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  <title>Comments for Gotta love the captioners.</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2009-03-06T14:01:15Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T16:20:09Z</updated>
    <title>Gotta love the captioners.</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[Sometimes, apparently, these pictures are captioned by the photographer, sometimes they get help from other people.&nbsp;&nbsp;I use the word &quot;help&quot; advisedly.

I even had a rather acrimonious exchange of email with a Sergeant First Class Combat Camera guy who, when I got snarky about the numerous errors in a caption (which *I*&nbsp;got snarked for by the assembled horde) basically said, &quot;Hey, I'm out here in the sh*t, you're just a fat f**king civilian with nothing better to do than snipe people who do stuff you won't or can't, how dare you criticize me.&quot;

Heh.&nbsp; I sent him a .pdf of my VA rating letter.&nbsp; But, 'tudes aside, I love the Combat Camera guys, bad captions or no.&nbsp; They're the ones who are documenting this war, since a lot of the MSM photographers, for many good reasons and some bad, are not.&nbsp;&nbsp; This is an example of one pic that came in the mail yesterday...]]></summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[Sometimes, apparently, these pictures are captioned by the photographer, sometimes they get help from other people.&nbsp;&nbsp;I use the word &quot;help&quot; advisedly.<br /><br />I even had a rather acrimonious exchange of email with a Sergeant First Class Combat Camera guy who, when I got snarky about the numerous errors in a caption (which *I*&nbsp;got snarked for by the assembled horde) basically said, &quot;Hey, I'm out here in the sh*t, you're just a fat f**king civilian with nothing better to do than snipe people who do stuff you won't or can't, how dare you criticize me.&quot;<br /><br />Heh.&nbsp; I sent him a .pdf of my VA rating letter.&nbsp; But, 'tudes aside, I love the Combat Camera guys, bad captions or no.&nbsp; They're the ones who are documenting this war, since a lot of the MSM photographers, for many good reasons and some bad, are not.&nbsp;&nbsp; This is an example of one pic that came in the mail yesterday...<br /><br /><img alt="03/03/2009 - U.S. Marine Corps Pfc. Jessica Gwillim, assigned to the 9th Provisional Security Forces, repaints a wheel on an M2A3 Bradley Fighting Vehicle System on Camp Lemonier, Djibouti, March 3, 2009. Camp Lemonier is the hub of Combined Joint Task Force&ndash;Horn of Africa. (DoD photo by Tech. Sgt. Joe Zuccaro, U.S. Air Force/Released)   Except this isn't a Bradley, it's a US M3 105mm howitzer used by the Cannon Companies of WWII infantry regiments." src="http://www.fototime.com/E90AC7EDC6B7F7A/orig.jpg" /><br /><blockquote><div>03/03/2009 - U.S. Marine Corps Pfc. Jessica Gwillim, assigned to the 9th Provisional Security Forces, repaints a wheel on an M2A3 Bradley Fighting Vehicle System on Camp Lemonier, Djibouti, March 3, 2009. Camp Lemonier is the hub of Combined Joint Task Force&ndash;Horn of Africa. (DoD photo by Tech. Sgt. Joe Zuccaro, U.S. Air Force/Released)</div></blockquote>&nbsp;<br />Well, from the uniform, she *is* a Marine.&nbsp; I'll take their word on it that it's Camp Lemonier, Djibouti.<br /><br />But&nbsp;this isn't a M2A3 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle (which would be odd to have a Marine painting, frankly, since they don't use any of 'em), it's a <a href="http://www.fototime.com/D7BA71DE572C414/orig.jpg">US M3 105mm howitzer</a> used by the Cannon Companies of WWII infantry regiments.<br /><br />But let's test ourselves - what's the gun in the background?]]>
      
