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    <published>2008-08-27T04:14:37Z</published>
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    <title>H&amp;I Fires* 26 AUG 2008</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That's only polite.

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Yanno, there is something worse than Senator Obama ascending to the right hand of G-d, making it to the White House as&nbsp;a four-year occupant of the Oval Office.

That is Senator Obama being&nbsp;murdered by an a$$hat of any stripe or political persuasion.&nbsp; 

First off, just because.

Secondly - you want to watch the Federal government actually *become* what its detractors fear it to already be in terms of a police state?&nbsp;Just let some idiot with a mis-wired brain attempt, much less succeed, in killing the Senator, or his wife, or his running mate.

The ballot box is the place to kill bad ideas in our polity.&nbsp; No where else, as Jay notes over at Stop the ACLU, 

Or, as Carol Liebau puts it:

Obviously, all of us can disagree with every single wrongheaded and misguided idea emanating from the Denver convention center -- but as Americans, let's pray for the safety of Barack Obama, his family, and all those in attendance at the convention.

Let's beat Barack fair and square, and then be able to watch him lead a long and healthy life, together with his family.
The same thing applies, of course, to the other side of the coin, Senator McCain's campaign.&nbsp; And for those who drip the vitriol and hatred (vice well-aimed political snark)&nbsp;at either candidate - such as the truther a$$hat seen here molesting Michelle Malkin (though the breathless reportage at Founding Bloggers is overdone to my taste)- remember this - like it or not, think it's stupid or not, you are helping fertilize the field where the a$$hats grow.&nbsp; -the Armorer

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And on the topics of freedom, unity and good citizenship...&nbsp; The country is gearing up for the annual nationwide Freedom Walk (September 7) in commemoration of the victims of 9-11 and the first responders and service members who help keep us safe.&nbsp; This is an effort of America Supports You, the DoD&nbsp;clearinghouse for military support organizations and those they assist. - FbL

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Note the little thingy (yes, that's a technical term)&nbsp;over there in the sidebar, regarding the Freedom Walk.&nbsp; -the Armorer

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Now we see the new Army Class &quot;A&quot; uniform - where it becomes clear that the beret was maroon&nbsp;(which I figured because of the bloused boots) and the second &quot;liver badge&quot; on the soldier's right-hand pocket (the badge with the patch of the 101st Airborne Divison) is how they're going to handle combat patches.&nbsp; Heh.&nbsp; Me still no likey.&nbsp; But, I don't have to go buy one, either.&nbsp; Good thing, too.&nbsp; Omar the Tent Maker charges extra for Big and Tall.&nbsp; Especially Big.&nbsp; -the Armorer

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Bob Owens weighs in on our meth-using sniper wannabes over at Confederate Yankee:

The Left's Obama Assassination Fantasy
There are a lot of people who have hopes of Barack Obama being the target of an assassination attempt during the Democratic National Convention this week in Denver, and not all of them are his enemies. The arrest of a four drug users with stolen weapons and a single outlandish assassination claim has made that all too clear. 

Local news reporters see the possibility of a career-enhancing national story. National news reporters in mass market liberal enclaves see an opportunity to once again push a meme they've been hammering at for over a year, of a racist American heartland. This meme, of Americans as violent backwards yokels, is a meme that smug Europeans dearly love as it helps them maintain the delusion of continental sophistication in the face of their own cultural decline.

Of course, none of this would be possible without the unhinged few in a nation of 300 million that would like to see Obama dead, including thus far a halfwit bail-bondsman wannabe, a Charlotte, NC man suffering the lingering effects of a brain injury, and now a quartet of meth-addled idiots with rumored ties to white supremacists and outlaw bikers.

As you may well imagine, bloggers pounced on the story as the local news did, taking shreds of information and trying to determine just how serious of a threat Barack Obama faced.

