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  <title>Comments for There&apos;s Hope for You Yet, Bill...</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.10077</id>
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    <published>2008-11-29T14:48:32Z</published>
    <updated>2008-11-29T14:51:22Z</updated>
    <title>There&apos;s Hope for You Yet, Bill...</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[&nbsp;Now's your chance, dude....]]></summary>
    <author>
      <name><![CDATA[Dusty (AKA <em>Attila of Argghhh!</em>)]]></name>
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      <![CDATA[<u><strong><a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news/blue_angels_hold_first_ever_open">&nbsp;Now's your chance, dude.</a></strong></u>]]>
      
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.10077-comment:81043</id>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2008-12-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>AFSister</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[*waves*<br />
HI&nbsp;TWIN!<br />
<br />
I loved going to the Intrepid, knowing that your whirly was onboard.&nbsp; That was cool.&nbsp; Next time, you'll have to go with me though!]]>
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    <published>2008-12-01T19:50:12Z</published>
    <updated>2008-12-01T19:50:12Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.10077-comment:80969</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-11-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
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        <![CDATA[I landed on the bow of the <em>Intrepid</em> -- crossways. And stayed put.<br />
<br />
*waving hi to lex*<br />
<br />
Guaranteed I've *landed* -- and stayed put -- on more different types of boats than any Nasal Respirator, except for maybe the guys in HAL-3 based at SeaFloat.<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-11-30T13:09:31Z</published>
    <updated>2008-11-30T13:09:31Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.10077-comment:80965</id>
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    <title>Comment from SangerM on 2008-11-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>SangerM</name>
        <uri>http://www.canted.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[I took the FAST test in '80, around the same time I took the Defense Language Aptitude Battery.&nbsp; I&nbsp;did well on both, but the DLAB came back first, so I applied for and was accepted into the Bear Program (DLI, then re-enlistment as if I'd had the MOS the whole time).&nbsp; When the FAST results came back I tried to switch to WOC applicant for flight-school, but&nbsp;no Joy on that.&nbsp; And so, instead of earning rotary-wing airplane driver wings (just in time to have the blades taken off the Blackhawks for half a year), I ended up with crew-member wings for a stint as NCOIC of a EH-1 (Huey)&nbsp;QuickFix platoon in the FRG.&nbsp; They shine-up nice, but it's just not the same....&nbsp;<br />
<br />
As for Navy helos, who'd want to land one on something that comes up to meet you unless you have one of those deck-harpoon thingy's for winching yourself down....&nbsp; :-)<br />
<br />
<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-11-30T08:20:46Z</published>
    <updated>2008-11-30T08:20:46Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.10077-comment:80960</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-11-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
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        <![CDATA[I exaggerated not one whit. The entire episode unfolded exactly as I described it -- sometimes, the humor just writes itself.<br />
<br />
The thing I considered most amusing -- having to take the Flight Aptitude Suitability Test.&nbsp;<br />
<br />
The FAST was designed in WWII to see if high school kids who had never driven a car had<br />
&nbsp;
<br />
1. the mechanical aptitude to figure out which way a cable would be moving after traveling through a series of pulleys, 
<br />
2. what an airplane would be doing if you moved the control stick a particular way, and <br />
<br />
3. whether they could calculate simple results from simple algebraic equations.<br />
<br />
<em>However, he should have asked me to search you.</em><br />
<br />
If he'd done that, you'd be calling me &quot;Captain&quot; today.<br />
<br />
Prolly wouldn't have *been* one, but you could've called me that....<br />
<br />
Ummmm -- scratch that. You'd a-been about two years old back then.<br />
<br />
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    <published>2008-11-30T07:04:56Z</published>
    <updated>2008-11-30T07:04:56Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.10077-comment:80943</id>
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    <title>Comment from Maggie on 2008-11-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>Maggie</name>
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        <![CDATA[That was a ridiculously exaggerated story............of course he was right to be suspicious of you.....you are a suspicious character.&nbsp; <br />
<br />
However, he should have asked&nbsp;me to search you.]]>
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    <published>2008-11-29T22:44:32Z</published>
    <updated>2008-11-29T22:44:32Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.10077-comment:80942</id>
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    <title>Comment from Olga on 2008-11-29</title>
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        <name>Olga</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[I have to admit that you got me with that article LOL until the first sentence of the 2nd paragraph LOL<br />
