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            <description><![CDATA[Since we don't know the history of the vehicle, I'm thinking I'll just make it a Castle jeep.

So, I'm going to use a simple straight up&nbsp;alpha-substitution cipher for the registration number. 

Which one d'you like better?

US ARMY
311920125 = Castle

Or,

US ARMY
11377888 = Argghhh

That's what it would look like on the hood.&nbsp; According to the sources, Army registration numbers normally started with 20, but... hey.

I'm thinking about this for bumper markings:

5A-FFCA CA-6

Which means 5th Army (that's the guys who are currently responsible for the land defense of&nbsp;North America, better known as ARNORTH) and the FFCA means Fighting Fusileers of Castle Argghhh!, which is what I called my Soldier's Angel fund-raising teams.

CA-6 means Castle Argghhh 6, with 6 being the traditional bumper number of the commander's vehicle. I could also go with the more traditional HQ-6

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            <title>Comment from jim b on 2009-06-25</title>
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                <![CDATA[Ah so... I&nbsp;guess Nellie Belle is right out then?]]>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-06-25</title>
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                <![CDATA[LC&nbsp;- Excellent idea, and I'm surprised it never occured to me.&nbsp; That would be Delta Battery, 5th Missile Battalion, 55th Artillery, and is exactly the correct period.&nbsp; And would serve to remind people there were once nukes at Fort Leavenworth.]]>
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            <title>Comment from lvncenturion on 2009-06-25</title>
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                <![CDATA[John,<br />
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I'm weighing in late on this, but had to give this serious matter some serious thought.&nbsp; <br />
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USA No.:&nbsp; Whatever rings your bell, your faithful correspondents have made some good suggestions.<br />
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Bumper No:&nbsp; Your plan is a big negatory.&nbsp; This is an historic vehicle and deserves historically accurate bumper numbers.&nbsp; What were you thinking?&nbsp; In view of your interest in a local connection to your vast estate, I suggest that you use the designation for the artillery battery that manned the nearby Nike site.&nbsp; The proper period would be 1957-1960, so that would be before the split between Air Defense and Field Artillery which should assuage your bent against duck hunters in favor of cannon cockers.&nbsp; At that time, they were Redlegs all.<br />
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Now, I don't know what unit might have manned said battery, but a quick trip to the CAC Library should provide an answer.&nbsp; The BC would of course be assigned HQ - 1 and you are all set.&nbsp; Ensure that you use proper colors, stencils, etc. - you cannot drive some jakeleg poser in a Veterans Day parade.<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from MAJ Mike on 2009-06-25</title>
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                <![CDATA[My understanding was that the use of the numeral &quot;6&quot; for the unit commander was strictly unofficial.&nbsp; Officially per Division SOP, HQ-1 was the Commander's vehicle.&nbsp; HQ-2 was the XO, HQ-3 was the S-3.&nbsp; <br />
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Don't remember the logic for the other staff weenies, but we exercised both official and unofficial call-signs.&nbsp;As Battalion and DIVARTY S-4, I took whatever vehicle the Motor CWO assigned me.&nbsp;&nbsp;Bad COMSEC, I know, but hell, Ivan knew where we were and who we were anyway.<br />
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For external radio traffic, we used the daily CEOI assignments.]]>
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            <title>Comment from cannonball on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[This is not difficult.&nbsp; The S1 was 1, the S2 2, etc. in call signs, once upon a time.&nbsp; The vehicle bumper numbers followed that same convention for principal staff.&nbsp; It was natural to assign 5 to XO and 6 to CO.&nbsp; Commo 10; Survey 15 etc.&nbsp; BCs 26, 46, 66;&nbsp; XOs 25, 45, 65, etc.&nbsp; I forget the others but this was an Army-wide convention until late 60s.&nbsp; The only bumper number deviation I came across was the 82nd Abn Div, where the Bn CO had HQ1, BC had C1, etc., but the callsigns followed convention.<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[RJ - you're correct, at least through the early 60's.&nbsp; TB 746-93-1, &quot;Color and Marking of Military Vehicles, Construction Equipment and Materials Handling Equipment&quot; dated October 1964 gives the following guidance in Secton III, Para 9, sub-para j:<br />
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j. The vehicles will be numbered as indicated below.<br />
(1) This marking is the sequence number of the vehicle in the normal order to march within the unit to which it is assigned.<br />
(2) Vehicles assigned to any headquarters will be numbered with the vehicles of the appropriate headquarters unit, and will be given the lower sequence numbers used therein.<br />
(3) Vehicles assigned to transportation motor pools may be assigned numbers in any appropriate sequence.<br />
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Sometime during the Vietnam adventure, probably due to radio callsigns, 6 got fixed as the commander's vehicle in many units.&nbsp; I know it was in all the units I served in - except when I commanded HHB, then, because the DIVARTY Cdr already had HQ6, my truck was HQ66.<br />
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Good thing I didn't have yet another subordinate commander....]]>
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            <title>Comment from R Jewell on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[6 is the traditional number of the Commander's jeep?&nbsp; Originally, those numbers designated the order of march for a convoy.<br />
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I can't recall ever seeing anything except HQ 1 parked in front of the Orderly Room.<br />
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<a href="http://www.lonesentry.com/panzer/jeep-markings.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lonesentry.com/panzer/jeep-markings.html</a><br />
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            <title>Comment from JW on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[HQ-6??? is the wife driving the Jeep?&nbsp; Probably should read HQ-5 if you are the asigned driver.]]>
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            <title>Comment from MAJ Mike on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[Whoops.&nbsp; Should've pre-viewed before submitting.<br />
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Number should read &quot;1369007&quot;.]]>
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            <title>Comment from MAJ Mike on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[Well, if it was an Infantry MOS involved, it would be &quot;136900&quot; -- an unlucky c**ksucker with a license to kill.&nbsp; I'd go with the ARRRGH numerical series.&nbsp; HQ-6 is the appropriate bumper number.<br />
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Can anyone explain the origin of using &quot;6&quot; as the commander's call sign?&nbsp; <br />
