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  <title>Comments for Another example of how this isn&apos;t your father&apos;s war</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2008-12-24T14:03:24Z</published>
    <updated>2008-12-24T16:34:58Z</updated>
    <title>Another example of how this isn&apos;t your father&apos;s war</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[We're doing info ops on guys who run units the size of platoons. And we need to. Can you imagine doing this in WWII or Korea? I just wish the closers for these things, the "spokespersons" quotes, weren't alway so trite-seeming in context, however accurate they may be. And I wish we would let the troops who generate these things write in a much less passive voice. It's not "professional" sounding. It's stilted and doesn't make you want to read it. Which kinda seems... well, counter to the purpose, eh? KABUL, Afghanistan &ndash; In Shinkai District of southern Zabul province,...]]></summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[We're doing info ops on guys who run units the size of platoons.

And we need to.

Can you imagine doing this in WWII or Korea?  

I just wish the closers for these things, the "spokespersons" quotes, weren't alway so trite-seeming in context, however accurate they may be.

And I wish we would let the troops who generate these things write in a much less passive voice.

It's not "professional" sounding.  It's stilted and doesn't make you want to read it.

Which kinda seems... well, counter to the purpose, eh?

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KABUL, Afghanistan &ndash; In Shinkai District of southern Zabul province, approximately 100 km northeast of Kandahar, Coalition forces targeted a Taliban sub-commander known to be in contact with multiple local senior Taliban commanders. The targeted sub-commander is assessed to control over 30 fighters in the region. These militants are responsible for coordinating and conducting roadside bomb and direct attacks against innocent civilians, GIRoA officials and Coalition forces, indiscriminately killing innocent civilians and bringing instability to the region.<br />
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During the operation, Coalition forces received PKM machine gun fire from multiple militants barricaded inside the building. Unable to neutralize the threat, the force engaged the militants with hand grenades, killing four.<br />
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A search of the building revealed one PKM machine gun, multiple AK-47s, blasting caps and wires used to make roadside bombs and bandoliers full of ammunition. The force destroyed these items to prevent future use.<br />
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&ldquo;Everyday Coalition forces put themselves at risk to stop these criminals from killing innocent Afghans,&rdquo; said Col. Jerry O&rsquo;Hara, U.S. Forces Afghanistan spokesman. &ldquo;It is these criminals that are the threat against peace here in Afghanistan. Their only intent is to scare the public, they don&rsquo;t care who they kill.&rdquo;</div>
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    <title>Comment from Grumpy on 2008-12-25</title>
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        <![CDATA[Armorer, I've been thinking about this post in the back of my mind. I believe you are right, &quot;This is not our father's war.&quot; &nbsp;But this only raises a series of questions. This is one of those things that come up behind you, very quietly and gives you a real hard back of the head slap. As I wake up, there are follow-up questions. &quot;OK, Grumpy, you believe the 'Armorer' is right. Why do you think he is right? By the way, while you're thinking about it, I have another question. As you think about your reasons, what are their impacts and implications on the Military, people and technology, but also the Nation and its society?&quot;<br />
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First, John is right, in my view, because we are not just looking at weapons, methods and principles. But we are actually working on the underlying concepts of warfare, that all of this is built on. But the big thing is we are working on it. No, it will not be a smooth transfer, but we must learn. Many of us look to the Military and the Department of Homeland Security to provide the National Security of this Nation, this is where we are wrong. We are all involved in this task. I&nbsp;am not talking about a vigilante view, just fulfill your responsibilities. &nbsp;Students, do you want to get into the military? Do your homework, take the harder math, science and foreign language. It has been over 40 years ago, one day, I was grumbling about doing the homework &nbsp;for a required research paper. My Father came into the room, didn't say a word, he grabbed 2 cups of coffee. He came back and sat down at the table where I was writing. He sat down and said, &quot;Take a break, I want to have a chat with you. Here's a cup of coffee, enjoy it. By your attitude, I figure you think the day you leave school, NO&nbsp;MORE&nbsp;HOMEWORK! Well, let me be the first to tell you, you're wrong. You'll have homework until the day you die.&quot; My Father never raised his voice, but there was a certain tone, you knew to listen. For all people in authority, my Father never demanded respect, He commanded it. He taught by example, FIRST, then by precept. It may not be your Father's Army, but don't forget the lessons, it taught.]]>
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    <published>2008-12-26T01:24:02Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.10197-comment:81993</id>
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    <title>Comment from Josh on 2008-12-24</title>
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        <![CDATA[I guess it's a balancing act between making it interesting and not looking like we enjoy this TOO much...I mean the articles could be much more entertaining if they spent more time talking about how many terrorists got explosively dismembered and such, but I suspect the military would get a lot more flak as a result...<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-12-24T22:46:46Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from KCSteve on 2008-12-24</title>
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        <![CDATA[On the other hand, it shows how awesome our capabilities are, that we can track them down at this level.<br />
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Hearing this has to make the higher ups sleep really <strike>well </strike>poorly at night.]]>
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