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  <title>Comments for Now here&apos;s some fun.</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2009-04-29T10:26:04Z</published>
    <updated>2009-04-29T12:25:07Z</updated>
    <title>Now here&apos;s some fun.</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[WWII Army training movie.Mind you - it's from Live Leak, which can have some objectionable ads&nbsp;if you click&nbsp;through to their site&nbsp;- so&nbsp;pay attention to where you are.&nbsp;Part 2This movie probably dates from mid-1943, given that the AT grenade has a February 1943 manufacture date on it - and probably was made after we'd invaded North Africa&nbsp;and been there long enough to have brought back some german tanks and gear&nbsp;for technical evaluation and training purposes, like the MkIV used in the film.&nbsp; The &quot;German soldiers&quot; of the 6th Infanterie Regiment are versatile soldiers, since they crew the tank, too.&nbsp; And, let's...]]></summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[WWII Army training movie.<br /><br />Mind you - it's from Live Leak, which can have some objectionable ads&nbsp;if you click&nbsp;through to their site&nbsp;- so&nbsp;pay attention to where you are.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center"><object width="450" height="370"><param value="http://www.liveleak.com/e/a7d_1240819390" name="movie" /><param value="transparent" name="wmode" /><embed width="450" height="370" src="http://www.liveleak.com/e/a7d_1240819390" wmode="transparent" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed></object><br />&nbsp;</div>Part 2<br /><div style="text-align: center"><object width="450" height="370"><param value="http://www.liveleak.com/e/655_1240833450" name="movie" /><param value="transparent" name="wmode" /><embed width="450" height="370" src="http://www.liveleak.com/e/655_1240833450" wmode="transparent" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed></object></div><br /><br />This movie probably dates from mid-1943, given that the AT grenade has a February 1943 manufacture date on it - and probably was made after we'd invaded North Africa&nbsp;and been there long enough to have brought back some german tanks and gear&nbsp;for technical evaluation and training purposes, like the MkIV used in the film.&nbsp; <br /><br />The &quot;German soldiers&quot; of the 6th Infanterie Regiment are versatile soldiers, since they crew the tank, too.&nbsp; <br /><br />And, let's just say that even by this point in the war, the anti-tank weapons section is... um, well, *optimistic*&nbsp;comes to mind.<br /><br />I think I'm going to try the &quot;bucket test&quot; at the Castle, using the M4, M1, and M1A, if I can find a suitable tree in a place I can get a safe angle to take the shots from.<br /><br />And yes, we'll record it.&nbsp; H/t, Kevin.]]>
      
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10695-comment:88094</id>
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    <title>Comment from Josh on 2009-04-29</title>
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        <name>Josh</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[No no, I believe you.<br />
<br />
Kevin - How much armor can those new SLAP .50 BMG rounds penetrate?<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-04-30T03:19:28Z</published>
    <updated>2009-04-30T03:19:28Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10695-comment:88080</id>
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    <title>Comment from Kevin on 2009-04-29</title>
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        <name>Kevin</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[<br />
Re: The 37mm AT vs German tanks...  well as a child, I <strong><em>KNEW</em></strong> that Ol' Jeb Stuart and the Haunted Tank could knock out Tiger tanks with their lil' pop gun.&nbsp; It happened in every issue of that great old comic book.<br />
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But, to my childish mind (nothing has changed, spare me the snarks) I&nbsp;always thought that was overkill... I mean, really now, the Rat Patrol routinely blew up Nazi tanks with their jeep mounted .50 calibers.<br />
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I saw it every week on TV, it <strong><em>MUST</em></strong>&nbsp;be true.<br />
<br />
Or are nasty old hard facts again destroying my willing suspension of disbelief ?<br />
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Drat......<br />
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To be fair, I <em>suppose </em>that every 37mm shell and .50 caliber round <em>could</em> drive down the barrel of the Jerry tank and blow up their ready round.......&nbsp; <br />
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I suppose......<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-04-29T19:55:54Z</published>
    <updated>2009-04-29T19:55:54Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10695-comment:88078</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-04-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[Josh - not exactly sure how to take your &quot;haha&quot; - so, in case you think I'm pulling your leg... <a href="http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/branches/Infantry.htm" rel="nofollow">I'm not</a>.<br />
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This time, anyway.]]>
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    <published>2009-04-29T19:18:17Z</published>
    <updated>2009-04-29T19:18:17Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10695-comment:88077</id>
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    <title>Comment from Neffi on 2009-04-29</title>
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        <name>Neffi</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[<strong>Everyone</strong> knows you disable a tank by rolling underneath and placing a grenade in the tracks- <em>blannggg! </em>- and the track disintegrates.<br />
That's how Sgt. Fury did it, anyhoo...]]>
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    <published>2009-04-29T19:10:11Z</published>
    <updated>2009-04-29T19:10:11Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10695-comment:88076</id>
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    <title>Comment from Josh on 2009-04-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>Josh</name>
        
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        Haha now I know...
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    <published>2009-04-29T18:53:19Z</published>
    <updated>2009-04-29T18:53:19Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-04-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Josh - crossed flintlocks are the branch insignia of the Infantry.
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    <published>2009-04-29T18:38:04Z</published>
    <updated>2009-04-29T18:38:04Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Josh on 2009-04-29</title>
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        <![CDATA[VERY COOL!&nbsp; I enjoyed that immensely.&nbsp; Not sure why the title card of the video shows flintlock weapons, though...<br />
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I wonder about the 37mm AT gun...they claim, what, a 30 rpm sustained firing rate?&nbsp; Maybe a single 37mm round wouldn't pierce the frontal armor on a Panzer IV, but could sustained firing on the same area have done the job?&nbsp; Given 20 seconds to put 10 rounds on target, I'd interested to see whether a PIV could have withstood that.<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-04-29T17:10:12Z</published>
    <updated>2009-04-29T17:10:12Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Kirk on 2009-04-29</title>
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        <name>Kirk</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[Why aren't the &quot;Germans&quot; allowed to return fire?<br />
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Seriously...although it make look impressive in a training environment, I am highly sceptical about a US&nbsp;infantryman sitting in his hidey-hole waiting for a Pzkw&nbsp;IV to pass by so he can employ his rifle grenade.&nbsp; If we are to believe any of SLA&nbsp;Marshall's work, I&nbsp;doubt this occurred with any frequency.]]>
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    <published>2009-04-29T16:41:11Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10695-comment:88059</id>
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    <title>Comment from Boquisucio on 2009-04-29</title>
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        <![CDATA[I couldn't help but notice that though plenty is talked about the 37mm AT Gun, nary a word on the 75mm Pack Howitzer.<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-04-29T16:07:27Z</published>
    <updated>2009-04-29T16:07:27Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-04-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[Not one comment on this yet.&nbsp; I'd have thought this one would have drawn you like flies to road kill.]]>
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    <published>2009-04-29T16:02:10Z</published>
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