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is this from the original demo tape of that Sylvester Stallone film? It isn't a Schwarzlose or Maxim.
Prop gun from a BAD 1930s science fiction film.
Or maybe a predecessor (or experimental evolution) of the M1919?
In my expert opinion, yes, it's a weapon. May just be a bludgon, though..... *squints*
/silly
Because of the initial velocity of 35 meters/sec squared and a tax of three beer pre/hour. It required a specially trained "Regular Force Putty Commando" to operate it from 20 meters and closer, only after it was deployed on Friday and thee thousand "Hail Marries" where pronounced in the village.
Since it was so new it required a very exacting safety routine. It went as follows:
The first IA and Stoppage. Consisted of:
Drop the dam thing, go back for the forth beer.
The second IA and Stoppage. Consisted of:
The hell with number one. Repeat number one until no beer is left.
The Third IA and Stoppage. Consisted of:
The hell with this, lets go home for more beer because the tavern is out of beer due to so many IA's and Stoppages.
Repeat as necessary!
Yes, one would wonder. Along with wondering what the hell one is looking at in the first place. My best guess is that, in this film, the Austro-Italian Empire has allied with America against the mutant alien zombie forces.
If you look closely, you'll observe that it isn't Chico Marx playing an Italian soldier; it is in fact Teller playing Chico playing an Italian soldier. The film (working title: Operation Grapefruit) is due to be released late this summer, and features several dozen of today's comedians playing 1930s comedians battling an extraterrestrial horde.
The prop gun is modified from one made, oddly enough, in Spain, in 1973, for a movie which was never filmed. Note the polyethylene belt carrying 9mm Largo blanks; this is a dead giveaway, despite the dressed-up barrel. The effect when Teller/Chico fires it is... well... you'll just have to wait for the leaked video on YouTube.
Wow, I didn't even notice that. Good eye!
What caused the Mk II to be discarded however was an unfortunate incident with Il Duce himself when a misfired spaetzle lodged in his left nostril. After that the whole production run of Spaetzle-Schpitters was scrapped and none were ever seen again.
The Italians were allies during WW1, so there's no reason to assume they'd not have either been given stocks of weapons from other allied countries, or given license to manufacture them.
Reasons for my guess...
Receiver block appears too long to be a maxim. The ammo belt that shows has already been fired and appears to be a cloth belt, that means it's not a Browning. The extension of the barrel in front of the water jacket appears to be common in Vickers guns.
I don't know what it is (though a dismounted tank gun is my best guess thus far) but I'm certain it's not a Vickers - at least not a model I'm aware of.
The water jacket argues against it being an aircraft gun - though the germans, at the end of the war when Luftwaffe bombers were pretty much worthless flying gunnery targets, the did take aircraft machine guns, put waterjackets on them, and issue them to ground forces.
Surely if anyone could I.D. it, it would be him. I just didn't know that I would Stump the Chump.
I've looked at the Skoda guns, too. Not one of them.
Not a Maxim-derivative, either.
I'm beginning to think Josh and Eric are right... it's a movie gun!
That's a bridge we'll cross when we come to it. Right now, I don't see any geographic obstacles that would merit that level of engineering effort.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSLbwYXiTpU
Browning M1917 clone. Name for it was CKM wz. 30
Left hand feed. Cloth belt. Water cooled.
If the sight block is stripped off the upper receiver...
Closest I've found, so far, on the uniform points to either Italian national or uniforms patterned on same which were rather common in the Balkan parts of the Austro-Hungarian empire.
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6348/cappellodeglialpinidellbx7.jpg is close to the device on the head gear pictured above, but the wings appear too thick and not up-swept enough to my eye.
And the only italian guy I used to know (a source for WWI grenades) email bounced.
Boq - I think you have your answer!
"Designed in 1901 by engineer Joseph Perrino artillery, was the first automatic weapon Italian design (weighing 27 kg). In 1910, as amended and referred to as "lightweight" (17 kg), after some good tests, was adopted by the Savoy with the Maxim model used since the same size. In this way it was intended to reward a national patent and the Italian production. It was powered by shippers metal plate 25 shots each (a particular stock hopper could hold five shippers ready for the shot, add down to achieve a continuous fire. The circulation of the cooling was ensured by pumping from long-recoil movement of the barrel within the sleeve. The theoretical rate of fire was 450 strokes per minute. It was distributed in very limited quantities, while the quality far superior to any other machine gun adopted."
It looks like it could be the same gun with a shorter barrel to make it more portable. And of course HUGE sights...
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