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85488</id>
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    <title>Comment from Josh on 2009-03-10</title>
    <author>
        <name>Josh</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[<em>But, don't support banning 'em, except in a private property sense.  I.e., you ain't smoking in my house or vehicle.  And I'd rather you didn't dip or chew inside, either.</em><br />
<br />
I have some libertarian leanings, particularly in the sense that I am loathe to ban, well, practically anything.<br />
<br />
Having grown up seeing the aftereffects of both smoked AND smokeless tobacco in my father's patients, though, I really wish there were some way to convince people to just give it up, PARTICULARLY military personnel...I mean they've got enough dangers already without dying or being maimed by head, neck, and lung cancer.<br />
<br />
My crazy libertarian-influenced idea is that maybe possessing and smoking/chewing tobacco should be perfectly legal (because you have the right to harm yourself if that's what you really want), but selling tobacco commercially should be banned for the same reason (consumer protection) that we ban all other completely unsafe products.&nbsp; If you want to grow and roll your own tobacco, that's your problem.&nbsp; But you can't sell liquor cut with methanol, so why can you sell tobacco?<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-03-10T14:33:57Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-10T14:33:57Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85480</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-03-10</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[Leslie - grew up in a family of four, as the only one who didn't (and doesn't) smoke.&nbsp; Didn't run into dip and chew until I went through my basic training.<br />
<br />
Find them all to be... icky.<br />
<br />
But, don't support banning 'em, except in a private property sense.&nbsp; I.e., you ain't smoking in my house or vehicle.&nbsp; And I'd rather you didn't dip or chew inside, either.<br />
<br />
An office full of dipper's n' spitters is just nasty in a different, more avoidable sense than an office of smokers.]]>
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    <published>2009-03-10T12:01:28Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-10T12:01:28Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85476</id>
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    <title>Comment from Leslie on 2009-03-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>Leslie</name>
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        <![CDATA[Had a roommate that chewed, much preferred it to smoking. She is actually the only gal I ever met that did chew. Just keep the spit can off the table. <br />]]>
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    <published>2009-03-10T03:28:04Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-10T03:28:04Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85413</id>
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    <title>Comment from Blake Kirk on 2009-03-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>Blake Kirk</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[It's a French 75,&nbsp;&nbsp; Given the evidence in this picture I'm e-mailing John, I'd have to say it was probably a product of a pre ww2 upgrade program.<br />
<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-03-09T14:12:28Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-09T14:12:28Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85340</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-03-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
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        <![CDATA[Joint Service? Thot she was dipping snuff...<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-03-07T19:01:47Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-07T19:01:47Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85328</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-03-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Excellent point, Jon!
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    <published>2009-03-07T13:52:17Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-07T13:52:17Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85325</id>
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    <title>Comment from jon spencer on 2009-03-07</title>
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        <![CDATA[&nbsp;Got to look on the bright side.<br />
Now she is qualified to do maintenance on Bradley's.<br />
Also since they are Army only, some Joint Service time too.]]>
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    <published>2009-03-07T13:32:03Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-07T13:32:03Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85316</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-03-07</title>
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        <![CDATA[Wait -- check the rolling stock: it's a CH-34.<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-03-07T06:55:14Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-07T06:55:14Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85297</id>
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    <title>Comment from Josh on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Josh</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[Gotta agree with John's assessment.<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-03-07T01:43:16Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-07T01:43:16Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85296</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[No way, Cannonball.&nbsp; Take a good look at that breechblock.]]>
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    <published>2009-03-07T01:39:21Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85293</id>
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    <title>Comment from cannonball on 2009-03-06</title>
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        <![CDATA[Schneider 155.<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-03-07T01:31:18Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-07T01:31:18Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85291</id>
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    <title>Comment from Grimmy on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Grimmy</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[Did some googling and other &quot;Camp Lemonier&quot; pics came up with gravel paved areas, so maybe it is Djibouti. That camp has been a French base since forever, and the French are a bit touchy about who gets to set up cultural reminders in whatever area they happen to be in, so, my guess is the gun in the background is something French. Probably the WW1 75mm mentioned earlier.<br />
<br />
But, for all I&nbsp;know the pic is actually taken outside one of the Btn HQs in the 11 Mar area of Camp Pendleton. Never was a gun bunnie so never wandered around that particular part of the base.<br />
<br />
As to tobacco, Day's Work plug is the way to go. Small, denser packaging so less hassle to carry enough to last. It's not prone to being ruined if it gets a bit damp like ciggies. Don't light you up at night like cigs either.&nbsp; Never was a fan of loose leaf chaw. The chaw was alright, but the packaging as loose leaf was a lot of wasted space. Besides, the molasses used as a binder in the plug was a nice lil bit of energy boost on a long hump.]]>
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    <published>2009-03-07T01:04:22Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-07T01:04:22Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85289</id>
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    <title>Comment from Rod Thorsen on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Rod Thorsen</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[Uugh, that photo's fisheyed enough I'm getting a migrine just looking at it.<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-03-06T23:43:28Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T23:43:28Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85287</id>
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    <title>Comment from Murray on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Murray</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[Its an M113A1 with the T50 turret and .50 .30 mgs mounted in it and from the markings I can indentify it as being QA sqn.<br />
<br />
Do I get the photographers job now?<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-03-06T23:20:11Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T23:20:11Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85286</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[Ick.&nbsp; Just, ick.]]>
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    <published>2009-03-06T23:05:19Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T23:05:19Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from RetRsvMike on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>RetRsvMike</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[tried running a TOC once on multi-chew basis, but chaos always ensued.&nbsp; PX&nbsp;would never have just the exact right flavor for any one individual.<br />
<br />
so we settled it the democratic way.&nbsp; Sqdn XO mandated single flavor TOC.&nbsp; that way, someone always had a pack to bum.&nbsp; ammo cans full of the stuff.&nbsp; always straw down on the floor, and a designated spit corner (funny how that always ended up by the intel M577)...<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-03-06T22:33:37Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T22:33:37Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Kevin on 2009-03-06</title>
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        <name>Kevin</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[<br />
&quot;Red Man Golden, all the way, all the day&quot;<br />
<br />
Been there, done that, found much better.&nbsp; <strong>Stokers</strong>.&nbsp; Far, far better and much less expensive in the long run, it's just not as easily found.&nbsp;<br />
<br />
But then, I'm an eevuul tobacconist and have access to such delicacies.<br />
<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-03-06T21:16:43Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[Mikey, my imprecision due to inexperience is noted, with some relief, I might add!<br />
<br />
Nasty habit.<br />
<br />
8^&nbsp;D]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T21:03:41Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T21:03:41Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85282</id>
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    <title>Comment from RetRsvMike on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>RetRsvMike</name>
        
