feet below the aircraft, so that should help with the linear aspect. The apparent foreshortening of the wheels helps a lot, but the shadows are a dead giveaway that the pic was snapped at 1038, plus-or-minus five minutes.<br />
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See? Easy.<br />
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Ummmmm -- what?<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-07-29T12:05:12Z</published>
    <updated>2009-07-29T12:05:12Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.11080-comment:91460</id>
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    <title>Comment from Casey on 2009-07-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Casey</name>
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        <![CDATA[My sense of scale is shot on that photo. Now that you point it out, I can see/comprehend the spades, and the wheels. It still looks (to me) like the whole thing is only 6-10 feet long. I&nbsp;suspect that's because the gun is far enough below the chopper to cause that illusion. To my eye, the gun seems to be just below the belly of the helicopter.<br />
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I use Firefox 3.0.12 under WinXP SP2. Alas, no mouse-over ALT tags appear here, either. <br />
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    <published>2009-07-29T04:07:47Z</published>
    <updated>2009-07-29T04:07:47Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-07-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[BTW, Casey - can you not see the captions if you mouse over the picture? &nbsp;I'm curious - because I've found so that that IE8 does not display alt tag data from the blog.]]>
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    <published>2009-07-28T17:53:17Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.11080-comment:91430</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-07-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        From that angle, the forward-placed wheels, with the spades right at the end of the gun are good id points.
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    <published>2009-07-28T17:50:15Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.11080-comment:91428</id>
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    <title>Comment from Casey on 2009-07-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Casey</name>
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        <![CDATA[Thanks. Couldn't tell a darn thing from that angle, and perspective. <br />
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    <published>2009-07-28T17:24:58Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.11080-comment:91399</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-07-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        That&apos;s an M777 Casey.
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    <published>2009-07-28T11:22:34Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Casey on 2009-07-28</title>
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        <![CDATA[Ok, what gun is in the upper photo? <br />
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    <published>2009-07-28T05:02:03Z</published>
    <updated>2009-07-28T05:02:03Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Grimmy on 2009-07-27</title>
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        <![CDATA[&quot;Gotta watch them jarheads. They will steal anything not nailed down. Even 7&quot; guns.&quot;<br />
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Marines never steal anything. BUT!! Anything left unattended and/or unguarded is obviously unwanted and therefore up for grabs.<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-07-28T02:29:48Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John (not the armorer) on 2009-07-27</title>
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        <name>John (not the armorer)</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[Gotta&nbsp; watch them jarheads.&nbsp; They will steal anything not nailed down.&nbsp; Even 7&quot; guns.<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-07-28T01:31:06Z</published>
    <updated>2009-07-28T01:31:06Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.11080-comment:91384</id>
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    <title>Comment from MAJ Mike on 2009-07-27</title>
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        <![CDATA[Youzaaa!!&nbsp; Amazing how so much heavy metal can produce a woody!]]>
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    <published>2009-07-27T21:27:58Z</published>
    <updated>2009-07-27T21:27:58Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from AW1 Tim on 2009-07-27</title>
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        <name>AW1 Tim</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[<br />
&nbsp; That 7&quot; gun is wicked kewl..... Great story too!<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-07-27T16:30:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Kirk on 2009-07-27</title>
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        <![CDATA[Interesting story with that gun...and additional pics:<br />
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<a href="http://www.patriotfiles.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109952" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.patriotfiles.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109952" rel="nofollow">http://www.patriotfiles.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109952</a></a><br />]]>
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    <published>2009-07-27T13:52:55Z</published>
    <updated>2009-07-27T13:52:55Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-07-27</title>
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        <![CDATA[Whoo -- you wouldn't believe the hole an M114 falling 2,000 feet makes in a wet rice paddy.<br />
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Heh -- same guy who dropped two of our shot-up Charlie models. For a while, we joked that the Inkeepers' motto was, &quot;There is no load so big, heavy, or expensive that we can't punch it off.&quot;<br />
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After they dropped the howitzer, it sorta ceased to be a joke...<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-07-27T13:20:08Z</published>
    <updated>2009-07-27T13:20:08Z</updated>
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