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  <title>Comments for A comment from Down Under on President Obama&apos;s speech at Georgetown</title>
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    <published>2009-04-15T12:13:40Z</published>
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    <title>A comment from Down Under on President Obama&apos;s speech at Georgetown</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[Yesterday I threw up selected (selected by the White House Press Office) excerpts from the speech that&nbsp;POTUS and TOTUS delivered yesterday at Georgetown University.&nbsp; I put it up without embedded editorializing or Bowlderization, to let you form your own judgements, untainted by mine.Argent, one of our regulars from Down Under, cut loose on it in the comments, which, because it's an interesting view and I'm late and working off a slow connection, am putting up where it will get more exposure.&nbsp; Argent's comments in italics.Take it away, Argent!I was feeling bored...As Prepared for DeliveryYes but who prepared it?Blah blah blah...]]></summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[Yesterday I threw up selected (selected by the White House Press Office) excerpts from the speech that&nbsp;POTUS and TOTUS delivered yesterday at Georgetown University.&nbsp; I put it up without embedded editorializing or Bowlderization, to let you form your own judgements, untainted by mine.<br /><br />Argent, one of our regulars from Down Under, cut loose on it in the comments, which, because it's an interesting view and I'm late and working off a slow connection, am putting up where it will get more exposure.&nbsp; Argent's comments in italics.<br /><br />Take it away, Argent!<br /><blockquote><div>I was feeling bored...<br /><br />As Prepared for Delivery<br /><em>Yes but who prepared it?</em><br /><br />Blah blah blah and be honest about the pitfalls that may lie ahead.<br /><em>I hate politicians using the word 'honest'</em><br />blah blah where prosperity is fueled not by excessive debt, reckless speculation, and fleeing profit,<br /><em>It was fueled by that was it? How remarkable, maybe we should do it<br />more.</em><br /><br />Blah blah get credit flowing again to families and businesses, and help them ride out the storm.<br /><em>Business yes. But it is disturbing that either US families need credit<br />or he thinks US families need credit.</em><br />And taken together, these actions are starting to generate signs of economic progress.<br /><em>Recovery not progress. Progress will take longer.</em><br />which is like putting a $2,000 tax cut in your in pocket.<br /><em>Pig's arse.</em><br />Because of our recovery plan.....Our housing plan ......Our program blah blah<br /><em>Boring chest beating; And naturally Obama forgets to mention the<br />real heroes of the economy which are businesses and individuals.</em><br /><br />can continue to expect an unrelenting, unyielding, day-by-day effort from this administration to fight for economic recovery on all fronts.<br /><em>Dearie me, I seem to have lost my lunch</em><br /><br />It is simply not sustainable to have a 21st century financial system that is governed by 20th century rules and regulations that allowed the recklessness of a few to threaten the entire economy. It is not sustainable to have an economy where in one year, 40% of our corporate profits came from a financial sector that was based too much on<br />inflated home prices, maxed out credit cards, overleveraged banks and overvalued assets; or an economy where the incomes of the top 1% have skyrocketed while the typical working household has seen their income decline by nearly $2,000.<br /><em>And what El Presidente, did you do about it as Senator? And what did<br />you do about your political party's idea of encouraging it? And how<br />much responsibility have you collectively and individually taken?</em><br /><br />There is a parable at the end of the Sermon on the Mount<br /><em>bone tossed to Christians</em><br /><br />five pillars<br /><em>bone tossed to Muslims, and what are the 5 pillars you refer to?<br /></em><br />that will grow our economy and make this new century another American century: new rules for Wall Street that will reward drive and innovation; new investments in education that will make our workforce more skilled and competitive; new investments in renewable energy and technology that will create new jobs and industries; new investments in health care that will cut costs for families and businesses; and new<br />savings in our federal budget that will bring down the debt for future generations. That is the new foundation we must build. That is our future.<br /><em>This is the most important thing he said. I am not as negative as you guys will be on this and I need not judge it either. The last bit though well he will have to show results much sooner. If he, a leftie, cuts government while the right grew it, truly the world is upside down. Let's say I am sceptical of this last one happening.</em><br /><br />I've talked a lot about the fundamental weakness in our economy that led us to this day of reckoning. But we also arrived here because of a fundamental weakness in our political system.<br /><em>Indeed, and thanks for the example.</em><br /><br />For too long, too many in Washington put off hard decisions <br /><em>Of which you were part of Senator.</em><br />There's been a tendency to score political points instead of ...<br /><em>Which you have been doing in buckets.</em><br />There is also an impatience that characterizes this town<br /><em>This has to be an Americanism I don't understand.</em><br /><br />This can't be one of those times. The challenges are too great. The stakes are too high. I know how difficult it is for Members of Congress in both parties to grapple with some of the big decisions we face right now. It's more than most congresses and most presidents have to deal with in a lifetime.<br /><em>Oh get over it. There have been many, many tough times in the past and they will keep on coming. You also glossed over taking responsibility. Mainly for the stupid housing/banking plan and your opponents also haven't taken responsibility. Hope, but no change.</em><br /><br />But we have been called to govern in extraordinary times. And that requires an extraordinary sense of responsibility;<br /><em>whelp, the Americans picked you. Can't say more or less than that now can I?</em><br /><br />Blah summary blah.. a vision of an America's future that is far different than our troubled economic past.<br /><em>Balderdash. The US has long had one of the best economies in the world.</em><br /><br />We will .. we use .. if we come together a..if we persist and persevere <br /><em>Finally a hint he gets it right at the end. &quot;We&quot; ie all of<br />you in America are the key. He should have used this as an opening.</em><br />&nbsp;</div></blockquote>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2009-04-16</title>
