Comments for Palin and the Trooper

Palin and the Trooper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:59:14 -0600

So, now that they couldn't pull off the "not Palin's baby", "daughter is immoral, unwed mother", 'Palin had an affair, we think...at least, according to her ex-brother-in-law who tasered his 10 year old nephew, threatened the grandfather and to 'drag' Palin down, several times while posturing with his service revolver", "no experience" meme, we're back to "troopergate". Apparently their are emails from Governor Palin asking what had happened with Wooten and the complaint against him since he got a bare five day suspension. Allegedly she fired the the head of the security, Monegan. Wooten, the apparently unrepentent bogeyman trooper, was never fired. Not even now and he continues to sow rumors and lies in the background. I'll tell you honestly, if some a$$h*le threatened any member of my family and tasered my nephew, they'd have more than some emails and a "he said/she said" accusation about Monegan being fired over the issue (can you say "sour grapes"). They'd have me on phone calls, on messages, on video and in person riding somebody's a$$. I would not just threaten, I would promise that their jobs would be gone if something happened to my family because they refused to act. End of story. Next question?

Comment from BillT on 2008-09-05

Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:35:40 -0600

Never hung around with Little Bird pilots, eh?

Comment from HomefrontSix on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:42:54 -0600

Delta is Delta and 160th is 160th...at least in my lexicon. Occasionally I'll hear them referred to as Task Force but only by COWs...

Comment from BillT on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:21:49 -0600

And here I thought they weren't the droids we were looking for.

Well, actually, I misspoke. Technically, anyway. The Army denied *Delta Force* existed -- then hurriedly redesignated the Deltas as "the Task Force." Then scrambled to deny "the Task Force" existed, and re-named it TF160.

Then when *that* moniker got too much popular play, TF160 "disappeared" into the regimental system and re-appeared as 1-160th SOAR.

And the ultimate giggle is, everybody still calls them the Deltas...

Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:52:39 -0600

You're right, John. It had to do with a *really* good bowl of chili...

Comment from J.M. Heinrichs on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:10:42 -0600

"right good Bunker Buster." Careful, next he'll explain how he inspired the Concrete Bomb.

Cheers

Comment from HomefrontSix on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:49:07 -0600

There may not be enough caliber to make you a projectile, John, but you might be a right good Bunker Buster...

TF exists...? And here I thought they weren't the droids we were looking for.

Comment from BillT on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:46:24 -0600

Hmmpf. Darned with faint praise...

Comment from FbL on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:17:30 -0600

And amusing, too... ;)

Comment from BillT on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:39:55 -0600

As this thread drifts more rapidly down that meander...

Plays to our strong suits, though...

Comment from BillT on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:36:26 -0600

Hah. While you were playing with the *new* stuff, we were still waiting for the hand-me-downs.

Which was nice, because I was flying the OH-6A (Series II and III) fifteen years after the Army denied they were still in the inventory. And *five* years after the TF started flying them -- but then, the Army was still denying the TF existed back then, too.

Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:19:22 -0600

As this thread drifts more rapidly down that meander...

Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:15:12 -0600

Heh. I'm not that old Bill. It was the M110A1 for my era...

Comment from BillT on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:10:52 -0600

I'm surprised you didn't trot out the old chestnut about how much fun you can have with the firing procedure for the M110.

Comment from Katherine Optima Maximae on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:57:12 -0600

*crickets*. Hydraulic Rammer. *crickets*

Yeah...I think it's dead as a door nail...or biden's next speech.

Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:39:48 -0600

And, I think we prolly just killed *this* thread.

Comment from The Armorer on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:37:37 -0600

Ooo. That *was* bad, wasn't it?

Comment from Katherine Optima Maximae on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:32:24 -0600

I am soooooo biting my tongue

Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:28:38 -0600

We haven't built a gun of sufficient caliber for me to be a projectile from it. Mons Meg, or Tsar Pushka, mebbe. With the hydraulic rammer, Karl.

Comment from RetRsvMike on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:16:36 -0600

oh great. POTUS sez "Fire Donovan" and i see people pulling lanyards....

(that'll teach them to be more specific)

Comment from BillT on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:07:24 -0600

Bill, I didn't use sarcasm tags because I thought it was obvious.

Heh -- we're both being entirely too nuanced, here...

