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  <title>Comments for Statement of President Barack Obama on Release of OLC Memos</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2009-04-17T04:27:10Z</published>
    <updated>2009-04-16T19:38:53Z</updated>
    <title>Statement of President Barack Obama on Release of OLC Memos</title>
    <summary>Statement of President Barack Obama on Release of OLC MemosThe Department of Justice will today release certain memos issued by the Office of Legal Counsel between 2002 and 2005 as part of an ongoing court case. These memos speak to techniques that were used in the interrogation of terrorism suspects during that period, and their release is required by the rule of law. My judgment on the content of these memos is a matter of record. In one of my very first acts as President, I prohibited the use of these interrogation techniques by the United States because they undermine...</summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[<blockquote><div>Statement of President Barack Obama on Release of OLC Memos<br /><br />The Department of Justice will today release certain memos issued by the Office of Legal Counsel between 2002 and 2005 as part of an ongoing court case. These memos speak to techniques that were used in the interrogation of terrorism suspects during that period, and their release is required by the rule of law. <br /><br />My judgment on the content of these memos is a matter of record. In one of my very first acts as President, I prohibited the use of these interrogation techniques by the United States because they undermine our moral authority and do not make us safer. Enlisting our values in the protection of our people makes us stronger and more secure. A democracy as resilient as ours must reject the false choice between our security and our ideals, and that is why these methods of interrogation are already a thing of the past. <br /><br />But that is not what compelled the release of these legal documents today. While I believe strongly in transparency and accountability, I also believe that in a dangerous world, the United States must sometimes carry out intelligence operations and protect information that is classified for purposes of national security. I have already fought for that principle in court and will do so again in the future. However, after consulting with the Attorney General, the Director of National Intelligence, and others, I believe that exceptional circumstances surround these memos and require their release.<br /><br />First, the interrogation techniques described in these memos have already been widely reported. Second, the previous Administration publicly acknowledged portions of the program &ndash; and some of the practices &ndash; associated with these memos. Third, I have already ended the techniques described in the memos through an Executive Order. Therefore, withholding these memos would only serve to deny facts that have been in the public domain for some time. This could contribute to an inaccurate accounting of the past, and fuel erroneous and inflammatory assumptions about actions taken by the United States . <br /><br />In releasing these memos, it is our intention to assure those who carried out their duties relying in good faith upon legal advice from the Department of Justice that they will not be subject to prosecution. The men and women of our intelligence community serve courageously on the front lines of a dangerous world. Their accomplishments are unsung and their names unknown, but because of their sacrifices, every single American is safer. We must protect their identities as vigilantly as they protect our security, and we must provide them with the confidence that they can do their jobs.<br /><br />Going forward, it is my strong belief that the United States has a solemn duty to vigorously maintain the classified nature of certain activities and information related to national security. This is an extraordinarily important responsibility of the presidency, and it is one that I will carry out assertively irrespective of any political concern. Consequently, the exceptional circumstances surrounding these memos should not be viewed as an erosion of the strong legal basis for maintaining the classified nature of secret activities. I will always do whatever is necessary to protect the national security of the United States . <br /><br />This is a time for reflection, not retribution. I respect the strong views and emotions that these issues evoke. We have been through a dark and painful chapter in our history. But at a time of great challenges and disturbing disunity, nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past. Our national greatness is embedded in America &rsquo;s ability to right its course in concert with our core values, and to move forward with confidence. That is why we must resist the forces that divide us, and instead come together on behalf of our common future. <br /><br />The United States is a nation of laws. My Administration will always act in accordance with those laws, and with an unshakeable commitment to our ideals. That is why we have released these memos, and that is why we have taken steps to ensure that the actions described within them never take place again.</div></blockquote><br /><br /><em>&quot;My judgment on the content of these memos is a matter of record. In one of my very first acts as President, I prohibited the use of these interrogation techniques by the United States <strong>because they undermine our moral authority and do not make us safer.</strong> Enlisting our values in the protection of our people makes us stronger and more secure. A democracy as resilient as ours must reject the false choice between our security and our ideals, and that is why these methods of interrogation are already a thing of the past. <br /><br />In releasing these memos, it is our intention to assure those who carried out their duties relying in good faith upon legal advice from the Department of Justice that they will not be subject to prosecution. The men and women of our intelligence community serve courageously on the front lines of a dangerous world. <strong>Their accomplishments are unsung and their names unknown, but because of their sacrifices, every single American is safer. </strong>We must protect their identities as vigilantly as they protect our security, and we must provide them with the confidence that they can do their jobs.&quot;<br /></em><br /><br />Well, except for those who undermine our moral authority and don't make us safer.&nbsp; Emphasis mine.<br /><br />Mind you, I don't have a problem with the release of the memos.&nbsp; <br /><br />Oh, and I think I'll be saving this line for later, when the gun bills reach his desk:&nbsp; &quot;<em>A democracy as resilient as ours must reject the false choice between our security and our ideals.&quot;</em>]]>
      
