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        <description>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</description>
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            <title>TINS*</title>
            <description><![CDATA[So, there I&nbsp;was, deep in an email exchange with a guy in the box and this shows up.

Bailing. Rocket.

I, of course, respond thusly:

Sigh. Geez, the shite you'll use for an excuse, dude.

Then, do I hear back from him?&nbsp; Bueller?&nbsp; Bueller?&nbsp; Anyone?

~crickets chirp~

Oh, he finally shows up again in another context, sure.

So, why am I posting this?&nbsp; This is the first war where that kind of thing is really possible.&nbsp; Where you can have a routine (for our era) conversation going on, safe in your basement knocking back a 'rita, and get a Bailing. Rocket. note in the middle of the conversation.&nbsp; 

Heh.

Oh, and dude - it is too a passing thought, and not a requirement - just to complete the conversation.

*Click &quot;read more&quot; to find out what TINS means, if you don't already know.]]></description>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-10-10</title>
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                <![CDATA[The Whizz-Bang just went Whizz-Thud.<br />
<br />
It *did* produce a new sand trap on the Air Force's golf course, though...<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:11:14 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2008-10-09</title>
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                So, Chief, I hope and trust that when the Whizz-Bang went Bang! nobody was hurt and no important stuff was damaged?
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            <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:20:51 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from The Armorer on 2008-10-09</title>
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                <![CDATA[<em>No offense John, sir. </em>

[checks for wallet].

Yeah,  sure, uh-huh.