Comment from The Armorer on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:05:01 -0600

Heh. IIRC, if a General wanted to fire me, he had a set of regulations he had to go through in order to get the Secretary of the Army to recommend to the President that my commission be revoked. The President, waking up grumpy (in this case, a mood, not our commenter) from bad chile the night before, could just pick up the phone, call the Secretary and say, "Fire Donovan" and I would have to start hitting Monster.

Comment from BillT on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:56:30 -0600

And since you're not the governor of a state using your executive authority to fire someone, that would be okay.

The governor has discretionary powers over those personnel who "serve at the pleasure of the Governor." It's right in the job description, xanth, and every incoming governor of every State and Commonwealth in the Union exercises that power at one time or another -- and some even do it merely because the officeholder is of the wrong political party.

US Attorneys also "serve at the pleasure of" the POTUS, and can be terminated "just because."

Which was just fine with the Dems when WJ Clinton did wholesale firings of said US Attorneys, but which elicited squeals of outrage from those same Dems when GW Bush did so -- and on a smaller scale, to boot.

Comment from Wollf on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:20:54 -0600

Ummm...says "Kat"...right there in the by line.....reading glasses, Wollf, reading glasses.

After hours and a punch in the snoot is still the recipe for a Brute, though.

Comment from KCSteve on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:56:22 -0600

People seem to forget:

1) She got annoyed at the corrupt guys running the Ethics Committee and got them fired.
2) She beat the entrenched encumbent to win as Mayor - and got re-elected.
3) She beat the entrenched encumbent to win the Primary for Governor, and the former entrenched encumbent in the General.

There had to be more digging going on during those campaigns (especially the last one) then during the Gold Rush. If there was anything to find, it would have come up long ago.

Comment from Katherine Optima Maximae on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:48:45 -0600

Well, wolf, you'd be "less civilized" than "John" because actually "Kat" wrote the post. And, so I don't get accused of "sock puppetry", that would be "me".

Well, I understand now that he actually approached her daughter at a school game and made some pretty nasty remarks. In which case, I might have had to reconsider.

however, we are talking about a state trooper with a gun and the blue line. Believe me, it exists (my dad is retired police officer). This is what you do when you don't want thirty cops to arrest you and have you "resisting arrest" all the way to jail.

Comment from Wollf on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:36:26 -0600

"We don't need "The One". We need "One Of Us!".....well said. Regarding the original post, mebbe I'm just not as civilised as John.

Trooper tases my Nephew, threatens Grampa, threatens Wifey...........Trooper tastes fist.

Repeatedly.

Comment from Katherine Optima Maximae on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:36:20 -0600

So far, no proof of being fired over the episode. As far as I read, Monegan had the bad fortune to be a bad administrator. the governor had the misfortune of having to deal with the bad administrator and the jacked up trooper at the same time.

I'm thinking that Palin isn't too worried about it by her performance last night.

Comment from fdcol63 on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:33:38 -0600

Biden bloviating about his IQ:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8b5_1219507341

Comment from fdcol63 on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:29:12 -0600

Bill, I didn't use sarcasm tags because I thought it was obvious. LOL

Comment from Xanthippas on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:26:46 -0600

I'll tell you honestly, if some a$$h*le threatened any member of my family and tasered my nephew, they'd have more than some emails and a "he said/she said" accusation about Monegan being fired over the issue (can you say "sour grapes"). They'd have me on phone calls, on messages, on video and in person riding somebody's a$$. I would not just threaten, I would promise that their jobs would be gone if something happened to my family because they refused to act.

And since you're not the governor of a state using your executive authority to fire someone, that would be okay.

Comment from BillT on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:24:50 -0600

Biden's IQ is higher than everyone else's?

Wow.

I'll be even more impressed if he ever demonstrates it.

Like, "Woww"...

Comment from fdcol63 on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:12:36 -0600

I can't wait for the first Palin-Biden debate.

Biden will drone on and on and on, pleased at the sound of his own voice and his attempts at humor, while bloviating and trying to impress everyone with his experience and his IQ - which of course is much higher than everyone else's, meandering aimlessly until he arrives at the central point of his statement, which was ..... what?

In contrast to Palin, who'll be disarmingly self-deprecating and sweet, concise and to the point, carefully taking aim and killing the moose - or jackass, in this case - with one quick shot.

Comment from Katherine Optima Maximae on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:04:53 -0600

wow. I was kind of hoping that canales was posing bad sarcasm, but, I'm guessing not.

My take from last night? The left should be very, very afraid.

We've got substance and style in one package. they've got a bad imitation of a snake oil salesmen who sales cow piss in a bottle and claims it will help your hair grow back.

