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  <title>Comments for The Medal of Honor, non-posthumous edition.</title>
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    <published>2009-02-09T13:48:55Z</published>
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    <title>The Medal of Honor, non-posthumous edition.</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[As I mentioned in yesterday's post, I&nbsp;went to a militaria show at Fort Leavenworth this weekend and had a great time, and accomplished some bloggish stuff, too.

Living here in Leavenworth, we have access to some truly significant militaria.&nbsp; Real living history militaria.&nbsp; We have LTC(R) Chuck Hagemeister and COL(R) Roger Donlon.&nbsp; Colonel Donlon recieved the first Medal of Honor for action in Vietnam.&nbsp; He was at the show this weekend, selling his book, but mostly just being there and talking to people and letting the public meet a real public treasure.

And see a Medal of Honor hanging around a Holder's neck, vice sitting in a display case.&nbsp; Like this:]]></summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[As I mentioned in yesterday's post, I&nbsp;went to a militaria show at Fort Leavenworth this weekend and had a great time, and accomplished some bloggish stuff, too.<br /><br />Living here in Leavenworth, we have access to some truly significant militaria.&nbsp; Real living history militaria.&nbsp; We have <a href="http://history.amedd.army.mil/moh/hagemeisterc.htm">LTC(R) Chuck Hagemeister </a>and <a href="http://www.cmohs.org/medal/history_links/r_donlon.htm">COL(R) Roger Donlon</a>.&nbsp; Colonel Donlon recieved the first Medal of Honor for action in Vietnam.&nbsp; He was at the show this weekend, selling his book, but mostly just being there and talking to people and letting the public meet a real public treasure.<br /><br />And see a Medal of Honor hanging around a Holder's neck, vice sitting in a display case.&nbsp; Like this:<br /><br /><img alt="Medal of Honor holder Colonel (ret'd) Roger Donlon and some nameless hoser at the Fort Leavenworth Militaria show, February 2009." src="http://www.fototime.com/8D2363E59C82A7C/orig.jpg" /><br /><br />I took the opportunity to chat with Colonel Donlon about <a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/02/the_medal_of_po.html">the fact that there have been no Medals awarded to a living recipient</a> since Vietnam.&nbsp; 7 Medals have been awarded for post-Vietnam actions.&nbsp; Just to recap those names, because if you read this space, you should probably know them -&nbsp; Master Sergeant Gary Gordon, Sergeant First Class Randall Shugart,&nbsp; Sergeant First Class Paul Smith, Corporal Jason Dunham, Lieutenant Michael Murphy, Master At Arms 2nd Class &nbsp;Michael Monsoor, and Private First Class Ross McGinnis.<br /><br />After caveating that he has no more access to or influence upon the awards process than you or I do - he basically echoed my sentiment.&nbsp; He, too, reads every Distinguished Service Cross/ Navy Cross/ Air Force Cross citation, and he often asks himself, &quot;Why&nbsp;wasn't this&nbsp;a&nbsp;Medal of Honor?&quot;<br /><br />And, he said, many of the other Holders he communicates with on a regular basis ask the same question - or worse, &quot;What am I doing with a Medal of Honor when this kid got a DSC?&quot;<br /><br />So, again I pose the question to the DoD Leadership... &quot;WTF, over?&quot;<br /><br /><br />On an unrelated topic - Colonel Donlon still has copies of his book available - if anybody would like to get an autographed copy, I'd be happy to broker that with Colonel Donlon.]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from htom on 2009-02-10</title>
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        <![CDATA[For years I thought it required an affirmative vote of Congress. Very poorly phrased.<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-02-11T00:27:18Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Grumpy on 2009-02-10</title>
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        <![CDATA[Hi John, yeah, it's that miserable old grouch. &nbsp;But as I read your post and the associated comments, as I did, I felt I was missing a very important message. I don't expect an answer. But deep in the bowels of your mind, you have this workshop with all kinds of workbenches. You have this one clean workbench, drop off the question there. It is OK, to let the question just rest. Your mind is the best crucible to start some of the processing. &nbsp;This will be one of those things which will happen over time and a cup of coffee.<br />
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Let yourself open the question to the many resources of our Nation's Military. Question, What is the impact of this policy for our LIVING Military Personnel stationed in theatre of operations?<br />
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As I understand you, you have the historical, traditional and doctrinal base to answer this impact question. Please remember, I don't expect an answer.<br />
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Thank you,<br />
V/R Grumpy]]>
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    <published>2009-02-10T19:39:47Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Josh on 2009-02-10</title>
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        <![CDATA[So it came from misreading the lead in to the citations?<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-02-10T14:47:17Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2009-02-10</title>
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        <![CDATA[Yeah, I got it too, but then again, we've talked about this on many occassions, so I already knew the point.&nbsp; It still makes me sad to think about how the previous MoH recipients feel when then read the current DSC citations.&nbsp;]]>