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[John/AFSister: precision in terminology please.&nbsp; the young lass obviously has a DIP in her lower lip.&nbsp; a wad of CHEW would more plausibly be tucked up top on the cheek side.<br />
<br />
Kevin: spittin is for amateurs (unless we're talking some good barn-dried twist, in which case ya need to work up a good first spit just to get the thing jump started).<br />
<br />
Red Man Golden, all the way, all the day.<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T21:01:01Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T21:01:01Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85278</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[Snerk!&nbsp; That's as plausible an explanation as any!]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T20:45:53Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T20:45:53Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85277</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.thedonovan.com">
        <![CDATA[<em>DVIDS calls it a M2A3 -- </em>Chuck<em><br />
<br />
And the DVIDs caption is still wrong.  </em>-- JoA<br />
<br />
Merely a misinterpretation. The captioneer obviously sought out the resident artillerist and asked him what the gun was. He glanced at the pic and said, &quot;M2. Ehhhh, 3.&quot;<br />
<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T20:43:40Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T20:43:40Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85271</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.thedonovan.com">
        <![CDATA[Heh.&nbsp; Chuck - I just checked DVIDs.&nbsp; Your caption is still there.&nbsp; The caption I used came with the email from them yesterday.<br />
<br />
And the DVIDs caption is still wrong.&nbsp; The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M101_howitzer" rel="nofollow">M2-series guns are the classic 105mm howitzers</a> that served from WWII through at least the 80s (in Alaska, where they worked better than the newer 105s), and <a href="http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/weapons/ordnance/c1howitzer.htm" rel="nofollow">the Canadians</a> and other forces still use them.<br />
<br />
That's an M3, sho' nuff!]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T19:47:40Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T19:47:40Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85270</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.thedonovan.com">
        <![CDATA[My working hypothesis on the gun is that it is a WWII-era (or later) version of the French 75mm cannon of WWI, that hypothesis being based on the breech and trail.&nbsp; The wheels I don't recognize, but could well have been some arms dealers amalgam to make a 'high speed&quot; towing-capable gun for the African trade.&nbsp;&nbsp; Adding to that is the fact it's in Djibouti, which was a french colony doesn't hurt, either.]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T19:40:59Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T19:40:59Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85268</id>
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    <title>Comment from LaMigra on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>LaMigra</name>
        
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[I note that the photog is a USAF Tech Sgt...'nuff sed&nbsp;about the Bradley ID.&nbsp;]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T19:34:34Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T19:34:34Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85267</id>
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    <title>Comment from Chuck Simmins on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Chuck Simmins</name>
        <uri>http://northshorejournal.org</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://northshorejournal.org">
        <![CDATA[The pic I got at DVIDS calls it a M2A3 Howitzer [Tues March 3]. <a href="http://northshorejournal.org/our-best-pvt-1st-class-jessica-gwillim" rel="nofollow">http://northshorejournal.org/our-best-pvt-1st-class-jessica-gwillim</a><br />
<br />
Someone changed the caption at some point in time.<br />
<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T19:33:33Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T19:33:33Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85262</id>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>AFSister</name>
        
