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A couple of interesting emails today

This one in response to a conversation already extant, which OPSEC forbids reprinting.  Regards the offspring of a long-time reader.
RE: And none of the good stuff bloggable.

Nope, but what I can pick off of the news wires is fair game, and you'll get anything we hear that can be published.

The little sh*t-a$$ snookered his mother Monday evening when he talked to her. He was not headed for [OPSEC], but rather to DC. It took him two days of finagling, but he finally got a visa for........[Yet another OPSEC'd destination].

I don't even want to think about the reason for needing *that* visa.........

Last night he was on the way to Dulles to turn in the rental car and try to get a flight to [OPSEC].

What an amazing adventure for a kid from [OPSEC - fill in the blank rural setting].
To which I responded, perhaps a touch unfairly -

That's because the days of the Oh So Social,  or OSS, are long past. Kids from the playing fields of Exeter Academy are buying bad mortgage paper, not double-tapping terrs in dark alleys, after using sophisticated network analysis tools they developed to find out which alley to double-tap them in.

Update: The response to my response was: 

True.....but then the Academy kids were raised mostly by those of the 60's with draft deferments for their educational pursuits.....no matter how long it took. You know, the ones with a "different agenda" than the rest of us.

If there is a Legacy to be left by Viet Nam Veterans, I hope we are remembered as the scrufty bunch that raised this amazing generation of Patriots........That's good enough for me.

Well, that would be good enough for me, too, now that you mention it.  But I'd have to say that some of the kids of the 60's Flower Children are fighting just as hard.

Then there was this one, from a fella angling to be a Buddy of the Armorer!
While at Miller Park in Bloomington, Illinois last week, I spotted an old tank like piece of armor. Took a picture and was wondering if you would like to take a look?? I am a regular reader who never has time for commenting but love the info and the great old iron pics. There were two more artillery pieces there also. Would you look at those also??
First up - the Armorer is *always* up for pictures of artillery.  Or armor.  Or small arms.  Or ordnance.  Or bunkers.  Or armored cars.  Or helmets.  Or spears.  Or swords. You get the idea.  Here's one of the pics.  I've already id'd it for Jim, but I'll let you guys have fun with it too.  This one will be easy for the grognards.

C'mon, this is an easy one.

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What an un-armourer colour.  Camo for icebergs?  Please tell me this isn't the secret Swiss skiing mini tank.  Wooshing down slopes on that thing at the front (back?) to er crush the enemy.
 
Argent - I'm thinking of it as "Swimming Pool Blue"

Who knows, mebbe that's what it is - swimming pool paint they had left over.  I'll say this for them - their tank and two cannon are in better shape than a lot of stuff like this left to rot in the open.
 
My first guess would be a Renault FT-17/18
 
An armored snow machine - the original Iron Dog!

 
It must be an armored Zamboni.
 
argghhh! that color!!

Pershing weeps.
 
I can tell it's a Renault (after editing I look up and see John's already tagged it as the FT-17 {g}), and my first reaction was that doohickey was some sort of barbed wire cutter, but it's on the back end of the tank. Is it perhaps some sort of brake for when the tank goes up a steep incline? I know the early designers worried about crossing trenches and other obstacles.

 
I think the skid plate on the arse end is to keep it from fliping over backwards on an incline. They used to panic about stuff like that, until they figured out that tankers were replacable.
 
..it was actually only until they figured out how to get the grunts to waddle along behind us when going "over the top"... 

rollover backwards and a bunch of crunchies make for a soft landing.
 
Color shading of the tank?  Poilu Blue perhaps?  Mirrors the poor grognards uniform colors, post blue tunic and bright red shoot-me-with-a-machinegun trousers and kepi.
 
I think it was called an unditching plate or the like, needed one on that Renault they imported in the 70's
 

Actually this is probably not an FT 17. Probably a "six ton special tractor" which was a cover name for the American copy of the FT 17 modified to accept the Marlin MG. Note the odd shield on the face of the turret.

 

 
The doohickey is the tail which extends the length of the vehicle, thus extending the width of  trench it can cross. 
 
Actually since this was taken in the US, that this may be a US M1917 tank.  More here
http://www.landships.freeservers.com/FT17_M1917.htm

Painted up in them funny WWI French colours does make it look odd.

 
Look at that he even found a diagram.  I must remind myself if it looks weird and has no function, it's probably French.
 
Dad, I think you're right. Just thinkin', I think that that's mostly what we had for tanks in the Phillipines in 1942. Imagine how hot it was in those things, there and then! Ow!
 
Not meaning to be disrespectful to our great *friend and ally, France, or anything but...

The shape and placement of that gizmo on the rear end might be intended as a sort of "cattle guard" to shove folk out of the way as it's following it's path of least probable hostile contact.

*friend and ally - someone who has occasional use for us in the expending of blood and treasure way, but otherwise behaves as a passive aggressive pansy enemy wannabe.
 
This post has demonstrated the need for another post, clearly.

One thing I'll always do, Grimmy - is defend the French soldier.  He may have had crappy generals and worse politicians, but aside from some badly prepared units in May 1940, the courage of the individual French soldier had been amply demonstrated time and again.

Especially in WWI.

Like I said, you can bash the leadership all you want.  But I'll stand up for the poilu.
 
What John said.

And what Napoleon said:  "There are no bad regiments; only bad colonels."
 
What Blake said.