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    <published>2009-02-10T14:33:29Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from RetRsvMike on 2009-02-10</title>
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        <![CDATA[John: the writing of the post was fine.&nbsp; it was clear to regular readers.&nbsp; in writing it, you may have naturally presumed a bit that any individual current reader may have been following the meme all along from your earlier posts on the topic, and therefore wasn't the model of explicit-itude (new word?) that some would require.<br />
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from where i sit, i was following your line of thought exactly.<br />
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(not to try to re-open an earlier thread, but when the next I/R related post goes up, i will make my earlier comments even more explicit so as to eliminate some apparent misunderstanding of my thoughts on the topic. (because forcing someone to capture their thoughts on paper while still in the planning stages is ever so much important)).<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-02-10T13:54:34Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Pogue on 2009-02-10</title>
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        <![CDATA[John, I understood what you were trying to say from the start.&nbsp; Of course, considering my track record on coherent comments that may not be all that reassuring...<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-02-10T13:54:15Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-02-10</title>
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        <![CDATA[Gad.&nbsp; Once upon a time, I thought I could write.&nbsp; But when multiple people don't grasp the point clearly, that's the fault of the writer, not the reader.<br />
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Simply put.&nbsp; There have been no *living* recipients of the Medal of Honor for OIF/OEF.&nbsp; Thus far, that is the only war for which that is true.<br />
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All Medals awarded to living recipients in the last 10 years have gone to Vietnam and WWII veterans.&nbsp; The issue isn't whether or not the Medal has been given to living persons in the last decade.&nbsp; It has.<br />
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But no awards have been made to a living recipient from the campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan, make the GWOT the first (thus far) totally posthumous war, from a Medal of Honor perspective.&nbsp; Korea comes in second, with 70% of the Medals awarded for Korea being posthumous awards.<br />
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But, all that said, Grumpy, you did get the big point - it shouldn't be the Medal of Posthumous Honor.&nbsp; <br />
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Josh - the lede of the citation answers your question.&nbsp; Here is Senator Inouye's citation:<br />
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The President of the United States of America, authorized by Act of Congress, March 3, 1863, has awarded in the name of The Congress the Medal of Honor to
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SECOND LIEUTENANT DANIEL K. INOUYE<br />
UNITED STATES ARMY<br />
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for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty:<br />
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Second Lieutenant Daniel K. Inouye distinguished himself by extraordinary heroism in action on 21 April 1945, in the vicinity of San Terenzo, Italy. While attacking a defended ridge guarding an important road junction, Second Lieutenant Inouye skillfully directed his platoon through a hail of automatic weapon and small arms fire, in a swift enveloping movement that resulted in the capture of an artillery and mortar post and brought his men to within 40 yards of the hostile force. Emplaced in bunkers and rock formations, the enemy halted the advance with crossfire from three machine guns. With complete disregard for his personal safety, Second Lieutenant Inouye crawled up the treacherous slope to within five yards of the nearest machine gun and hurled two grenades, destroying the emplacement. Before the enemy could retaliate, he stood up and neutralized a second machine gun nest. Although wounded by a sniper&rsquo;s bullet, he continued to engage other hostile positions at close range until an exploding grenade shattered his right arm. Despite the intense pain, he refused evacuation and continued to direct his platoon until enemy resistance was broken and his men were again deployed in defensive positions. In the attack, 25 enemy soldiers were killed and eight others captured. By his gallant, aggressive tactics and by his indomitable leadership, Second Lieutenant Inouye enabled his platoon to advance through formidable resistance, and was instrumental in the capture of the ridge. Second Lieutenant Inouye&rsquo;s extraordinary heroism and devotion to duty are in keeping with the highest traditions of military service and reflect great credit on him, his unit, and the United States Army. <br />
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    <published>2009-02-10T13:35:37Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from fdcol63 on 2009-02-10</title>
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        <![CDATA[Josh,<br />
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From the following website:<br />
<a href="http://www.cmohs.org/medal/medal_history.htm" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.cmohs.org/medal/medal_history.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cmohs.org/medal/medal_history.htm</a></a><br />
