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            <title>Plus ça change...</title>
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The Skeleton Tank.</description>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:16:53 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from jsallison on 2009-03-02</title>
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                <![CDATA[For Mikey; given our current capabilities, in a situation where someone is likely shooting back at you, the niceties of point of aim and suchlike, while of endlessly entertaining debate on YouTube, pale to insignificance in comparison to the center of mass - SHOOT school.&nbsp; If you have time to piddle about with point of aim, you are not in mortal danger, so why are you giving away your position by shooting?<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:55:28 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Josh on 2009-03-02</title>
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                <![CDATA[<em>All our new tanks will be canvas covered plywood, armored with multiple layers of hope, and powered by 2,000 unicorn power motors.</em><br />
<br />
No no, it's powered by believing in change (of its own location)...<br />
<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:37:31 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Terrapod on 2009-03-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[Looks like the prototype or mockup for &quot;l'enfant terrible&quot; of 1914 vintage.]]>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:14:13 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from PA on 2009-03-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[All our new tanks will be canvas covered plywood, armored with multiple layers of hope, and powered by 2,000 unicorn power motors.<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:00:49 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-03-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[Then you'd get <a href="http://www.howeandhowe.com/pav_1_pics.html" rel="nofollow"><strong>*this*</strong></a>...<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:56:53 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Cricket on 2009-03-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[Well, I am not a strategy type person.&nbsp; My comment was along the lines of why use a tank when dune buggies are faster and designed for sand?&nbsp; Why not flesh them out with some armor and firepower?<br />
Just asking.]]>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:24:40 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Mikey NTH on 2009-03-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[It is a test-bed, right?&nbsp; Because the lack of protection on the treads shows exactly where to shoot to disable this tank.<br />
<br />
And bogie wheels?&nbsp; Blast from the past!]]>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:15:26 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-02-28</title>
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                Well, Cricket, there&apos;s nothing wrong with that approach at all...
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            <pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:51:05 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Cricket on 2009-02-28</title>
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                <![CDATA[I had a comment, but at the risk of exposing myself for the ignoramus I know I am, I want to ask about targeting the tracks and wheels.&nbsp; That's what *I* would do if I had to cripple it.&nbsp; Proceed to ensmarten me, but please have a care for my poor mind.&nbsp; You will have to use small words and connect the dots.]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:29:33 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from AFSister on 2009-02-27</title>
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                <![CDATA[Well, you may have&nbsp; a point there, John.&nbsp; After reading the information at Howe, it looks like they rigged that sucker up with minimal cash.&nbsp; Further development and testing probably won't add a lot to the current cost.&nbsp; Interesting.&nbsp; I wish I had the brains and the means to build something as kewl as a ginormous remote control tank!]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:58:35 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-02-27</title>
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                <![CDATA[Yeah, I was afraid that's where they were located. Based on the paucity of exhaust vents and intakes, I'm assuming the crew that did the initial testing either used supplemental oxygen or unassed the vehicle ten seconds after ignition.<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:42:12 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-02-27</title>
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                <![CDATA[Oh, they're *in* the crew compartment.&nbsp; I'm sure it was just a luvverly place to be with frabjously wondrous ergonomics.]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:21:23 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2009-02-27</title>
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                <![CDATA[<em>Less stuff for the bad guys to hit and cause internal spalling and ricocheting about in the fighting compartment. </em><br />
<br />
And the tradeoff is -- now the bad guys knew where to concentrate their fire. Directly into the in-plain-sight crew compartment.<br />
<br />
BTW, where'd they put the dual 50hp chuggers -- out in the unprotected portion or inside the crew cabin?]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:01:54 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from AW1 Tim on 2009-02-27</title>
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                <![CDATA[<br />
&nbsp; yea, a BMP w/ a TOW on top... :) You're right, though.. at first glance its a WTF moment.&nbsp;&nbsp; Gonna be fun times on the target recco days of the training cyclce. Especially fun, because you're gonna hafta bring in all the Navy &amp; AF zoomies too..... <br />
<br />
&nbsp; respects,<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:14:11 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from SSG Jeff (USAR) on 2009-02-27</title>
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                <![CDATA[Gunner, target - BMP!<br />
Up! <br />
Fire.... ooops. <br />
<br />
At least that was my first impression on glancing at that knife-edge prow. <br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:51:14 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-02-27</title>
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                Oh, I dunno, AFSis - he could kill FCS in *favor* of this much cheaper robot.
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            <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:56:33 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from AFSister on 2009-02-27</title>
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                <![CDATA[How much you wanna bet Obama cuts funding for this project under his new military budget?&nbsp; He's already promised to eliminate expensive weapons programs, and seems to be focusing on those that are still basically on the drawing board, like this new tank.<br />
<br />
All hail, Obeyme, who obviously doesn't subscribe to the idea of intimidating your enemies into submission without firing a shot.]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:39:12 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from RetRsvMike on 2009-02-27</title>
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                <![CDATA[with a flanged sprocket, and return rollers the same size as the road wheels...&nbsp;&nbsp; should be in for some fun testing.&nbsp; i know the first thing i would do would be to pivot steer me some doughnuts.<br />
<br />
and, yes, that 1918 skeleton is a lovely lean beastie.<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 07:33:32 -0600</pubDate>
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