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[hahaha... Bill Wins!!<br />
&quot;A Stryker&quot;<br />
<br />
LMFAO<br />
<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T18:57:23Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T18:57:23Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85261</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[SoberSubmariner - he didn't know I am a retarded officer at the time, not, I think, that it would have made a difference to him, angry as he was.<br />
<br />
That was some years ago, when I learned the photogs google themselves (waves at SSG Mancini and SSG Barnhart).]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T18:37:58Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T18:37:58Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85260</id>
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    <title>Comment from Josh on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Josh</name>
        
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[Are they just plain making it up at random?&nbsp;  I mean you can't look at that picture, having ever actually seen a Bradley, and write that caption...<br />
<br />
Those spoked wheels look OLD, I'm with John(NTA) on this one.<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T18:22:07Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T18:22:07Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85259</id>
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    <title>Comment from theredsuit on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>theredsuit</name>
        
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[Isn't that and M1A2 in the background?&nbsp;]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T18:02:12Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T18:02:12Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85256</id>
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    <title>Comment from sobersubmrnr on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>sobersubmrnr</name>
        
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        An E-7 said that to you? You&apos;re an officer, retired or not.
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T17:39:35Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T17:39:35Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85254</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<em>...what's the gun in the background? </em><br />
<br />
*putting on DoD captioneer hat*<br />
<br />
A Stryker.<br />
<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T17:35:06Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T17:35:06Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85253</id>
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    <title>Comment from Kevin on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Kevin</name>
        
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<br />
Be careful what you wish for...<br />
<br />
As a young recruit in boot camp, our platoon was readying for our force march up Mt. MoFo at Camp Pendleton when the Senior DI strutted up. <br />
<br />
He asked my squad leader if he chewed, and Pvt Butler responded; &quot;Suh, noah suh! Thayut stuffs naastay!&quot;  (Butler was deep Southern).<br />
<br />
I perked up at this exchange and secretly hoped the Senior would ask me if I wanted any chew.<br />
<br />
The Senior then marched over to me and asked; &quot;Ah, Goodwin, do you chew?&quot; <br />
<br />
I enthusiastically replied; &quot;Sir, yes sir!&quot;<br />
<br />
&quot;Open up!&quot; He ordered, and pulled out a small pinch of leaf chew.<br />
<br />
I, being a good Marine, obeyed orders, opened wide and the Senior stuffed in the tiny wad.<br />
<br />
I was delighted, until....<br />
<br />
The Senior roared, &quot;I'd didn't tell you to close your mouth did I recruit?!&quot;<br />
<br />
He then proceeded to stuff the <strong>whole damned bag of chew into my mouth</strong>.  I musta looked like a chipmunk after raiding a nut farm.<br />
<br />
On the bright side, during that forced march, my mouth never once dried out.<br />
<br />
On the dark side, I got hollered at (repeatedly, to the great and sadistic delight of my DIs ) for not requesting permission to spit....<br />
<br />
Be careful of what you wish for....<br />
<br />
And, yes, I&nbsp;could relate stories of BAMs who were tattooed, chewed tobacco and crushed beer cans on their heads in the E-Club...&nbsp; but that's for another day.<br />
<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T17:24:49Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T17:24:49Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85252</id>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>AFSister</name>
        
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[You could be right about the chew, John.&nbsp; Could be she's just concentrating REALLY hard though.]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T17:09:12Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T17:09:12Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85249</id>
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    <title>Comment from John (not the armorer) on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>John (not the armorer)</name>
        
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[Big beastie in the back appears to be WW1 era, sorta Krautish looking, about 15cm size.&nbsp; Second guess would be some sort of Russkie arty.<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T16:45:43Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T16:45:43Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85248</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[And I swear, that Marine looks like she's got a wad of chew in that lower lip.<br />
<br />
But Marine wimmin are tough like that.

Of course, I remember when I first ran into womyn who exercise their right to chew... she was an Oklahoma Cowgurl in Lawton, who could spit with the best of 'em.

Heh.  2LT McConchie tried to get me to chew.  

I did it exactly once.  Clearly, I didn't get the attraction.]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T16:36:03Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T16:36:03Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10480-comment:85245</id>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2009-03-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>AFSister</name>
        
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[a BRADLEY????<br />
<br />
Who do they think they're kidding with THAT&nbsp;caption?&nbsp; Holy cow.&nbsp; I'm not very good at identifying military vehicles or weapons, but even I know there's no way that could be a Bradley!&nbsp; sheesh.]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-06T16:21:24Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-06T16:21:24Z</updated>
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