As it turns out, not much at all:
To see the &quot;not much at all&quot; from Bob's perspective, click here.&nbsp; -the Armorer

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      <![CDATA[<em>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That's only polite.</em><br /><br />********************************<br /><br />Yanno, there is something worse than Senator Obama <strike>ascending to the right hand of G-d,</strike> making it to the White House as&nbsp;a four-year occupant of the Oval Office.<br /><br /><a href="http://cbs4denver.com/investigates/assisination.plot.obama.2.802827.html">That is Senator Obama being&nbsp;murdered by an a$$hat of any stripe or political persuasion</a>.&nbsp; <br /><br />First off, just because.<br /><br />Secondly - you want to watch the Federal government actually *become* what its detractors fear it to already be in terms of a police state?&nbsp;Just let some idiot with a mis-wired brain attempt, much less succeed, in killing the Senator, or his wife, or his running mate.<br /><br />The ballot box is the place to kill bad ideas in our polity.&nbsp; No where else, as <a href="http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/08/26/four-arrested-in-assassination-plot-to-kill-obama/">Jay notes over at Stop the ACLU</a>, <br /><br />Or, as <a href="http://townhall.com/blog/g/9c879a10-c188-46e8-abb5-7950122dcd6c">Carol Liebau</a> puts it:<br /><blockquote><div>Obviously, all of us can disagree with every single wrongheaded and misguided idea emanating from the Denver convention center -- but as Americans, let's pray for the safety of Barack Obama, his family, and all those in attendance at the convention.<br /><br />Let's beat Barack fair and square, and then be able to watch him lead a long and healthy life, together with his family.</div></blockquote>The same thing applies, of course, to the other side of the coin, Senator McCain's campaign.&nbsp; And for those who drip the vitriol and hatred (vice well-aimed political snark)&nbsp;at either candidate - such as the <strike>truther</strike> <a href="http://www.foundingbloggers.com/wordpress/2008/08/michelle-malkin-attacked-at-denver-protest/">a$$hat seen here molesting Michelle Malkin</a> (though the breathless reportage at Founding Bloggers is overdone to my taste)- remember this - like it or not, think it's stupid or not, you are helping fertilize the field where the a$$hats grow.&nbsp; -the Armorer<br /><br />*********************************<br /><br />And on the topics of freedom, unity and good citizenship...&nbsp; The country is gearing up for the annual nationwide <a target="_blank" href="http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/freedomwalk/localwalks.aspx">Freedom Walk</a> (September 7) in commemoration of the victims of 9-11 and the first responders and service members who help keep us safe.&nbsp; This is an effort of <a target="_blank" href="http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/AmericaSupportsYou/index.aspx">America Supports You</a>, the DoD&nbsp;clearinghouse for military support organizations and those they assist. - FbL<br /><br />*********************************<br /><br />Note the little thingy (yes, that's a technical term)&nbsp;over there in the sidebar, regarding the Freedom Walk.&nbsp; -the Armorer<br /><br />*********************************<br /><br /><a href="http://www.strategypage.com/military_photos/20080825115616.aspx">Now we see the new Army Class &quot;A&quot; uniform </a>- where it becomes clear that the beret was maroon&nbsp;(which I figured because of the bloused boots) and the second &quot;liver badge&quot; on the soldier's right-hand pocket (the badge with the patch of the 101st Airborne Divison) is how they're going to handle combat patches.&nbsp; Heh.&nbsp; Me still no likey.&nbsp; But, I don't have to go buy one, either.&nbsp; Good thing, too.&nbsp; Omar the Tent Maker charges extra for Big and Tall.&nbsp; Especially Big.&nbsp; -the Armorer<br /><br />********************************<br /><br />Bob Owens weighs in on our meth-using sniper wannabes over at Confederate Yankee:<br /><blockquote><div>The Left's Obama Assassination Fantasy<br />There are a lot of people who have hopes of Barack Obama being the target of an assassination attempt during the Democratic National Convention this week in Denver, and not all of them are his enemies. The arrest of a four drug users with stolen weapons and a single outlandish assassination claim has made that all too clear. <br /><br />Local news reporters see the possibility of a career-enhancing national story. National news reporters in mass market liberal enclaves see an opportunity to once again push a meme they've been hammering at for over a year, of a racist American heartland. This meme, of Americans as violent backwards yokels, is a meme that smug Europeans dearly love as it helps them maintain the delusion of continental sophistication in the face of their own cultural decline.<br /><br />Of course, none of this would be possible without the unhinged few in a nation of 300 million that would like to see Obama dead, including thus far a halfwit bail-bondsman wannabe, a Charlotte, NC man suffering the lingering effects of a brain injury, and now a quartet of meth-addled idiots with rumored ties to white supremacists and outlaw bikers.<br /><br />As you may well imagine, bloggers pounced on the story as the local news did, taking shreds of information and trying to determine just how serious of a threat Barack Obama faced.<br /><br />As it turns out, not much at all:</div></blockquote><a href="http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/271556.php">To see the &quot;not much at all&quot; from Bob's perspective, click here</a>.&nbsp; -the Armorer<br /><br />*********************************<br /><br />]]>
      <![CDATA[<em>*A term of art from the artillery. Harassment and Interdiction Fires. Back in the day, when you could just kill people and break things without a note from a lawyer, they were pre-planned, but to the enemy, random, fires at known gathering points, road junctions, Main Supply Routes, assembly areas, etc - to keep the bad guy nervous that the world around him might start exploding at any minute. Not really relevant to today's operating environment, right? But, it *is. The UAVs we fly over Afghanistan and Pakistan looking for targets of opportunity are a form of H&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;I fires, if you really want to parse it finely. We just have better sensors and fire control now. Of course, now I have to call them UAS's, because someone got a Legion of Merit for the name change.Anyway, I call the post H&amp;I Fires because it's random things posted by me and people I've given posting privileges to that particular topic. Another term of art that might be appropriate is Free Fire Zone.</em><br />]]>
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    <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2008-08-29</title>
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        I remember watching General Jackman escorting Mrs Reagan at the funeral of her husband, in the National Cathedral.

