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  <title>Comments for Ouch</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2008-12-10T13:46:38Z</published>
    <updated>2008-12-10T14:03:50Z</updated>
    <title>Ouch</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[There's more to this press release than meets the eye.One local, six ANP killed during Coalition forces operation in ZabulKABUL, Afghanistan &ndash; During operations directed against a known insurgent commander in Zabul Province early this morning, one local national and six Afghan National Police were killed and 13 were wounded.The operation in Qalat District, approximately 120 km northeast of Kandahar, targeted a Taliban commander known to coordinate and direct attacks against Coalition forces along Highway One. He is also believed to facilitate the movement of illegal weapons into the Zabul Province.An armed militant barricaded himself inside a building and engaged...]]></summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[There's more to this press release than meets the eye.<br /><blockquote><div>One local, six ANP killed during Coalition forces operation in Zabul<br /><br />KABUL, Afghanistan &ndash; During operations directed against a known insurgent commander in Zabul Province early this morning, one local national and six Afghan National Police were killed and 13 were wounded.<br /><br />The operation in Qalat District, approximately 120 km northeast of Kandahar, targeted a Taliban commander known to coordinate and direct attacks against Coalition forces along Highway One. He is also believed to facilitate the movement of illegal weapons into the Zabul Province.<br /><br />An armed militant barricaded himself inside a building and engaged Coalition forces. He was killed, and one other was detained. Subsequently, Coalition forces received small-arms and rocket-propelled grenade (RPG) fire from a compound nearby. Multiple attempts to deter the engagement were unsuccessful. Coalition forces, concerned about the safety of women and children in the building they were searching, engaged those firing with small arms fire and coalition aircraft. It was later determined those firing on the force were ANP.<br /><br />&ldquo;Coalition forces deeply regret the incident of mistaken fire,&rdquo; said Col. Jerry O&rsquo;Hara, U.S. Forces Afghanistan spokesman. &ldquo;Initial reports indicate this was a tragic case of mistaken identity on both parts.&rdquo;<br /><br />A joint delegation from Minister of Defense, Minister of Interior and Coalition Forces are headed to the scene to conduct an investigation.</div></blockquote>&quot;One local&quot;&nbsp;means an Afghan civilian.&nbsp; <br /><br />What's missing from this?&nbsp; And not surprisingly, given this is the official press release from USFOR-A (US Forces, Afghanistan) Public Affairs?.&nbsp; The fact that the Afghan police probably didn't know the raid was coming - because we didn't tell them, because there is good reason to suspect that the ANP, in many places, is riddled with Taliban sympathizers.&nbsp; We trust the ANA, the Afghan National Army, more than we do the ANP.&nbsp; <br /><br />Still, I find it hard to believe that US SpecOps people didn't do enough&nbsp;pre-raid recon to know the ANP position was close enough to enter the engagement.&nbsp; There's more to this story than meets the eye, whether from the perspective of poorly-executed planning and coordination to something more sinister (and frankly likely)&nbsp;- such as that ANP outpost being completely in the ambit of the Taliban - which isn't something we'd be talking about out of school.<br /><br />Afghanistan&nbsp; is a *very* complex civil-military environment.&nbsp; Heh. My 'd-uh' statement of the week.]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from Blake Kirk on 2008-12-11</title>
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        <name>Blake Kirk</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[Yeah, my first thought on reading the initial reports was &quot;Were the local cops suborned by if not active supporters of the Taliban.&nbsp; Given that at least one report stated that the local police station contained enough weaponry for a heavily reinforced infantry company, there may be something to that idea.<br />
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Complex?&nbsp; Damn straight.&nbsp; It makes classic Byzantine politics look simple.&nbsp; And we're expecting captains and lieutenants to figure a lot of this out.&nbsp; With one-year rotations for the active force, (and less than that for Reserve and Guard formations,) I&nbsp;figure we're actually getting maybe six to nine months of effective ops out of many units, what with it taking a while to develop the required local knowledge and proper reationships with the locals.]]>
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    <published>2008-12-11T13:45:40Z</published>
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