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            <title>On why the blog was founded</title>
            <description><![CDATA[Yesterday, in the H&amp;I Fires post, I put up a link to a breaking story in New Jersey. The lede in the story was this:

State police have seized a huge cache of weapons, including semi-automatic rifles, and more than a half-million rounds of ammunition at a home in Franklin Township, Gloucester County.
Josh commented thusly:


Except for the fact that you don't have much ammunition around, how would this be any different from the police showing up at YOUR door for something unrelated? (This is of course assuming that Brian Hinkle's weapons are legal).

I think the anti-gun fanatics simply equate firearms possession with ill-intent and therefore, once you amass enough firearms, you're clearly an evil person who is just mass murder waiting to happen.

&quot;Except for the fact that you don't have much ammunition around... &quot;

Heh. Depends on how you define &quot;much.&quot; To most people, I have a vast amount. To pure hunters, especially the country club set, I have vast amounts. To serious sport shooters, I don't have much at all, and howcum I don't load my own to achieve perfect shot nirvana? The hunters will ask that latter question, too.

But especially to Joe and Jane UrbanSixpack, I have a lot of ammo - several thousand rounds, especially of .223, 7.62x39/51/54, 8mm Mauser, 30-06 and .303 British, with lesser amounts of .45, 9mm, 38 S&amp;W, 7.62 Tokarev, and token amounts of numerous other calibers, such as 7.5 French, 6.5 Swede, 7.7 Jap, .45-70 Gov't, and .577 Snider...

&quot;I think the anti-gun fanatics simply equate firearms possession with ill-intent and therefore, once you amass enough firearms, you're clearly an evil person who is just mass murder waiting to happen.&quot;