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<em>&quot;On December 9, 1861 Iowa Senator James W. Grimes introduced S. No. 82 in the United States Senate, a bill designed to &quot;promote the efficiency of the Navy&quot; by authorizing the production and distribution of &quot;medals of honor&quot;. On December 21st the bill was passed, authorizing 200 such medals be produced &quot;which shall be bestowed upon such petty officers, seamen, landsmen and marines as shall distinguish themselves by their gallantry in action and other seamanlike qualities during the present war (Civil War).&quot; President Lincoln signed the bill and the (Navy) Medal of Honor was born.&quot;<br />
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&quot;Two months later on February 17, 1862 Massachusetts Senator Henry Wilson introduced a similar bill, this one to authorize &quot;the President to distribute medals to privates in the Army of the United States who shall distinguish themselves in battle.&quot; Over the following months wording changed slightly as the bill made its way through Congress. When President Abraham Lincoln signed S.J.R. No. 82 on July 12, 1862, the Army Medal of Honor was born. It read in part:&quot;<br />
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<em>&quot;Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the President of the United States be, and he is hereby, authorized to cause two thousand &quot;medals of honor&quot; to be prepared with suitable emblematic devices, and to direct that the same be presented, in the name of the Congress, to such non--commissioned officers and privates as shall most distinguish themselves by their gallantry in action, and other soldier-like qualities, during the present insurrection (Civil War).&quot;<br />
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<em>&quot;With this simple and rather obscure act Congress created a unique award that would achieve prominence in American history like few others.&quot;</em>]]>
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    <published>2009-02-10T13:26:32Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Josh on 2009-02-10</title>
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        <![CDATA[Who originally started saying &quot;Congressional Medal of Honor&quot;?&nbsp; I've heard it everywhere, I know I've even said it a few times, but I have no idea who started that.<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-02-10T13:05:17Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Grumpy on 2009-02-10</title>
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        <![CDATA[John, The old man from the past, noted in this thread, 9 Feb 2009, 6:39PM. We continued to talk. He boiled your search down to the following, You are looking for living Military Personnel awarded the Congressional Medal of &nbsp;Honor during George W. Bush Administration for Acts of Heroism. This is the right time and the right question. This is an Award for the living, not JUST the dead. I hope I'm wrong!<br />
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    <published>2009-02-10T06:30:19Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from TetVet68 on 2009-02-10</title>
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        <![CDATA[To continue on topic, also visit my photo album snapshot of Medal of Honor Recipient Colonel H. C. Donlon, USA (Ret.) and Medal of Honor Recipient Lieutenant John W. Finn, USN (Ret.), Memorial Day Ceremony, Mount Soledad Veterans Memorial, San Diego, California.<br />
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<a href="http://news.webshots.com/photo/1365052852054062406jIvINm" rel="nofollow">http://news.webshots.com/photo/1365052852054062406jIvINm</a><br />
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TetVet68<br />
San Diego, California]]>
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    <published>2009-02-10T06:07:18Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from TetVet68 on 2009-02-09</title>
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        <![CDATA[&nbsp;America's oldest living Medal of Honor recipient, living his 100th year is former enlisted Chief Petty Officer, Aviation Chief Ordnanceman (ACOM), later wartime commissioned Lieutenant John W. Finn, USN (Ret.). He is also the last surviving Medal of Honor, &quot;The Day of Infamy&quot;, Japanese Attack on the Hawaiian Islands, Naval Air Station, Kaneohe Bay, Oahu, Territory of Hawaii, 7 December 1941.<br />
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Visit my photo album tribute:<br />
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<a href="http://news.webshots.com/album/141695570BONFYl" rel="nofollow">http://news.webshots.com/album/141695570BONFYl</a><br />
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San Diego, California<br />
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    <published>2009-02-10T05:21:13Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ryan Yantis on 2009-02-09</title>
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        <name>Ryan Yantis</name>
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        <![CDATA[All - please consider visiting our website at <a href="http://www.pritzkermilitarylibrary.org" rel="nofollow">www.pritzkermilitarylibrary.org</a> and checkout our free archived webcast events.&nbsp;&nbsp;We have over 24 Interviews with Medal of Honor recipients at our LIbrary.&nbsp;&nbsp;These events are webcast live(you can submit&nbsp;questions from the web) and admission is free.&nbsp;<br />
Chicago will host the 2009 Medal of Honor Convention, Sept 15-19, 2009.&nbsp;]]>
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    <published>2009-02-10T02:16:32Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[In re-reading the post, I suddenly understand what Big Tobacco was talking about.&nbsp; I'm glad I was confused, because what the heck, we've gone and listed everybody who's been award the Medal of Honor for the last ten years, and that's a good thing all on it's own.<br />
<br />
