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H&I Fires* 15 SEP 2008

By Denizens on September 15, 2008 | | Comments (14)
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A note from Galrahn:

Before McCain picked Palin, you had a discussion on your blog about which VP McCain should pick.

I left a comment on your blog that I hope he picks Palin, because if he does NY will be in play.

Well...
Is New York in play?  As I noted in my response to Galrahn - it's a long way to November.

Moving along - one good link deserves another.  Jules Crittenden links to Kat's post below, and expands on the theme.  -the Armorer

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Another sign of panic - Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri on ABC's "This Week" show: "this is a ticket that wants to put women in prison for having an abortion after they have been raped."

Let's put that in better context:

MCCASKILL: Let me say, I think Sarah Palin has an incredibly winning personality. She’s a very skilled politician. And I understand a post-convention bump. And she’s a great role model for working women. I mean, I’m talking as a woman who took my breast pump to work for all three of my children. So that’s terrific.

MCCASKILL: But women of America are going to kick the tires the next 55 days, George, and they’re going to going to find out that this is a ticket that wants to put women in prison for having an abortion after they have been raped.
The poo, it be a'flingin!    Everybody better be careful - 'cuz this is going to be the electorate's reaction...


-the Armorer

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In re: Panic... - but wait!  There's more!  From Robert Stone, writing in this week's NYT Book Review:

As for the 2008 presidential election, Stone had this to say: “If, in this campaign, illusion triumphs over what we must believe is reality, we will fail as a nation. There is, after all, a point of no return. If McCain wins, history is here big time, scythe, sackcloth and all four horsemen.” 
Kewl - make for some good movies, mebbe. -the Armorer

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*A term of art from the artillery. Harassment and Interdiction Fires. Back in the day, when you could just kill people and break things without a note from a lawyer, they were pre-planned, but to the enemy, random, fires at known gathering points, road junctions, Main Supply Routes, assembly areas, etc - to keep the bad guy nervous that the world around him might start exploding at any minute. Not really relevant to today's operating environment, right? But, it *is. The UAVs we fly over Afghanistan and Pakistan looking for targets of opportunity are a form of H&I fires, if you really want to parse it finely. We just have better sensors and fire control now. Of course, now I have to call them UAS's, because someone got a Legion of Merit for the name change.Anyway, I call the post H&I Fires because it's random things posted by me and people I've given posting privileges to that particular topic. Another term of art that might be appropriate is Free Fire Zone.

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By Katherine Optima Maximae on September 15, 2008 12:46 PM
Hell's comin' and McCain's comin' with it.  Sarah will have the little devils in order right quickly.
 
By 11B40 on September 15, 2008 12:49 PM
Greetings:

Isn't Senator McCaskill one of those feminist icons who took over her
husband's seat?

Oh, the struggles!
 
By Katherine Optima Maximae on September 15, 2008 12:50 PM
Oh, one other thing.  Remember last election, the big "scare" was that Bush was going to re-instute the draft?  That worked out well, didn't it.

I think McCaskill's claims are about par for that, too.  Probably have the same effect.  People will see the left as a little crazy.  Again. 
 
By John of Argghhh! on September 15, 2008 12:54 PM

Sergeant Crunchy - I think you're confusing Senator Carnahan, who subbed for her husband who died during the campaign.  She was in turn was replaced by Senator Jim Talent, who was replaced by Senator McCaskill, and former Senator Talent is trying to get his job back this year...

 
By Oldloadr on September 15, 2008 1:03 PM
Actually, Sarah Palin has said that she wants to see Roe v. Wade overturned and the decision left to the several states, just as the death penalty is left to the several states. Therefore, if California, New York, PR of Vermont, et al want to continue the holocaust of the innocents, they can. States like South Carolina, Kentucky, Indiana et al will be free to protect innocent life (and take the life of the wicked at the same time). I know that many on the right want a Right to Life amendment to the US Constitution. I think that would be a mistake of the slippery slope variety and allow activist federal judges to legislate from the bench concerning the death penalty. I'm just a simple old loader, which means I have spent most of my adult life playing with toys that break things and kill people. In that time, I have come to believe an innocent baby should have a chance to simply be born and I believe that evil men and women should have an expedited meeting with the ultimate Judge.
 
By Katherine Optima Maximae on September 15, 2008 1:06 PM
Isn't Senator McCaskill one of those feminist icons who took over her
husband's seat?

No.  she duked it out fair and square, but only after she lost to Matt Blunt for Governor.  I don't think she forgave the Republicans for painting her as "just" the treasurer.
 
By Oldloadr on September 15, 2008 1:16 PM
In the interest of full disclosure:  I was adopted at birth out of a Catholic Orphanage in Louisville, KY that was connected to a Home for unwed mothers.  I don't know if that, or my years of listening to evangelical sermons or my reading of the bible on my own formed my beliefs, but I still have my beliefs so there it is.
 
By Grumpy on September 15, 2008 1:25 PM
 John, I believe the "Chimp" has already seen the future campaigns on BOTH sides and has given the most accurate assessment. Many people will look, but not ask the very serious questions. 

PLEASE, be careful of what you wish for, you just may get it.

Grumpy

 
By Oldloadr on September 15, 2008 1:47 PM
Grumpy-- In every presidential election cycle, many people talk about how bad the mud-slinging is getting. I assure you, it’s not getting that way, it has always been that was (at least since 1828). That was the year that Andrew Jackson ran the second time for president (and won). Now, there were a lot of issues for the new republic by 1828: Indian issues, slavery (and the expansion thereof), but the most important issue to the Whig party was the date of Rachel Jackson’s divorce from her first husband. So, that’s the way it’s always been. As I heard Governor Gerry “Moon beam” Brown once say in an interview (during Ross Perot’s on-again-off again run), “US Presidential politics is a full contact sport… don’t go in the kitchen, if you can’t take the heat…”
 
By John of Argghhh! on September 15, 2008 1:53 PM

Heh.  My message was directed at both players.

Loadr - at least back then if you were illiterate you could avoid it...  what with television, there's no escaping it!

Except that most people stayed tuned out and are only now tuning in - and that hasn't swung well, thus far, for the Left.

 
By Yu-Ain Gonnano on September 15, 2008 2:00 PM
As for the 2008 presidential election, Stone had this to say: “If, in this campaign, illusion triumphs over what we must believe is reality, we will fail as a nation. - Robert Stone

Hmmm.  Notice he didn't say "over what is reality", but "what we must believe is reality".  Appearently, Mr. Stone beleives that only by believing what isn't true, may we succeed as a nation.  So much for the "Reality-Based Community".
 
By Oldloadr on September 15, 2008 2:10 PM
Thre you go, John, that's a good thing, if the left is off-balance. 
 
By RetRsvMike on September 15, 2008 2:51 PM
NY is positively in play....

Freshman John Hall (D-Orleans (he was the guitar player)) is being challenged by an Iraq Marine Vet....    this one is going to be fun to watch.
 
By docweasel on September 16, 2008 1:25 AM
Trackback for « It’s Over, It’s O O O O ver, It’s Obamover « docweaselblog said:
[...] As we've been chronicling, Obama continues to lose ground in "safe" blue states: never mind the battle ground states he hopes to make up where Kerry and Gore lost, if the Democrat ticket can't hold the blue states, all bets are off and we're talking McCain Landslide of epic proportions. Our early posts on the matter back in May now seem eerily prescient: the docweaselblog team should play the lottery this week. [...]