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  <title>Comments for McCain and the Nuremburg Trials: Dude, Shut Up!</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2008-07-26T17:52:04Z</published>
    <updated>2008-07-27T15:16:38Z</updated>
    <title>McCain and the Nuremburg Trials: Dude, Shut Up!</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[While I'm busy giving political advice to McCain, let me repeat some earlier advice:

Dear Sen. McCain,

Shut up!

Okay, seriously, he's personal.&nbsp; He likes to chit chat (or BS as we say).&nbsp; But that leads to Sen. McCain saying some really loose sh*t.&nbsp; Such as taking up Obama's stupid &quot;Nuremburg Trials&quot; concept for Osama bin Laden.&]]></summary>
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      <name>Kat</name>
      <uri>http://themiddleground.blogspot.com</uri>
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      <![CDATA[While I'm busy giving political advice to McCain, let me repeat some earlier advice:<br /><br /><strong>Dear Sen. McCain,</strong><br /><br /><strong><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/25/mccain-hey-how-about-a-nuremberg-trial-for-bin-laden/">Shut up!</a></strong><br /><br />Okay, seriously, he's personal.&nbsp; He likes to chit chat (or BS as we say).&nbsp; But that leads to Sen. McCain saying some really loose sh*t.&nbsp; Such as taking up <strong><a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/06/nuremberg_osama.html">Obama's stupid &quot;Nuremburg Trials&quot;</a></strong> concept for Osama bin Laden.&nbsp; As I pointed out, so long ago, Nuremburg is not a good example of the type of trial Obama wanted to have.&nbsp;&nbsp; You know, with a bunch of rights provided to the terrorists like it was a civilian criminal court instead of a military tribunal of an enemy of the United States.&nbsp; No, the <strong><a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/06/nuremberg_osama.html">Nuremburg trials were not anything about civil rights</a></strong>.<br /><br />I'm sure that McCain has some residual feelings about how he had no trial and was simply classified a &quot;war criminal&quot; and tortured as a &quot;guest&quot; of the North Vietnamese, but he shouldn't let that over ride the reality: Osama bin Laden is 99.999% unlikely to be captured alive. <br /><br />Reporters are asking McCain that question to get him to, yes, indeed, say something stupid.&nbsp; Like repeat Obama's point as if McCain had no other idea, was following Obama or shoring up his (Obama's) political positions <strong>UPDATE: <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080726/ap_on_el_pr/obama">Even Obama's Team is recognizing those positions</a></strong>.&nbsp; There may, indeed, be some&nbsp;position somewhere that&nbsp;McCain&nbsp;shares with Obama, but he doesn't have to outline them in red and shine a neon light on them.&nbsp; McCain has to be &quot;different&quot; than&nbsp;president&nbsp;Bush, but&nbsp;he's trying way to hard and he's giving things up&nbsp;to Obama that he shouldn't have to.<br /><br />The other part of the issue&nbsp;is that reporters are trying to&nbsp;get&nbsp;McCain to say he would not hold military tribunals or anything like what&nbsp;is being held&nbsp;down in Guantanamo.&nbsp; In fact, implying those are somehow inappropriate or illegal.&nbsp; Since McCain is going to inherit these trials (maybe), he should try not to give the defense teams any more ammo&nbsp;in trying to have the trials thrown out because the&nbsp;next President doesn't even believe in them.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />When asked&nbsp;such an ignorant question about&nbsp;what would McCain do if Osama bin Laden was captured,&nbsp;McCain should not go traipsing off into the&nbsp;trap like Bambi on a flower hunting expedition.&nbsp; He&nbsp;should stick with the simple facts.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />Osama bin Laden&nbsp;is more likely to be killed than captured.&nbsp; <br /><br />If&nbsp;he really must elaborate here, simply say that bin Laden knows that the United States will&nbsp;not forget nor give up on&nbsp;bringing bin Laden to justice.&nbsp; Ambiguous enough no one knows if you mean to capture or kill.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />I know, that sounds somewhat like President Bush, but contrary to popular belief, Bush is not totally stupid.&nbsp; Or, at least, Karl Rove wasn't.&nbsp; Now, if only somebody on McCain's Straight Talk Train could reign him in and remind him that he is running for president.&nbsp; McCain's time for rambling on about whatever, even as a man of the people, is about over.&nbsp; Let's hope McCain gets a little discipline and starts staying with a simple straightforward message instead of wondering off into political mine fields.<br /><br />In the end, McCain needs to have a few satisfactory, bullet point answers&nbsp;to some of these questions; a very clear, definitive, short answer&nbsp;on most questions and&nbsp;have longer, more knowledgeable answers on the main points: Iraq, Afghanistan, Economy, Energy.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />That's it.&nbsp; In fact, it is very likely that&nbsp;if McCain can discipline himself to these four topics, the most important topics to the US citizen, and hammers Obama&nbsp;on these items (because he is so weak there), McCain could win walking away in November.<br /><br />So, somebody grab the good Senator the next time he starts wandering after Bambi in the enchanted forest and stuff a sock in it.&nbsp; <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />&nbsp; <br /><br />]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from Grumpy on 2008-07-26</title>
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        <name>Grumpy</name>
        
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        @Kat, Nuremberg Trials, very complex subject. Sen. McCain, you know better. In name of HISTORY and CONTEXT. drop it.
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    <published>2008-07-27T02:24:52Z</published>
    <updated>2008-07-27T02:24:52Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Fishmugger on 2008-07-26</title>
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        <name>Fishmugger</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[Kat,<br />
<br />
You goota take smaller bites, I love reading you but my lips get tired.]]>
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    <published>2008-07-27T01:01:59Z</published>
    <updated>2008-07-27T01:01:59Z</updated>
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