We've got someone who has actually shaken hands and made trade agreements with a minister from Russia, Japan, China and many more places. they've got some dude who drank latte once while contemplating a map of Europe.

Comment from The Armorer on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:49:12 -0600

Hey, at least he seems to have left a legitimate email. That said - dude - doesn't your side have *anything* better and more adult than this approach? Democrats have clearly demonstrated for all to see this week that being a woman, and therefore blessed by the protections of feminism and Correct Thinking, is defined not by having ovaries, but, rather, by having Democrat ovaries. If you fail that test, they're not ovaries, they're merely undescended testicles, and you are to be dismissed with the most trite (and/or vile) expressions of playground pottymouth and sophmoric sexual crudities. Apparently a person with interior plumbing but "undescended testicles" can be subject to all the hate and abuse that can be tossed their way, and none may dare call it misogyny.

Comment from fdcol63 on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:42:43 -0600

It will be hard for McCain to top Palin's speech, but I hope he says something like this at some point:

"Senator Obama and the Democrats claim that if you elect me as your president, I'll just bring you 4 more years of President Bush's administration. After 9/11, President Bush had some tough choices to make. All of his critics and the pundits were certain Al Qaeda and Islamic terrorists would hit us again soon, and that it was just a matter of time before we suffered even more serious attacks here on US soil - perhaps even with WMDs obtained from state sponsors like Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea, and Libya."

"But President Bush chose to reject the "law enforcement" approach to terrorism - the same approach, by the way, that Senator Obama would take us back to - and chose to go on the offense, to take the fight to THEM. Radical Islam had declared war on us - not the other way around - and President Bush decided that if we must fight that war, let's fight it in on THEIR turf and in THEIR streets, not ours."

"By doing so, President Bush has ensured that we've enjoyed almost 7 full years since 9/11 without suffering another terrorist attack on American soil. Do I plan to repeat that success, and bring you more of that kind of peace and security? You're damn right I do."

"And so should they".

Comment from fdcol63 on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:12:44 -0600

The Left is unable to knock Palin on substance, so they flail away at superficialities.

Comment from AW1 Tim on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 06:24:20 -0600

I see... so, apparently. the Pro-woman leftists are only pro-woman if she's a member of THEIR political bubble?

What does it say about the legions of spittle-flecking, vindictive hurling leftards that , when a major political party actually, you know, PICKS a woman (and a woman with some major real-life experience and serious street creds) that those same buffoons on the left go all adolescent melt down?

   The leftists had their chance to run a woman of some means and stature, but when time came to put up or shut up, they suddenly felt the need to vote for style over substance. That, my friends certainly sums up the left these days. Vacuous, shallow, narcisistic and unfit to lead.

   Instead of putting their votes where their collective mouths are, they went for the even more shallow, self-deifying thug from the Chicago Political machine, thereby removing all doubt about what the real aganda is. It isn't doing what is best for America, it isn't putting country above self, it is seizing power, controlling the population. and redistributing wealth amongst themselves. The leftists are all about victimhood and control through social division.

   It makes me incredibly sad to think of what the real JFK might think of his party today. JFK said "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country".

   Compare that with what the Obamessiah says.

     Sarah Palin is a brilliant selection for the Vice Presidency. She has the skill sets and knowleadge for the job. More than anything else, she is one of us.

     We don't need "The One". We need "One Of Us!"

     Respects,

Comment from Jon The Mechanic on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 05:53:01 -0600

canales,

The ONLY booty show I have seen over the past week was that of the left wingnuts repeatedly putting their heads into that fabled fouth point of contact as they attempt to smear a woman who dares accept a place on the national scene against the Obama Krishna and his trusty sidekick, foot in mouth Joe.

Comment from BillT on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:35:23 -0600

Hmmm. So far, if looks like our random leggy women are more qualified for national office than the Left's hand-picked leggy men...

Comment from FbL on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:37:40 -0600

Heh. Speaking of editing...

John, I have a very good idea for editing that first comment above... Something and fear and gender, maybe... :D

Comment from FbL on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:36:29 -0600

Ah, i see that great liberal feminism is on parade...

[self-editing in order to remain within The Rulz.]

Comment from canales on 2008-09-04

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:21:58 -0600

this is all just a booty show. bring some random leggy woman with loose kids out, show her around, and win the votes of millions of men who keep repuglican thugs in power. palin isn't a vice president, she's a repuglican style centerfold.