Just in case any one else is confused, I was referring to&nbsp;Medals as awarded by war - not the actual date of receipt.&nbsp; I'll go tweak the post to make that a little clearer.]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-02-10T00:58:10Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-10T00:58:10Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84069</id>
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    <title>Comment from Grumpy on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>Grumpy</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[John, this is relative to a previous posts, both of them, subject - &quot;Arbeit Macht Frei.&quot; There was a friend I know, actually both he and his wife, each were a member of twins. &nbsp;He has no use of his hands, he and his wife were both experimented on, by Joseph Mengala or &quot;Doctor Death.&quot; &nbsp;People don't understand there is an unbreakable relationship between the &quot;Concentration Camps&quot; and present-day Israel. We must understand the delayed cost for any choice by the Nazis.<br />
<br />
The survivors had this one saying, &quot;Never Forget&quot;, he kept saying it. Then, he said, &quot;He (you) gets it. This doesn't mean we become like the Nazis, but we (Israel) must defend ourselves.&quot;&nbsp;I&nbsp;showed him the picture of you at the top of this post. It was funny, he looked around to make sure his wife wife was out of the room, he called me by name. He then said, &quot;This is a man (you) who has a big heart, he has big brass and not on his shoulders - BIG&nbsp;ONES!<br />
<br />
This is a response to your comment 9 Feb 2009, 3:36PM. Both of us wish you the very best! You deserve to know!<br />
<br />
Grumpy]]>
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    <published>2009-02-10T00:39:38Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-10T00:39:38Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84068</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.thedonovan.com">
        <![CDATA[Oh, I give up.&nbsp; It's time to just quit doing this and find something else to keep me busy.]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-02-09T21:36:31Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T21:36:31Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84067</id>
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    <title>Comment from fdcol63 on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>fdcol63</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[Or they're.&nbsp; LOL]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-02-09T21:18:47Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T21:18:47Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84066</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.thedonovan.com">
        <![CDATA[Sigh. &nbsp;I really do know the difference between &quot;there&quot; and &quot;their,&quot; too.]]>
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    <published>2009-02-09T21:00:50Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T21:00:50Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84065</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[Heh.&nbsp; I'm not sure you got my point, BT.&nbsp; I was after their&nbsp;being no&nbsp;living recipients of the Medal in *the*&nbsp;current conflict, not the catching up from previous conflicts .&nbsp; Below is a list of living and dead recipients, to include men who would have been alive had the Medals been approved in a timely manner that have been awarded in the last 10 years, including Medals going back to the Civil War, and some of those awards indicate some of the politics that can attach to the award.<br />
<br />
We've given out Medals of Honor to the following people not already mentioned in this post or the comments to it:<br />
<br />
March 3rd, 2008 Woodrow Wilson Keeble (Korea)<br />
February 26th, 2007 Bruce P. Crandall (Vietnam)<br />
July 8th, 2002 Humbert R. Versace (Vietnam)<br />
May 1st, 2002 Ben L. Salomon&nbsp; (WWII)<br />
May 1st, 2002 Jon E. Swanson (Vietnam)<br />
July 16, 2001 Ed W. Freeman&nbsp; (Vietnam)<br />
January, 2001 Andrew Jackson Smith (Civil War)<br />
January 16, 2001 Theodore Roosevelt (Spanish American War)<br />
December 8th, 2000 William H. Pitsenbarger (Vietnam)<br />
<br />
June 21st, 2000 20 World War II Veterans (Japanese-Americans denied the Medals due to their ancestry)<br />
PRIVATE MIKIO HASEMOTO <br />
PRIVATE SHIZUYA HAYASHI <br />
PRIVATE FIRST CLASS KAORU MOTO <br />
PRIVATE FIRST CLASS KIYOSHI K. MURANAGA <br />
PRIVATE MASATO NAKAE <br />
PRIVATE SHINYEI NAKAMINE <br />
PRIVATE FIRST CLASS WILLIAM K. NAKAMURA <br />
STAFF SERGEANT ALLAN M. OHATA <br />
STAFF SERGEANT KAZUO OTANI <br />
TECHNICAL SERGEANT TED T. TANOUYE <br />
PRIVATE BARNEY F. HAJIRO<br />
PRIVATE JOE HAYASHI<br />
PRIVATE FIRST CLASS JOE M. NISHIMOTO<br />
TECHNICAL SERGEANT YUKIO OKUTSU <br />
PRIVATE FIRST CLASS FRANK H. ONO<br />
PRIVATE GEORGE T. SAKATO <br />
FIRST LIEUTENANT DANIEL K. INOUYE <br />
SECOND LIEUTENANT RUDOLPH B. DAVILA <br />
STAFF SERGEANT ROBERT T. KURODA <br />
CAPTAIN FRANCIS B. WAI<br />
<br />
February 8th, 2000 Alfred Rascon (Vietnam)<br />
July 10th, 1998 Robert R. Ingram (Vietnam)<br />
January 20th, 1998 James L. Day (WWII)<br />
<br />
Links to those citations can be found by <a href="http://www.cmohs.org/recipients/most_recent.htm" rel="nofollow">clicking here</a>.]]>
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    <published>2009-02-09T20:54:52Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T20:54:52Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84064</id>
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    <title>Comment from Big tobacco on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>Big tobacco</name>