It isn't just the anti-gun fanatics, Josh. A founding purpose of this blog was to show people that the guy next door could have a basement full of guns, and that he can be a moderately normal and productive member of society, and not a threat to you or themselves, and someone you can trust around your kids. Sadly, I have had just the opposite impact for the bayonet collecting community... making *them* look like low-functioning 'tards.&nbsp; [Still #1 in Google!]]]></description>
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            <title>Comment from Josh on 2009-02-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[Errr...meant to italicize that third paragraph...<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from Josh on 2009-02-01</title>
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                <![CDATA[<em>Josh,<br />
.577 Snider is straight cased, unlike the 577/450 Martini-Henry </em><br />
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Ah yes, my mistake.&nbsp; I can never keep the two straight.<br />
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I'm not saying everything must go, But there are some nagging questions, thing just don't make sense. We have a medically retired policeman, living, on a fixed income, They can account for 259 rifles and over  half a million rounds of ammunition. He has black powder for reloading.  He has an underground bunker for the ammunition. There were no .22's, this was all the more exotic weaponry. There are many more questions to be answered.<br />
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I don't know how much money he has available and how little you could acquire such stuff for, or even how long he has been amassing it...but I don't like to be to quick to jump on the &quot;Poor people can't afford that, he must be a criminal!&quot; card.&nbsp; It's possible, but I prefer give the guy the benefit of the doubt until I see SOME evidence otherwise.<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-01-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[Now, all that said, Grumpy - if you want to keep an eye on Mr. Hinkle's case and report out about it periodically - that's fine and good - just a different subject!<br />
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So, keep at it!]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:06:00 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Grumpy on 2009-01-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[&nbsp;Armorer,<br />
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Message received, for me, issue closed. Thank you, for your counsel.<br />
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V/R Grumpy]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:07:51 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from SezaGeoff on 2009-01-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[Just like they would tend to say about me &quot;Not only did he have many firearms and much ammunition, but he also had books with titles like ' A lifetime of Shooting and Murder'.&quot;<br />
That is actually the subtitle of the autobiography - &quot;The Other Mr. Churchill&quot; - the gunmaker and original forensic scientist.&nbsp;]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:37:37 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-01-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[Grumpy - I'm not sure I've made my motivation clear regarding Mr. Hinkle.<br />
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I'm perfectly willing to let law enforcement do its job in any specific case, and wish them the well of it, as long as they are playing by the rules.<br />
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I'm not making a judgement on Hinkle's specific case.&nbsp; If he's innocent, I hope it turns out well for him.<br />
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My point was countering/offering up a different narrative to the one generally offered by LE and the Press, which is &quot;Oooo! Scary!&nbsp; Lots of Guns!&nbsp; Lots of Bullets!&nbsp; Bunker!&nbsp; Assault Rifles!&nbsp; Semi-Automatic weapons!&nbsp; WWII military-style arms!&quot;<br />
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All of which is true, but in the context presented is &quot;Danger Will Robinson!&nbsp; Danger!&quot;&nbsp; &quot;Scary!&quot;<br />
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My counterpoint is that all of that description, less the slant and hyperbole, applies to my basement.&nbsp; And if, for some reason, I were the subject of LE interest, they could well characterize my vault as &quot;a bunker-like storage area!&quot;<br />
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I'm just throwing it out there that not everybody, not even most, of the people who have basements like mine are a threat.&nbsp; And you have no idea how many of us there actually are.&nbsp; <br />
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I'm not defending or attacking Mr Hinkle or the Jersey law enforcement guys.<br />
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I'm just sayin' that there can be perfectly valid explanations for the same situation that don't involve bad motives or actors.]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:48:48 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Grumpy on 2009-01-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[I've been doing some reading on this case. I'm not saying everything must go, But there are some nagging questions, thing just don't make sense. We have a medically retired policeman, living, on a fixed income, They can account for 259 rifles and over &nbsp;half a million rounds of ammunition. He has black powder for reloading. &nbsp;He has an underground bunker for the ammunition. There were no .22's, this was all the more exotic weaponry. There are many more questions to be answered.]]>
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            <title>Comment from htom on 2009-01-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[At the time, the cost of a thousand rounds was being described as more than a thousand dollars. My double brick was $12.98 and people wouldn't believe that, until they saw the receipt. It's not only plain ignorance we have to fight, but &quot;the things you know, that are not so&quot;. <br />
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&quot;I thought that only rich people could have shooting as a hobby; this looks almost cheap!&quot; &quot;Well, shooting .22, it's about two cents a round. Ammo, cleaning supplies, batteries for the earmuffs, targets.&quot; &quot;Batteries?&quot; ... gentle safety lecture follows, showing the difference between the &quot;target shooting culture&quot; and the gangsta culture, benchrest, cowboy ... I don't get everyone hooked, by a long shot, but I've gotten a few. And moved many more from passionate anti-gun to &quot;it's a hobby, leave them alone.&quot;<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from SezaGeoff on 2009-01-31</title>
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                <![CDATA[Josh,<br />
.577 Snider is straight cased, unlike the 577/450 Martini-Henry which was also a Boxer case, but bottlenecked.&nbsp; That said, it is cool looking.<br />
What I like is the fact that the blanks for both are interchangeable as they are only as long as the 577 parent part of the 577/450.]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:15:02 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John (not the armorer) on 2009-01-30</title>
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                <![CDATA[I note that the Armorer is NOT yet a member of the Society of American Bayonet Collectors, <a href="http://BayonetCollectors.org" rel="nofollow">http://BayonetCollectors.org</a> but he should be.&nbsp; <br />
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As far as age of ammo-&nbsp; depending on storage conditions over the years, and original quality, stuff back through WW2 is still quite reliable.&nbsp; Of course, some Slobovian stuff only a few years old can be junk, so age alone is not the best cirteria to judge serviceability.<br />
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For home storage, plain old GI&nbsp;ammo cans are fine.&nbsp; There is little risk from storing even large quantities of small arms ammo, even in case of a fire.&nbsp;&nbsp; The average &quot;stuff&quot; filled home garage with a couple of cans of gas for lawn mowers, a propane tank for a BBQ a small propane torch or camp stove and a few cans of spray paint or bug spray has about the same potential for burning and throwing stray bits and pieces a few paces.&nbsp; Small arms ammo in a fire does not go &quot;shooting&quot; off great distances as if it were fired from a gun.&nbsp; Any solid surface stronger than a cardboard box will pretty well stop any bits or pieces of cartridge case or primers blown out of the case.&nbsp;&nbsp; Ignore the hysterical accounts in the media or movie scenes which show huge secondary explosions if some small arms ammo is on fire.&nbsp;&nbsp; [Larger ammunition with explosive projectiles is an entirely different story, but that stuff is basically illegal, so none of us need worry about it.]<br />
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-01-30</title>
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                <![CDATA[htom - I like that idea.&nbsp; Why the receipt?]]>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2009-01-30</title>
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                <![CDATA[Neffi - maybe....<br />
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Josh - any number of Mauser rifles, plus a Hakim.&nbsp; The Hakim is fun to shoot.&nbsp; As long as you're doing the shooting.&nbsp; If you're on either side of that pepperpot muzzle break... not so much!]]>
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            <title>Comment from Grumpy on 2009-01-30</title>
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                <![CDATA[John,<br />
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This is a toxic issue, therefore, let's try to shed some light on it. &nbsp;Supposedly, the individual is a medically retired policeman and has been for 23 years. Supposedly, they found 259 firearms with more ammunition, than most gun shops. NJ&nbsp;State Police and ATF have been called in to execute a search warrant. There are many questions. There are questions about his disability, but I'm not going there. The big question, how and when did he acquire these firearms and ammunition?<br />
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My big question, how old is the ammunition and where are you storing it?<br />
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Check-<br />
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<a href="http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/185/story/388163.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/185/story/388163.html</a>]]>
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            <title>Comment from htom on 2009-01-30</title>
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                <![CDATA[There was a time when I routinely carried (locked in a 7.62 ammo case in my trunk) a shrink-wrapped double brick of .22LR (with receipt taped to it) to show to ignorant people what a thousand rounds of ammo might be.&nbsp; Most frequent response? &quot;That's a thousand rounds? I could put that in my purse/ briefcase!&quot;, followed by a few calculating how big a million rounds would be.<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from Josh on 2009-01-30</title>
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                <![CDATA[Well, I wouldn't consider a few thousand rounds VAST, maybe a lot, but not vast, and definitely not much compared to the number of firearms you have.<br />
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<em>especially of .223, 7.62x39/51/54, 8mm Mauser, 30-06 and .303 British, with lesser amounts of .45, 9mm, 38 S&amp;W, 7.62 Tokarev, and token amounts of numerous other calibers, such as 7.5 French, 6.5 Swede, 7.7 Jap, .45-70 Gov't, and .577 Snider...</em><br />
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Oooooooooh...<br />
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What do you have that fires 8mm Mauser?&nbsp; Gewehr 43?<br />
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And there's something inexplicably cool about .577 Snider, just looking at it makes me all tingly...I think it's because bottlenecked cartridges on such a large scale (anything over .50, really) are nearly nonexistent...<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from Neffi on 2009-01-30</title>
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                <![CDATA[&nbsp;<em>Sadly, I have had just the opposite impact for the bayonet collecting community... making *them* look like low-functioning 'tards.<br />
</em>Harrumph. Trolling, were you?]]>
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            <title>Comment from El Capitan on 2009-01-30</title>
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                You should get your neighbors to help fund your ammo cache since you&apos;re providing your part of town with protection.
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