;^ )]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:26:55 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Grimmy on 2008-10-09</title>
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                <![CDATA[BillT:<br />
<br />
Warrant Officer types are decent enough. Kinda like a hybrid between an officer and a real soldier.<br />
<br />
No offense John, sir.]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:14:20 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-10-09</title>
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                <![CDATA[<em>You've prolly even been to a couple -- remember one with a two-foot deep depression in the center and a huge poison ivy patch in the northeast corner?<br />
<br />
</em>Ooo!&nbsp; Ooo!&nbsp; That was me!&nbsp; I did that one!&nbsp; In collusion with the CSM!<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:44:36 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-10-09</title>
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                <![CDATA[And then I became a Warrant Officer-type (Retired), so I was even worse.<br />
<br />
I spent all my time figuring out ways to keep from flying resupply missions so I could give the nurses &quot;Orientation Flights&quot; to some remote, secluded clearing in the woods fifty miles from nowhere.<br />
<br />
But it usually didn't work because the Ossifer types invariably found every remote, secluded clearance fifty miles from nowhere and designated them all as weekend, post-forced-march bivouac sites for the troops. <br />
<br />
You've prolly even been to a couple -- remember one with a two-foot deep depression in the center and a huge poison ivy patch in the northeast corner?<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:32:03 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Grimmy on 2008-10-09</title>
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                <![CDATA[&quot;You've got us confused with the *Brit* army. &quot;<br />
<br />
My bad.<br />
<br />
In my own defense, I'll tell ya true. It's hard to tell the difference between ours and the Brits with all that hoity toity gentleman stuff y'all like to strut around.]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:23:35 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-10-09</title>
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                <![CDATA[Grimmy - no, absolutely not.&nbsp; We eat steak and/or prime rib&nbsp;while you enlisted scum got wormy ground horsemeat.&nbsp; We were knocking back brews, and schemed on how we were going to take credit for all the work you&nbsp;guys did, while denying you any alcohol in the field.<br />
<br />
You've got us confused with the *Brit* army.]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 07:06:46 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Grimmy on 2008-10-09</title>
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                <![CDATA[BillT:<br />
<br />
You're an officer type person? If so, I have a question for you.<br />
Is it true that officer type folk spend their working days sitting around, eating decrusted cucumber sandwiches, drinking tea and quoting poetry at each other?]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:12:05 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-10-09</title>
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                <![CDATA[The use of the word, &quot;Sir&quot;, was considered on the same level. <br />
<br />
When I was pushing troops at Ft. Dix, my Drill Sergeants would admonish any trainee who addresses them as &quot;sir&quot; with&nbsp; &quot;Don't 'sir' *me*, Trainee --&nbsp; I *work* for a living!&quot;<br />
<br />
If they said it within my hearing, I'd counter with &quot;Yeah, it's a tough job, keeping those stripes from disappearing, isn't it, Corporal?&quot;<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:09:31 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Grimmy on 2008-10-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[Grumpy:<br />
<br />
I knew quite a few gunnies that wouldn't hesitate to bust a Marine's chops, both literally and figuratively, if said Marine confused him for a lowly officer type with a misplaced &quot;sir&quot;.<br />
<br />
And as to the live food for chow. At least we'll know it's fresh.]]>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:26:58 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from HomefrontSix on 2008-10-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[Did someone say something about a 27&quot; zipper...? <br />
<br />
<br />
Bill ~&nbsp;Nice to know you're still in one piece...more or less. <br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:26:52 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Grumpy on 2008-10-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[My older Brother and I were both Air Force enlisted. Grimmy, I read the fourth comment, written by you, on the perceptions of a sharp salute being considered as a &quot;hostile act&quot;. The use of the word, &quot;Sir&quot;, was considered on the same level. When I first came home after discharge, my Brother came over to the family home. We met in the yard, we both had a 'game face' (joking). The first thing I say to him, &quot;Sir, great to see you.&quot; He said, &quot;What did you call me?&quot; I&nbsp;said, &quot;Sir, I'm just showing the respect you truly deserve.&quot;&nbsp;He replied, &quot;I'll have you know, I was an honorable member of the United States Air Force, I was enlisted. Don't ever call me, Sir.&quot; Over the years, we would flip the roles and joke about the issue for over 40 years.]]>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:51:43 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-10-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[Who are conspicuously absent.<br />
<br />
Is Tod Palin in town?<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:37:08 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-10-08</title>
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                I&apos;ll leave that to the Denizennes, zipper-boy.
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            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:21:50 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-10-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[<em>We only feast on the flesh of the living.</em><br />
<br />
Bite me.<br />
<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:16:00 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-10-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[Thanks, Neff. I spent quite a while, you know, pondering the best way to convey the sense of urgency while heightening the suspense and hinting at the possibility of impending disaster.<br />
<br />
*Nnnnnnnnot*.<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from Neffi on 2008-10-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[<em>Bailing. Rocket.<br />
<br />
I type *fast* when I hear &quot;pffffft -- vrooooooooooooooo&quot;...<br />
</em><br />
<br />
I particularly admire the punctuation, Chief...]]>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-10-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[Oh, we're *nice* around here if you're dead.<br />
<br />
We only feast on the flesh of the living.<br />
<br />
We're just that kinda people.]]>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:00:16 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-10-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[I type *fast* when I hear &quot;pffffft -- vrooooooooooooooo&quot;...<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from Neffi on 2008-10-08</title>
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                Musta been a sloooooow rocket, allowing for that message from the receiving end...
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            <title>Comment from Grimmy on 2008-10-08</title>
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                Good thing you didn&apos;t get blowed up. No telling what he&apos;d be saying about you if he thought you weren&apos;t around to square away the record.
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-10-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[Well excuuuuuuuse me all to Helen Gaghan.<br />
<br />
If I'd known you didn't trust me to stay intact, I'd a-set up a webcam inside the bunker.<br />
<br />
Sheesh.<br />]]>
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            <title>Comment from Grimmy on 2008-10-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[RetRsvMike has it down. Due to the history of the Corps, Marines do need to be fluent in both Army and Navy speek.<br />
<br />
And for Air Force, just remember that all ranks translate to dude and that any salute crisper than a causual wave is considered a hostile act, and all is fine.]]>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:37:31 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Cricket on 2008-10-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[Sticks finger into the wind...YEP.&nbsp; It's gittin' close to interservice snarkery time&nbsp;on behalf of our guys and gals in uniform.&nbsp; Nice to see things are warming up, even if is it a rocket that started it all..glad to know he made it back.]]>
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            <title>Comment from RetRsvMike on 2008-10-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[i always speak slowly and distinctly to Marines, using words of two syllables or less....<br />
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..and it isn't for the benefit of the Marine, it's merely to allow them time to translate for their compatriots in the remainder of the Naval Department.<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:28:43 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Grimmy on 2008-10-08</title>
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                <![CDATA[&quot;If there's a Marine involved, and his lips are moving, it's a sea story.&quot;<br />
<br />
Wrong.<br />
<br />
Marine sea stories all start with &quot;this is a no sh!tter!&quot; and their ... umm... relation to an actual event is measured as an inverse to how strident the claims to veracity become.<br />
<br />]]>
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