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            <title>Okay, back to that &quot;Bright, shiny&quot; object that generated so much commentary.</title>
            <description><![CDATA[If you need to refresh yourself - click here.

That was fun.&nbsp; You guys would be *soooo* easy to interrogate.&nbsp; Just let the silence linger, questions unanswered, and you guys spill your guts.]]></description>
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            <title>Comment from Blake Kirk on 2008-08-30</title>
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                <![CDATA[Murphy's Law of War #&nbsp;34:&nbsp;&nbsp; Antennas attract projectiles.<br />
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Corollary the First:&nbsp; The larger or more numerous the antennas, the larger and more numerous will be the projectiles they attract.<br />
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Corollary the Second:&nbsp; Do not walk next to the poor schmuck who is humping the radio.<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:01:34 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-08-29</title>
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                <![CDATA[Yeah, I always felt inconspicuous on a battlefield where I was in&nbsp;the only vehicle with 4 antennae...]]>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:27:44 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Hunter on 2008-08-29</title>
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                The Engineers used the M48 chassis for some of the AVLB (Armored Vehicle Launched Bridge)systems. A naked chassis, without a turret, and two hatches side by side behind the driver&apos;s hatch.
When used that way, the only armament on board was a couple of grease guns (M3)or maybe an M16/M203 combo.
We were still fielding the M48 AVLB and the M60 AVLB at the same time as late as 1987-88, in Germany.
As always, on the battlefield, stay away from the strange stuff, for it shall attract all the wrong kind of attention.


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            <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:45:12 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Cannoneer No. 4 on 2008-08-29</title>
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                <![CDATA[They were fielding M60 and M60A1 &nbsp;MBT's in Germany while making do with M48's in Vietnam.&nbsp; Gas-burners were LOUD!!&nbsp; In the late '70's&nbsp;the tanks were diesel but the M88 recovery vehicles were still gas.&nbsp; A feller could get his eybrows singed off trying to hook up a tow bar.&nbsp; We weren't as fanatical about hearing conservation as we should have been, either.&nbsp; <br />
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Blake touched on it, but I want to point out that the M85 MG was a totally different gun from the M2HB and linked ammo for one was not usable for the other.&nbsp; Same round, different link.&nbsp; The M85 carried its ammo in a coil around and inside the cupola and when your storage bin was empty you had to stop and replenish from your banana boxes on the turret floor.&nbsp; I have pulled three or four charging handles clean off.&nbsp; They were just steel cable with a plastic handle.&nbsp; The M85 could be fired buttoned up, and it had an optic sight reticule, which if you could figure out would put on you target in 5 rounds.<br />
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            <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:27:29 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from The Armorer on 2008-08-28</title>
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                I hate it when you&apos;re right, John.
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            <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:06:22 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from J.M. Heinrichs on 2008-08-28</title>
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                <![CDATA[&nbsp;'Coincidence' rangefinder, not 'stereoscopic' ... the Leopard 1 had a stereoscopic rangefinder which was more accurate but required much practice, and stereo vision.<br />
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Cheers]]>
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            <title>Comment from RetRsvMike on 2008-08-28</title>
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                <![CDATA[i'm not so sure that's the name of place, so much as it was probably a sign put up by the poor dumb sappers in an attempt to convey information regarding the fordability...<br />
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&quot;Can When Lo&quot;<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:27:15 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from Blake Kirk on 2008-08-28</title>
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                <![CDATA[I've seen the &quot;fire-control-computer&quot; (which is actually a mechanical integrator,)&nbsp;on board the USS <em>Alabama</em> in Mobile.&nbsp; It's about the size of four washing machines jammed together.&nbsp; <br />
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As long as you have the time to work the bugs out in advance, there's no reason why one cannot achieve reasonable first-round accuracy with a mechanical system.&nbsp; Especially if one assumes from the outset, as the Navy does, that they will observe and adjust as required to put effective fire on the target.&nbsp; The big advantage that the US&nbsp;had in WW2 was that they (the battleships, at least,)&nbsp;had radars fitted to the main battery directors that could visualize the fall of the rounds in relation to the target.&nbsp; It made a big difference when <em>Washington</em> and <em>South Dakota </em>were engaging&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Kirishima</em> and her escorts off Savo Island in November of 1942.]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:19:46 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-08-28</title>
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                <![CDATA[Heh.&nbsp; &quot;Welcome Home, Bill.&quot;]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:57:40 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-08-28</title>
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                <![CDATA[Yeah, but *we* had to fact-check the caption for ya, didn't we?<br />
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Can Lo. <br />
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Hah. And again, hah.<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:08:11 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from RetRsvMike on 2008-08-28</title>
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                <![CDATA[two and a half turns on the knob gets ya to 1200 meters for battlesight....<br />
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each one (on the M60A1) was just a wee bit different in the turn count, so you had to spend some time on the boresight line getting your fine motor skills tuned into each particular one if you ever had to jump turrets (ick! going down range to qual in somebody ELSE's turret!)...<br />
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ah, me heart goes pitter pat when ya durka durka me like that!<br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:59:14 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-08-28</title>
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                <![CDATA[Heh.&nbsp; I was going to spare everybody the details of the Rodgers, seeing as how I'd stunned them with with the M48.<br />
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Some of our readers have a low tolerance for what they call &quot;durka-durka&quot; talk...]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:48:32 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Comment from XBradTC on 2008-08-28</title>
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                <![CDATA[I'm sure you've read Donn Starry's &quot;Armor in Vietnam&quot; and suspect that was your reference for some of this. <br />
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Couple of quick notes, the reason why the fire control computer was so much smaller than the John Rodgers was because it solved only one variable, range, while the computer for the destroyer solved for range, range rate, bearing rate (ie, leading the target) altitude (for anti-aircraft fire), coriolis effect and a bunch of other variables. <br />]]>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:06 -0600</pubDate>
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