Gosh, it was hilarious!<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-11-29T22:40:25Z</published>
    <updated>2008-11-29T22:40:25Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.10077-comment:80941</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-11-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
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        <![CDATA[Nope, he wasn't an ossifer. However, while we were reviewing the current list of openings I had qualified for, he *did* mention that I'd be suitable for NFO. I said, &quot;That's the guy who flies in the back seat, right?&quot; He said, &quot;Yes.&quot; I said, &quot;So, I'm too old to fly in a jet in the front seat, but I'm not too old to fly in a jet in the *back* seat?&quot; <br />
<br />
Swear to heaven above on a stack of Holy Writ, he answered, &quot;Yes.&quot; <br />]]>
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    <published>2008-11-29T22:22:13Z</published>
    <updated>2008-11-29T22:22:13Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.10077-comment:80940</id>
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    <title>Comment from Attila of Argghhh! on 2008-11-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>Attila of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[Now THAT'S funny! And just as scary. What was this guy's rank?&nbsp;Bosun's Buggerymate Third Class, or what? Puh-leease tell me he wasn't an ossifer. Did he know what a helicopter was? Hint:&nbsp;Do NOT use the term &quot;rotary wing aircraft&quot;--takes too many brain bytes for most people to deduce what that means.&nbsp;]]>
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    <published>2008-11-29T21:26:16Z</published>
    <updated>2008-11-29T21:26:16Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.10077-comment:80939</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-11-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
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        <![CDATA[Nah. The Navy never *did* learn what helicopters are for and they still use 'em improperly -- except when they're hauling some guy out of the drink because the fire on his flaming broomstick went out. <br />
<br />
And, I blush to admit it, I actually *did* put in for a position as a Navy helicopter pilot in 1975.<br />
<br />
1. I brought all my military records and pointed out that I already *was* a helicopter pilot -- with combat experience, with a commission. The 'cruiter didn't know how to read a DD-214, which was my first clue.<br />
<br />
2. The 'cruiter insisted I take the Flight Aptitude Suitability Test, and cautioned me that I only had an hour to complete it. I finished it in 10 minutes. And got a perfect score. Which disconcerted him, and he insisted on examining the desk I sat at (which was right in front of him) for evidence of illicit materials -- such as, a previous examinee having carved the answers into the desktop.<br />
<br />
3. He then informed me that, at the advanced age of 29, I was too *old* to fly jets. I reiterated that I didn't want to fly jets because jets were sissy stuff -- I was applying for a position as a *helicopter* pilot. He was adamant that I was too old to go through the requisite rotary wing training. I informed him that I had already *had* the requisite rotary wing training, and then he said that I was too old to fly jets.<br />
<br />
My previously-held opinion -- that a beached squid was just a single intellectual step removed from a planaria -- having now been validated, I smiled, thanked him politely, and vowed to avoid any professional ties with an organization that wore trap-door pants and danced with Marines.<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-11-29T21:16:19Z</published>
    <updated>2008-11-29T21:16:19Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.10077-comment:80937</id>
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    <title>Comment from Maggie on 2008-11-29</title>
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        <name>Maggie</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>My Dalring Chief........it's your chance to upgrade your branch of military service.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-29T20:29:35Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.10077-comment:80934</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-11-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
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        <![CDATA[Oh, geez -- she found the webcam's a two-way hookup...<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-11-29T19:41:39Z</published>
    <updated>2008-11-29T19:41:39Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.10077-comment:80931</id>
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    <title>Comment from DL Sly on 2008-11-29</title>
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        <name>DL Sly</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[Bill's not interested in that.&nbsp; Too much *starch* -- chafes his ......................... zipper.<br />
0&gt;;~}]]>
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    <published>2008-11-29T18:32:40Z</published>
    <updated>2008-11-29T18:32:40Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.10077-comment:80928</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-11-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
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        <![CDATA[Awwww -- and here I thought you were linking to Sly's webcam.<br />
<br />
The one she *doesn't* know about.<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-11-29T16:26:16Z</published>
    <updated>2008-11-29T16:26:16Z</updated>
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