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  <title>Comments for Germans in Afghanistan</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2008-10-23T12:30:07Z</published>
    <updated>2008-10-23T17:02:10Z</updated>
    <title>Germans in Afghanistan</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[Theospark, Brit that he is, has a pretty good presence over in EuroLand - which scored him some good pics of German soldiers in Mazar-al-Sharif, the photos courtesy Falli263.&nbsp; There are several more than I shamelessly stole for this link-post.

The chain of command issues in Afghanistan must be making General McKiernan's head hurt (I know they're chapping his staff), and the whole theater suffers from being a) Afghanistan, and b) not the main effort of the US at the moment, and c) Not necessarily the main effort of NATO, given many of the national &quot;caveats&quot; at play - but we do have allies doing some fighting over there, and some dying, too.&nbsp; Within the last week two German soldiers were killed.

First up, a little moment of Gunner's Zen - a Panzer Haubitze 2000 sending a round downrange:




*UPDATE:&nbsp;Turns out we're looking at the Dutch in Afghanistan.&nbsp; H/t, Adger, in the comments.

And here's some German troops who may well be reliving some family history...&nbsp;Landsers hanging around wrecked Soviet armor...



Regardless - good hunting, gentlemen.]]></summary>
    <author>
      <name>The Armorer</name>
      <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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      <![CDATA[Theospark, Brit that he is, has a pretty good presence over in EuroLand - <a href="http://www.theospark.net/2008/10/german-troops-inmazar-al-sharif.html">which scored him some good pics of German soldiers in Mazar-al-Sharif, the photos courtesy Falli263</a>.&nbsp; There are several more than I shamelessly stole for this link-post.<br />
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The chain of command issues in Afghanistan must be making General McKiernan's head hurt (I know they're chapping his staff), and the whole theater suffers from being a) Afghanistan, and b) not the main effort of the US at the moment, and c) Not necessarily the main effort of NATO, given many of the national &quot;caveats&quot; at play - but we do have allies doing some fighting over there, and some dying, too.&nbsp; Within the last week two German soldiers were killed.<br />
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First up, a little moment of Gunner's Zen - a Panzer Haubitze 2000 sending a round downrange:<br />
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<img alt="Dutch Panzer Haubitze 2000 sends a round downrange near Uruzgan, Afghanistan." src="http://www.fototime.com/6593E91CE15C2A3/orig.jpg" /><br />
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*UPDATE:&nbsp;Turns out we're <a href="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ca_1182200488">looking at the Dutch in Afghanistan</a>.&nbsp; H/t, <a href="http://tapirherde.blogspot.com/">Adger</a>, in the comments.<br />
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And here's some German troops who may well be reliving some family history...&nbsp;Landsers hanging around wrecked Soviet armor...<br />
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<img alt="Some German troops who may well be reliving some family history... soldaten hanging around wrecked Soviet armor... this time near Mazar-i-Sharif, Afghanistan" src="http://www.fototime.com/F6622FA23D2B295/standard.jpg" /><br />
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Regardless - good hunting, gentlemen.]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from fdcol63 on 2008-10-23</title>
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        <![CDATA[With GPS and no real need to keep the gun on an aiming circle or collimator, do you really need spades anymore? Gawd, how I&nbsp;hated a muddy Graf!&nbsp; LOL<br />
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Everything's a hip shoot now. Fun, fun, fun! LOL]]>
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    <published>2008-10-23T20:17:05Z</published>
    <updated>2008-10-23T20:17:05Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Pogue on 2008-10-23</title>
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        <name>Pogue</name>
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        <![CDATA[Wow, those puppies such do rock back on the treads when they fire!&nbsp; Do they have spades like the 109's?&nbsp; Also, they don't mind fuzing up a few more projos at a time than we were allowed to. &nbsp; :p. <br />]]>
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    <published>2008-10-23T20:11:52Z</published>
    <updated>2008-10-23T20:11:52Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9895-comment:79530</id>
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    <title>Comment from V5 on 2008-10-23</title>
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        <name>V5</name>
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        <![CDATA[&nbsp;I'd say, after looking at both, that you're probably right.]]>
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    <published>2008-10-23T16:58:49Z</published>
    <updated>2008-10-23T16:58:49Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-10-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[Adger is right - <a href="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ca_1182200488" rel="nofollow">I found a video that is most likely this howitzer firing from this position</a>.&nbsp; If the original video was of sufficient quality, this might even be a still from it.]]>
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    <published>2008-10-23T16:54:16Z</published>
    <updated>2008-10-23T16:54:16Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-10-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[The Dutch eh?&nbsp; So, you're suggesting that Theo is unreliable?&nbsp; That blaggard!&nbsp; Now I'll have to go look.<br />
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I admit I've not been following the Germans that closely.&nbsp; Perhaps, Herr Adger, you could provide content...?]]>
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    <published>2008-10-23T16:46:20Z</published>
    <updated>2008-10-23T16:46:20Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Adger on 2008-10-23</title>
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        <name>Adger</name>
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        <![CDATA[If I'm not perfectly wrong the PzH2000 pictured above belongs to the Koninklijke Landmacht. We (&quot;<em>t3h Germanz</em>&quot;) haven't deployed any heavy artillery to the 'stans til now.<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-10-23T16:32:32Z</published>
    <updated>2008-10-23T16:32:32Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from V5 on 2008-10-23</title>
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        <![CDATA[&nbsp;Looks like some German regular-troops are getting more real world &quot;gun time&quot; than their German Special Forces counter parts.<br />
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Paul]]>
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    <published>2008-10-23T16:00:54Z</published>
    <updated>2008-10-23T16:00:54Z</updated>
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