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        <description>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</description>
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            <title>What the Whatziss Is. And Three Drumrolls!</title>
            <description>It took a bit longer than I expected, but Slinky hit it (albeit obliquely) with his reference to the Radar Altimeter. The second drumroll is for LaMigra&apos;s pic of the Mi-17I (alphabetic disparity trivia lesson: the Iraqis sometimes call it the Mi-171 because the English capital I looks so much like the way we write 1 -- the Euro version is closer to the original Arabic numeral). The next drumroll is for JoA&apos;s Virtual Cockpit, and the final drumroll is for jon spencer&apos;s link dashing yet another cherished aviation myth right into the ground.Ummmmm -- four. *Four* drumrolls.Here&apos;s what the...</description>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:08:02 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-03-07</title>
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                <![CDATA[The Usuals will get it.<br />
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'Tain't like it's never appeared here in that context!<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:09:22 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-03-07</title>
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                <![CDATA[Snerk.&nbsp; That response caused some head scratchin' I'm thinking.]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:19:33 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-03-07</title>
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                <![CDATA[Did right well with 'em at Fair Oaks, although I'd much rather have had a Loach...<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:06:36 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Josh on 2009-03-07</title>
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                <![CDATA[What ever would possess somebody to &quot;fly&quot; a hot air balloon is entirely beyond me...<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:32:00 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-03-07</title>
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                <![CDATA[<em>...dumping air in an attempt to land could be considered a dive being done on purpose... </em><br />
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In that situation, the &quot;v&quot; is superfluous... <br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:30:11 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-03-07</title>
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                <![CDATA[If we define &quot;falling&quot; as diving, and accept Argent's &quot;not always a feature&quot; caveat, yeah, balloons.<br />
<br />
And, what the heck, when you're out of propane, only at 100 feet, and the 440 powerlines are looming, then dumping air in an attempt to land could be considered a dive being done on purpose...]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:17:45 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Argent on 2009-03-07</title>
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                <![CDATA[pin.<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 04:09:04 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-03-07</title>
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                <![CDATA[Balloon?<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 04:08:09 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Argent on 2009-03-07</title>
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                <![CDATA[Every airbourne object can dive.&nbsp; It's not always a feature though.<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:08:50 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-03-07</title>
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                <![CDATA[While you're at it, pop into the Club and tell that cute little female F-16 pilot I'll meet her at our usual time.<br />
<br />
*strangled mirth*<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:05:29 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Josh on 2009-03-06</title>
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                <![CDATA[You know what gets there quicker than rockets from a helo?<br />
<br />
Rockets from an airplane that showed up twice as fast.<br />
<br />
No chin bubbles required.<br />
<br />
But, sadly, we have to turn around to get back home.&nbsp; So I guess you have us there...<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:48:26 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-03-06</title>
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                <![CDATA[Helicopters dive, too, and rockets get there quicker.<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:58:15 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Josh on 2009-03-06</title>
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                <![CDATA[Fixed wings allow dive bombing, though...<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:26:52 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Dusty on 2009-03-06</title>
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                <![CDATA[Wouldn't a CADC give you the relative wind data? In any case, depending on range it's only good for your altitude...better than nothing but not perfect. But I think we're basically talking the same thing.<br />
<br />
The reason we don't need chin bubbles is that the speeds we're dropping/firing require a mil solution that is well within the normal or expanded field of view of the HUD. The slower you're going, the further down from your longitudinal boresight you have to set your aiming reference, i.e., drop a lot later, putting the target more under your a$$ than under your nose.&nbsp;<br />
<br />
But you knew that...]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:11:57 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-03-06</title>
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                <![CDATA[They could also rig an ADS sending relative wind info to the IFCU to transfer the data to the RMS and MCC to provide a rocket solution in the HUD. Hips *did* do some bomb-dropping in the I-v-I dustup, but they used the same method I used to drop sensors in the Delta -- line up on the target and when the forward portion is level with the top of the antitorque pedals, then bombs away.<br />
<br />
I dropped a sensor from 1,500 feet into the mouth of a cave four feet wide using that method. <br />
<br />
Fixed wing types need all those expensive 'lectronic computational gizmos 'cuz they don't have chin bubbles to look through...]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:53:05 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Dusty on 2009-03-06</title>
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                <![CDATA[So, with a little tweaking, say a small computer that can crank the trig numbers by rolling in the CADC data and weapon ballistics tables with the AGL, and a HUD, you have yourself a CCIP aiming reference for both free-fall and forward-firing ordnance. <br />
<br />
Granted helos don't do a lot of bomb dropping as it would tend to blow themselves up, it might be handy for rockets and guns. <br />
<br />
Essentially you have a fighter's gun/bomb sight w/o the forward-looking ranging radar necessary for true CCIP.<br />
<br />
Just a thought.]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:37:35 -0600</pubDate>
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