He looked right kewl&amp;manly in that suit.

Berets? I dunno. The excuse for them is, that one is a tanker, or a paratrooper, and thus does not have the capability to wear normal hats, because of the exigencies of the service.  For regular soldiers, I would say no to berets.

Besides, Airborne guys wear red berets because Daphne DuMaurier thought they looked cool, and tankers wear black berets because Nazi tankers wore them, which means they&apos;re badasse
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    <published>2008-08-29T05:42:02Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ymarsakar on 2008-08-27</title>
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        <![CDATA[<strong>&lt;B&gt;like it or not, think it's stupid or not, you are helping fertilize the field where the a$$hats grow.  -the Armorer&lt;/b&gt;</strong><br />
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I thought the US&nbsp;was supposed to have taken care of that little problem in Afghanistan.<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-08-27T22:13:15Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ymarsakar on 2008-08-27</title>
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        <![CDATA[Black people I&nbsp;knew back in January were predicting that Obama would be assassinated and that they would then go to the streets in violence as a reaction.<br />
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You don't want to give people too much ammo to destroy the US&nbsp;Constitution and the rule of law.<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-08-27T19:56:46Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from fdcol63 on 2008-08-27</title>
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        <![CDATA[I'd have to say I'm not impressed, either.&nbsp; And the Class B is absolutely hideous .... looks too much like the USCG.&nbsp; (Hey ... I love Coasties .... I've got a close&nbsp;friend who just made the O-6 list, but I'd prefer the Army not look like them!&nbsp; LOL)<br />
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I think there's an officer uniform in this pic:<br />
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<a href="http://downloads.army.mil/docs/asu/dress_classa_lo.jpg" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://downloads.army.mil/docs/asu/dress_classa_lo.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://downloads.army.mil/docs/asu/dress_classa_lo.jpg</a></a>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-27T19:53:55Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-08-27</title>
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        <![CDATA[Frank - here's <a href="http://www.army.mil/asu/" rel="nofollow">the official website</a> with all the changes.<br />
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Color me still unimpressed.<br />
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I prefer the understated look of the Marines.&nbsp; I don't like going gaudy.<br />
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I'll keep the Army budget, however.<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-08-27T19:05:14Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from The Armorer on 2008-08-27</title>
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        The new class A and the new dress blue are the same uniform, Frank.

Among the differences - everybody will have the trouser stripes, and the troops get the thin gold soutache on the sleeve.

I&apos;ve not seen the officer version yet.