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        <![CDATA[Grimmy-<br />
Argent said that what our Constitution is missing is &quot;A sense of responsibility to it and to each other.&quot;... which is pretty much what you're saying too- and what I agreed to.<br />
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Somewhere along the path, we've lost our way.&nbsp; This is not the country our founding fathers had in mind, nor is it what I had in mind.&nbsp; The problem is half of Americans seem to like this new path.&nbsp; I see us headed toward another civil war if this continues.<br />
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The Left (and the Dept of Homeland Security) already has us nailed to the cross as right-wing extremists.&nbsp; We have a President who's &quot;neener-neener, I won.. get over it&quot; attitude shows just how childish, immature, and unprepared he is to lead our country.&nbsp; We have a vilified military, made out to be ruthless killers by senators praised for their patriotism and untouchable by those they defame in the name of &quot;I was just doing my duty to my country when I called you a murderer on national tv&quot;.&nbsp; We have a government who is stealing our children's future ability to support themselves.&nbsp; We have a society bent on turning the greatest country in the world into old-world China, USSR, Germany, and Viet Nam- at the same time that these same countries are currently embracing capitalism because they've seen how well it worked for us in the past.<br />
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We're screwed if we continue the path we're on, but when you live in a democracy in which half of the citizen agree with this wayward path... it will only lead to escalated fighting.&nbsp; This will come to a violent head in the not so distant future.&nbsp; Mark my words:&nbsp; we will be forced to chose to be a part of the United Socialist States of America, or the United Capitalist States of America.<br />
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As for me and mine, the decision&nbsp; has already been made- it's just a matter of whether or not we have to move to be in the country we chose to align ourselves with.<br />
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Some will say I'm an idiot, and that it won't come to that.. and I hope like hell they're right... but I don't think they are.]]>
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    <published>2009-04-16T13:39:08Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Grimmy on 2009-04-16</title>
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        <![CDATA[Argent:<br />
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Nicely done. But, I do disagree with your suggestion that our Constitution needs more. It's not the Constitution that is lacking. It is, and always has been, those of us sworn to protect and defend it, against ALL enemy, foreign or domestic, that have been and continue to be lacking.]]>
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    <published>2009-04-16T11:26:00Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2009-04-15</title>
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        <![CDATA[You're absolutely right, Argent.&nbsp; That's why so many of us are against the socialist agenda of our current President.]]>
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    <published>2009-04-16T01:19:54Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Argent on 2009-04-15</title>
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        <name>Argent</name>
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        <![CDATA[Oh I feel embarassed.&nbsp; You guys have a very good constitution.&nbsp; I guess the trouble is it needs more.&nbsp; A sense of responsibility to it and to each other.&nbsp; Without things like that it's just so much words.&nbsp; Your founders knew it too and challenged you all to keep what they helped create.<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-04-16T00:38:45Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2009-04-15</title>
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        <![CDATA[I guess that makes me a rubes too, Brad.<br />
And a Right-Wing Extremist, if you believe the new Homeland Security brief: <a href="http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/2009/04/homeland-security-issues-warning-on-rightwing-extremist-groups.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/2009/04/homeland-security-issues-warning-on-rightwing-extremist-groups.html</a>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-15T16:56:15Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from XBradTC on 2009-04-15</title>
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        <![CDATA[We used to have a sustainable foundation. It was the core philosophy of the entire government and indeed, the entire nation. <br />
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Us rubes called it the Constitution. <br />]]>
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    <published>2009-04-15T16:45:40Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2009-04-15</title>
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        <![CDATA[Last night, at dinner, we had the news on.&nbsp; When Obama said &quot;new sustainable foundation&quot;... my 11 year- old turned to me and said &quot;Huh.&nbsp; Do you think he even knows what a 'sustainable foundation' actually IS?&nbsp; Or did he just READ that, and say it.&quot;<br />
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LMFAO.<br />
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What a good boy.<br />
(of course that was before he pummelled the 8-year-old son this morning, just before leaving for school... but that's a whole 'nother story)<br />
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How sad is it that Argent, from Australia, can tear apart- no, DESTROY.. the POTUS's speech and get down to what he was really saying- and not saying, yet people within our own country can't seem to do the same?&nbsp; Of course, that, in a nutshell, is why The One is POTUS instead of McCain.&nbsp; All the world loves a good storyteller- and unfortunately, that's what we got when he was elected President.&nbsp; All fluff, no substance.&nbsp; And the substances he's thrown at us since being sworn in smells a lot like my puppy's cage when I get home from work at night.<br />
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    <published>2009-04-15T14:59:46Z</published>
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