        <uri>http://www.sargeasmic.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[&nbsp;I would point out Tibor Rubin, a Jewish soldier who was born in Hungary. &nbsp;He survived a Nazi death camp only to join the American Army and be sent to Korea. &nbsp;He was captured by the Chinese and put in a POW camp. &nbsp;When they found out he was Hungarian, they offered to send him back to communist Hungary. &nbsp;He refused, and used the skills he learned in the death camp (stealing food and medicine) to save the lives of forty of his fellow prisoners.<br />
<br />
He is very much alive and finally got his MoH in 2005. &nbsp;<br />
<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibor_Rubin" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibor_Rubin</a><br />
<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-02-09T20:17:59Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T20:17:59Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84060</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jim Mowrey on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jim Mowrey</name>
        
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        I&apos;d love to get a copy of his book. Let me know the details, please.
    </content>
    <published>2009-02-09T19:26:17Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T19:26:17Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84058</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[Sorry Mindy.&nbsp; Fixed.]]>
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    <published>2009-02-09T18:24:21Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T18:24:21Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84057</id>
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    <title>Comment from mindy abraham on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>mindy abraham</name>
        
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        It&apos;s MONSOOR, not Mansoor
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    <published>2009-02-09T18:11:57Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T18:11:57Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84056</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[Honestly don't know, Neffi.&nbsp; Nils Hanssen, who's a BCN member, I believe, always has a table there.]]>
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    <published>2009-02-09T18:01:58Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T18:01:58Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84055</id>
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    <title>Comment from Neffi on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>Neffi</name>
        
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        John, have you ever met George Wheeler at the show? He&apos;s a member of the BCN and author of a book on German bayonets- he lives somewhere around you and goes to the show...
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    <published>2009-02-09T17:50:36Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T17:50:36Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84054</id>
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    <title>Comment from John (not the armorer) on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>John (not the armorer)</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[Just to be in the presence of a MOH&nbsp;recipient is itself an honor.<br />
<br />
Universally, they seem to be modest, humble, and feel somewhat unworthy of the honor they have received [although we know that they damn well EARNED it!].&nbsp; Just regular guys, who were doing their job to the best of their ability when things got bad.<br />
<br />
I have shaken the hands of three of&nbsp; these heroes, two now deceased.&nbsp; It is awesome to merely be in the presence of these heroes.<br />
<br />
Our nation must never forget these men, and their deeds, and the deeds of those with whom they fought to protect our freedom.<br />
<br />
Thank you, sirs!<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-02-09T17:14:13Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T17:14:13Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84052</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[And, before some of the locals correct me (there were a surprising number of guys at the show who read the blog) - I'm sure Roger has been at the show before - this is the first time Roger and I were at the show at the same time that I remember.&nbsp;]]>
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    <published>2009-02-09T15:55:06Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T15:55:06Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84050</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[I should add - I'm pretty sure Chuck couldn't pick me out of a crowd - a *lot* more people know him than he knows, so to speak, and I don't mean to imply a personal relationship with either of these gentlemen.&nbsp; Just observing that because of where I work and live, I get to meet and greet Holders every now and again, and not always at &quot;events.&quot;<br />
<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-02-09T15:52:12Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T15:52:12Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84049</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[The show happens every year, EC.&nbsp; This is the first year Roger has attended.&nbsp; He lives here in Leavenworth. &nbsp;I actually get a chance to chat with him a couple of times a year. <br />
<br />
When I run into Chuck Hagemeister, it's usually in the PX...]]>
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    <published>2009-02-09T15:47:47Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T15:47:47Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from El Capitan on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>El Capitan</name>
        <uri>http://tmmkkt22.blogspot.com</uri>
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        Didn&apos;t realize this was going on just south of here.  Let me know if you hear of any events like this coming up to Omaha.  I&apos;d love to meet these guys.