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Did it have anything to do with the late 1960's TV series &quot;The Prisoner&quot;?&nbsp; The hero of the story was &quot;Number 6&quot;.<br />
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Our mech batallion adopted BOHICA as our internal call sign (for various reasons) and our internal call signs were BOHICA-6 (Bn CDR), BOHICA-3 (Bn S3), BOHICA-A6 (Alfa Company Cdr), etc.<br />
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There must be a story behind it somewhere.]]>
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            <title>Comment from Grumpy on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[&nbsp;John,<br />
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Ancient languages, speaking, reading and writing was a part of my job spec. It's no big deal when you compare it with your background, even the stuff you figured was not worth the effort to remember.&nbsp;<br />
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@Fishmugger, You wrote, &quot;I can see where this is going, and I will not lower myself to partake in such perfidy.&quot; Now you wrote that you would not lower yourself to that point, Are sure you don't mean raise raise yourself to that very same point? Join the rest of us, *SNARK*! Don't worry, you'll still be a &quot;Total failure at being a pompous A$$.&quot;<br />
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@John, all of that *and* common sense! My father always paraphrased Voltaire. I believe it is quite appropriate here. The paraphrase sounded like this, &quot;Common sense ain't all that common.&quot;]]>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[HH - someone around here does have either a Kubelwagen or a &quot;Thing&quot; modded to look like one.<br />
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I got rolled in a Thing when I was in college.&nbsp; Not sure I want to give&nbsp;one another chance to kill me...<br />
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We are going to kit it out with a pintle-mounted machine gun.]]>
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            <title>Comment from Kirk on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[OK..let's go real obscure.&nbsp; Use your alpha-substitution scheme (any 2-digit number add together to get one digit), along with the redleg theme:<br />
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A&nbsp;R&nbsp;T&nbsp;I&nbsp;L&nbsp;L&nbsp;E&nbsp;R&nbsp;Y = 192933597<br />
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Just don't forget...the meaning of life is 42.]]>
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            <title>Comment from H H on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[On the comment about being a redleg, the number could be 75105155203.&nbsp; The US Army used to have pack howitzers of 75 mm caliber during WWII.&nbsp; I admit the number would be two digits longer, but it would be more accurate.&nbsp; One problem with such a number system would be the fact our troops often used anything they got their hands on, which included enemy firepower.&nbsp; Allied forces sometimes used the pound rating such as the British 3 pounder, etc.<br />
I suggest tricking it out like the jeeps on the television show, &quot;The Rat Patrol&quot;, and then you could get an old vehicle named, &quot;The Thing&quot;, and turn it into a German desert car.&nbsp; The VW Thing is pretty close to the old German vehicle used during the war.]]>
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            <title>Comment from Fishmugger on 2009-06-24</title>
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                I can see where this is going, and I will not lower myself to partake in such perfidy.
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[Kirk - that's a good thought, too.<br />
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And, as I've just demonstrated, I don't know my Greek alphabet very well.&nbsp; For the record, I swiped it from Chuck Z's email sig, where the second word is in lower case.<br />
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Since I do intend to run this in parades and such, I'm thinking the&nbsp;&quot;know your mother in an excessive and socially unacceptably way&quot; offerings are probably not going to make the cut.&nbsp; I can just see me explaining the bumper markings to a curious onlooker there with his or her children.<br />
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Snafu and fubar can work, as &quot;fouled&quot; can be substituted for the Anglo-saxon pressure release.]]>
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            <title>Comment from Kirk on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[You're a redleg...how about:<br />
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US&nbsp;Army<br />
105155203<br />
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I know...rather mundane and obscure.]]>
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            <title>Comment from AW1 Tim on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[John,<br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp; There's also the various standard acronyms.......<br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp; SNAFU-6; &nbsp;&nbsp; FUBAR-6; &nbsp;&nbsp; FYBIJAR-6;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; FYBIRA-6;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; FYBING-6,<br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp; or my favorite:&nbsp; FYBIBM-6&nbsp; (as in eff you buddy, I bayoneted mySELF 6.<br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Personally, anyone who bayonets himself is seriously hardcore in MY&nbsp;book.&nbsp; :)<br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp; heh<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from Grumpy on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[John,<br />
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Just curious, in your comment, #3, you write, <br />
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&quot;Or to get *really* obscure - M(Lambda, lower case Greek 'L')-6&quot;<br />
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Now, if you wanted to go to the upper case &nbsp;of the same letter, to do the upper case of that letter in the Greek, just do an inverted &quot;V&quot;.<br />
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Have some fun!<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[It'd be less obscure if you went with a <em>faux</em> marble background -- or frame it between a pair of Mi-2s and get *really* obscure...<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from Eric Wilner on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[I think the Greek letters make it less obscure, not more.&nbsp; But shouldn't that be a capital lambda, for consistency?<br />
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[Bill, hadda think about that one a bit.&nbsp; That fits.&nbsp; If I wanted to get really obscure, ML-6.<br />
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Or to get *really* obscure - &Mu;&lambda;-6]]>
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            <title>Comment from fdcol63 on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[I'd suggest that the CA in CA-6 is kinda redundant with the CA in FFCA, so I'd recommend that you just go with the traditional HQ-6.<br />
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Or maybe BAMF-6:&nbsp; &quot;Bad @$$ MoFo-6&quot;.&nbsp; LOL]]>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-06-24</title>
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                <![CDATA[&quot;2A - TKABA - HQ-6&quot;<br />]]>
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