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10644-comment:87490</id>
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    <title>Comment from fdcol63 on 2009-04-17</title>
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        <name>fdcol63</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[Put them in a room and force them to watch HOURS and&nbsp;HOURS of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.<br />
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THAT's torture.]]>
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    <published>2009-04-17T12:08:40Z</published>
    <updated>2009-04-17T12:08:40Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Josh on 2009-04-17</title>
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        <name>Josh</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[In this day and age, apparently &quot;feelings&quot;&nbsp;are considered just as vital as &quot;bones&quot;, and as such, Americans making prisoners take their clothes off is just as bad as North Vietnamese breaking prisoners' backs.<br />
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Of course, by this standard, the number one perpetrator of torture is probably college students (on themselves and their friends and fellow students), so I'm not really sure why nobody's pushing for a huge pogrom against fraternities...except MAYBE that it would reveal how stupid this politically correct nonsense is.<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-04-17T05:39:31Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10644-comment:87480</id>
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    <title>Comment from Casey on 2009-04-16</title>
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        <name>Casey</name>
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        <![CDATA[Considering the practices listed (slamming prisoners into walls, waterboarding, cold rooms, forced nudity) aren't really torture, I&nbsp;fail to see just of what Bush and Company should be ashamed.<br />
<br />
Slamming people into walls is informally known to our servicemen as &quot;wall-to-wall counseling,&quot; or (as I was reminded tonight by an old friend) &quot;blanket parties.&quot; Ok, the latter was actually related to bars of soap, but the principle stands. :)<br />
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As for waterboarding, we still to that <em>to our own troops</em>, and I've yet to see even <strong>one</strong> of these yahoos try to eliminate the practice from SERE training.<br />
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From what I've read of Uncle Jimbo's description of the more physical interrogation techniques over at blackfive, you'd sustain greater punishment playing rugby. Unpleasant, yes; torture, no.<br />
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Or do the objectors believe time-outs and asking nicely work more efficiently?<br />
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    <published>2009-04-17T03:49:18Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-04-16</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[Jay - you *do*&nbsp;understand that far less has changed in actuality than the rhetoric indicates?<br />
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As for &quot;cleaning up our messes&quot;... check back tomorrow for a new messes being made.]]>
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    <published>2009-04-17T02:48:51Z</published>
    <updated>2009-04-17T02:48:51Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Lamigra on 2009-04-16</title>
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        <name>Lamigra</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[<em>Bush &amp; Cheney should be ashamed of themselves</em><br />
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Why?&nbsp; IMHO, _President_ (TYVK) Bush&nbsp; was dealt a hand he did not expect<br />
, nor did anyone else...who would have?&nbsp; He played that hand as best he could.&nbsp; <br />
<br />
Q:&nbsp; Have we been hit, directly, again?<br />
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A:&nbsp;&nbsp; No, not IMNSHO<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-04-17T02:05:32Z</published>
    <updated>2009-04-17T02:05:32Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Jay on 2009-04-16</title>
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        <name>Jay</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[BZ&nbsp;to POTUS!<br />
<br />
Get this out in the open, end it &amp; move on.&nbsp; Let the world know we can clean up our messes.<br />
<br />
Bush &amp;&nbsp;Cheney should be ashamed of themselves, but I suspect they don't really understand, so probably aren't.]]>
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    <published>2009-04-17T01:46:13Z</published>
    <updated>2009-04-17T01:46:13Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10644-comment:87459</id>
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    <title>Comment from Lamigra on 2009-04-16</title>
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        <![CDATA[Or other orifice, more appriately.....<br />
<br />
<em>&ldquo;&hellip;fold them 'til they're all sharp corners and shove them up their........&rdquo;</em><br />
<br />
RAH, sort of......<br />
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    <published>2009-04-17T00:12:11Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Fishmugger on 2009-04-16</title>
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        <![CDATA[Since, as President, he has already stopped the use of the methods outlined in the memos, what useful goal does it serve by releasing this information to our enemies? What possible reason can there be to disclose method and actions?<br />
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This guy is dangerous and he should shove that memo up his nose. He has no idea how or what our enemies can do with information like this.<br />
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I can't believe these people are that stupid.]]>
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    <published>2009-04-16T20:12:03Z</published>
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