V/R

EC
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    <published>2009-02-09T15:35:36Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T15:35:36Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from fishmugger on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>fishmugger</name>
        
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        Will do John. Since he&apos;s Vice Chair of the MOH Foundation he should have an interesting response.
    </content>
    <published>2009-02-09T15:33:25Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T15:33:25Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84046</id>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>AFSister</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[How sad is it that our current MoH recipients are now doubting their heroics when comparing their citations to the DSC citations currently being issued?&nbsp; Very sad.<br />
<br />
What an honor though, John, to have been able to speak to the Colonel!]]>
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    <published>2009-02-09T15:22:56Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-09T15:22:56Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2009://1.10382-comment:84045</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-02-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
    </author>
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        Fishmugger - ask him what he thinks about no living recipients in the war thus far - plus, as far as I&apos;m concerned, the relative paucity of Medals vice the VCs our Commonwealth allies have been awarding, given the relative exposure to combat.
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    <published>2009-02-09T15:21:37Z</published>
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        I would love to have his book!
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    <published>2009-02-09T15:17:54Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from fishmugger on 2009-02-09</title>
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        <![CDATA[I found him.<br />
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Born in Brooklyn and living in Queens near LaGuardia Airport as a child, Jacobs moved with his family to Woodbridge Township, New Jersey in the mid-1950s and was a 1962 graduate of Woodbridge High School.[1] He entered military service through Rutgers University ROTC, where he earned B.A. and M.A. degrees, and received the Medal of Honor in 1969 for exceptional heroism on the battlefields of Vietnam. He also holds three Bronze Stars, two Silver Stars, and two Purple Heart Medals. Jacobs was an advisor to a Vietnamese infantry battalion when it came under a devastating fire that disabled the commander. Although bleeding from severe head wounds, then 1st Lt. Jacobs took command, withdrew the unit to safety, and returned again and again under intense fire to rescue the wounded and perform life-saving first aid. He saved the lives of a U.S. advisor and 13 allied soldiers.<br />
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Jacobs served on the faculty of the United States Military Academy at West Point and the National War College in Washington, D.C. After retirement, he founded and was chief operating officer of Auto Finance Group. As a managing director of Bankers Trust Co., he led Global Investment Management to $2.2 billion in assets and later co-founded a similar business for Lehman Brothers. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and is the Vice Chairman of the Medal of Honor Foundation. He is also a military analyst for NBC/MSNBC.<br />
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Jacobs is married, has a grown daughter and two sons, and he lives in Far Hills, New Jersey. He has also been a resident of the Millington section of Long Hill Township, New Jersey.<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-02-09T15:17:15Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from fishmugger on 2009-02-09</title>
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        <![CDATA[Update:<br />
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The gentleman's name is Col Jack Jacobs. Millington library, Monday evening Feb 16.<br />
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I think I'm getting too old to type and remember at the same time. Is a challenge.]]>
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    <published>2009-02-09T15:07:19Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Fishmugger on 2009-02-09</title>
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        <![CDATA[Hey John,<br />
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A gentleman named Jackson will be at the Millington, NJ Library (he lives in Millington)&nbsp;in a couple of Sundays to give a little speach and answer questions. He's a Nam MOH and...Yes...I'm going to go shake his hand and chat him up a bit.<br />
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It's not every day a person gets to shake the hand of a living MOH.]]>
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    <published>2009-02-09T14:56:31Z</published>
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