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  <title>Comments for The Guild Versus the Amateurs</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2009-01-28T15:47:14Z</published>
    <updated>2009-01-28T15:52:34Z</updated>
    <title>The Guild Versus the Amateurs</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[Cannoneer #4 has a post up, regarding the militia.&nbsp; It continues a discussion that started here, in the comments of this post.&nbsp; For the record - I'm a Guild Member.

This would be the militia in the traditional sense, vice the sense we've come to accept in the National Guard construct.

Professionals don&rsquo;t like amateurs, hobbyists or enthusiasts doing for free what they get paid for. A profession has to have entry credentials, some sort of officially recognized certificate of competency to practice, arcane jargon with which to baffle outsiders, and overweening certitude that nobody can do what they do as well as they do.

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A recent post about the Alaska Territorial Guard in WWII got me to thinking about sub-national military and paramilitary capabilities. Sub-national as in echelons below fedgov.mil. The ATG had to be recruited because the Alaska National Guard had been mobilized for federal service and sent off to Washington State before the war started. That could happen again to your state. The Army National Guard and Air National Guard are Reserve Components of the federal armed forces, paid, equipped, and trained with federal taxpayer money, and if you have a Category 5 hurricane while the best part of your state&rsquo;s National Guard is in Darfur delivering pizza, well, DoD regrets the inconvenience, I&rsquo;m sure.
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Go take a look.&nbsp; Dumba$$ amateurs&nbsp; The weenie-like dollar sign subs are mine, in my continuing fight with the Net Nannies.&nbsp; #4 is rather more direct.]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[Cannoneer #4 has a post up, regarding the militia.&nbsp; It continues a discussion that started here, in the <a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2009/01/epic_fail.html">comments of this post</a>.&nbsp; For the record - I'm a Guild Member.<br /><br />This would be the militia in the traditional sense, vice the sense we've come to accept in the National Guard construct.<br /><blockquote><div>Professionals don&rsquo;t like amateurs, hobbyists or enthusiasts doing for free what they get paid for. A profession has to have entry credentials, some sort of officially recognized certificate of competency to practice, arcane jargon with which to baffle outsiders, and overweening certitude that nobody can do what they do as well as they do.<br /><br />[snippage]<br /><br />A recent post about the Alaska Territorial Guard in WWII got me to thinking about sub-national military and paramilitary capabilities. Sub-national as in echelons below fedgov.mil. The ATG had to be recruited because the Alaska National Guard had been mobilized for federal service and sent off to Washington State before the war started. That could happen again to your state. The Army National Guard and Air National Guard are Reserve Components of the federal armed forces, paid, equipped, and trained with federal taxpayer money, and if you have a Category 5 hurricane while the best part of your state&rsquo;s National Guard is in Darfur delivering pizza, well, DoD regrets the inconvenience, I&rsquo;m sure.<br />&nbsp;</div></blockquote>﻿<br />Go take a look.&nbsp; <a href="http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2009/01/27/dumbass-amateurs/">Dumba$$ amateurs</a>&nbsp; The weenie-like dollar sign subs are mine, in my continuing fight with the Net Nannies.&nbsp; #4 is rather more direct.]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from Old Fat Sailor on 2009-01-29</title>
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        If not they should get the mukluk.... just couldn&apos;t pass that up-sorry
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    <published>2009-01-29T10:25:51Z</published>
    <updated>2009-01-29T10:25:51Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Cannoneer No. 4 on 2009-01-28</title>
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        <name>Cannoneer No. 4</name>
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        <![CDATA[<a href="http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/670533.html" rel="nofollow">Army plans payment to Territorial Guard veterans</a><br />
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<em>Army Secretary Pete Geren will dip into an emergency fund to cover the pay for the 26 former members of the largely Native guard, according to the delegation. The one-time emergency payment will equal two months' pay while Congress works on legislation to fix the law to allow the service in the unit to counts as active duty for calculating retirement pay</em>.
</blockquote>So the AK CoDel has two months to bring home the <em>muktuk.<br />
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    <published>2009-01-29T05:20:36Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Rod Thorsen on 2009-01-28</title>
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        <![CDATA[Some good news for the ATG<br />
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<a href="http://www.newsminer.com/news/2009/jan/28/army-provide-retirement-pay-members-wwii-alaska-mi/" rel="nofollow">www.newsminer.com/news/2009/jan/28/army-provide-retirement-pay-members-wwii-alaska-mi/</a><br />]]>
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    <published>2009-01-29T02:45:07Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from RetRsvMike on 2009-01-28</title>
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        <![CDATA[don't EVEN get me started on the amateur guild here in my state.....<br />
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yikes!!<br />
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all they need is a Charlie-In-A-Box and they'll have a regular Island of Misfit Toys.<br />]]>
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    <published>2009-01-28T17:42:39Z</published>
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