But I haven&apos;t gone looking, either.
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    <title>Comment from fdcol63 on 2008-08-27</title>
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        <![CDATA[I'm confused ...... is this the design for the new Class A uniform or the new dress blues? I thought they were different. Or is the Army now just going to use one of them - this thing?<br />
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I was hoping they'd bring back the Sam Brown belts ... they were always spiffy.&nbsp; LOL]]>
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    <published>2008-08-27T18:51:08Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from SFC D on 2008-08-27</title>
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        <![CDATA[FIrst we get that damn beret, now the class A's are going blue, I can hardly wait to see what the next stroke of uniform genius will be...velcro?&nbsp; Oh...we already did that.]]>
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    <title>Comment from fdcol63 on 2008-08-27</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Disgraced people rarely become martyrs.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-27T15:28:24Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2008-08-27</title>
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        <![CDATA[As much as I detest Obama's politics, I would not want to see him dead.&nbsp; I would much rather see that he and his ideas die a natural death after a long life spent in futility.&nbsp; That would mean they had lived the impossible dream and like the Ptolemaics, become extinct.&nbsp;]]>
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    <published>2008-08-27T14:13:47Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Pfc Christopher Denny on 2008-08-26</title>
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        <![CDATA[I think the new blue Class A uniform is just hideous, I like the current green uniform.&nbsp; Why do we need a new uniform anyway, it not as if any one could mistake you for a marine in the current Class A's.&nbsp; And I don't particularly look forward to paying for them on the lss than princely salary I make as a PFC.<br />
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Gunners! HHB 2-3 FA]]>
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    <title>Comment from RetRsvMike on 2008-08-26</title>
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        <![CDATA[XBradTC: you are one of at least three and a half (myself positively not included) in favor of it.<br />
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...and i got a nickel says that since that will now be the method of designating what used to be represented by the Right Side Shoulder Sleeve Insignia, that you shall soon see new standards for the Official DA&nbsp;Photo that crop the picture to a headshot above the pocket button.<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-08-26T20:07:49Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-26T20:07:49Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9660-comment:77405</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-08-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[They made the decision last year -- one of the main reasons for going with the blues was that &quot;the [dress blue] material has superior durability&quot; over the greens.<br />
<br />
That line alone kept me from reading the rest of the release. I was laughing too hard to see...<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-08-26T18:11:26Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-26T18:11:26Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9660-comment:77403</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-08-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[Oh, I think there's two of you.<br />
<br />
And I imagine there had to be rather more than that in the ranks. I don't think the SMA and Chief would have run roughshod over everybody like that.<br />
<br />
I just don't like taking the fanciness of the dress uniform and making it the everyday uniform, and then *also* saying it's the dress uniform.&nbsp; We're over or under dressing at some point...<br />
<br />
I understand the logic, I just think it makes us look like &quot;the very model of a modern major general&quot; which is *not* a compliment in the usage.<br />
<br />
It does serve to distinguish us from the Marines. But not in a good way.<br />
<br />
Since you're the one who's going to be wearing it, I'm glad you like it.<br />
<br />
Me, I'd do my level best to be assigned to units that never unpack the things.<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-08-26T16:41:19Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-26T16:41:19Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9660-comment:77402</id>
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    <title>Comment from XBradTC on 2008-08-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>XBradTC</name>
        <uri>http://xbradtc.wordpress.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://xbradtc.wordpress.com">
        <![CDATA[Am I the only guy in the whole blogosphere that likes the Blue uniform? That said, it is a cheap and easy way to drive traffic. Heh. <br />
<br />
<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-08-26T16:24:58Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-26T16:24:58Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9660-comment:77399</id>
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    <title>Comment from fdcol63 on 2008-08-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>fdcol63</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[&nbsp;..... and representative republic.]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-08-26T15:39:08Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-26T15:39:08Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9660-comment:77398</id>
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    <title>Comment from fdcol63 on 2008-08-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>fdcol63</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[Besides being illegal and a sin (murder), it's not the prerogative of any single individual or group to determine who becomes president.<br />
<br />
That is the sole obligation, right, and privilege of the American electorate as a whole.<br />
<br />
Or as we call it, life in a democracy.]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-08-26T15:38:14Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-26T15:38:14Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9660-comment:77396</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-08-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.thedonovan.com">
        <![CDATA[Who was that yo-yo screaming &quot;American troops are raping children in the FEMA camps in Iraq!&quot; -- someone trying to roll three lies into one?<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-08-26T15:14:58Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-26T15:14:58Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9660-comment:77395</id>
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    <title>Comment from Marvin on 2008-08-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Marvin</name>
        <uri>http://wordmarvin.mee.nu</uri>
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        <![CDATA[Yes sir, <br />
use a ballot, not a bullet&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; to change government officeholders/policy.<br />
<br />
Doing it the right and lawful way is harder, but it is the only way.<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-08-26T15:12:37Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-26T15:12:37Z</updated>
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