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  <title>Comments for TINS!* A Vignette Illuminating the Tactical Use of &quot;Judicious Stupidity&quot;</title>
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    <published>2008-06-30T09:20:32Z</published>
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    <title>TINS!* A Vignette Illuminating the Tactical Use of &quot;Judicious Stupidity&quot;</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[Cass has expanded on the subject of MilBlogging, Guidelines, and Leadership/Followership which John tossed out for discussion here. As usual, the discussion has been pretty all-encompassing, and during it, I raised the point that &ldquo;judicious stupidity&rdquo; is one of the tools us underlings sometimes use to mitigate the effect of perfectly legal but incredibly stupid orders (and I&rsquo;m not speaking of orders which are merely tactically unsound). Judicious stupidity falls within the realm of accomplishing the *What* without complying with *How*. The art form lies in knowing *When* to use it. Ymarkasar, who&rsquo;s a frequent commenter at Cassie&rsquo;s and a...]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: larger;"><strong><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><a href="http://www.villainouscompany.com/vcblog/archives/2008/06/a_higher_standa.html"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Cass has expanded on</span></span></a></span></strong></span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;"> </span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">the subject of MilBlogging, Guidelines, and Leadership/Followership which </span></span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/06/on_dod_blogging.html"><span style="font-family: Arial;"><strong>John tossed out for discussion here</strong></span></a><span style="font-family: Arial;">. </span></span><span style="font-family: Arial;">As usual, the discussion has been pretty all-encompassing, and during it, I raised the point that &ldquo;judicious stupidity&rdquo; is one of the tools us underlings sometimes use to mitigate the effect of perfectly legal but incredibly stupid orders (and I&rsquo;m not speaking of orders which are merely tactically unsound). Judicious stupidity falls within the realm of accomplishing the *What* without complying with *How*. The art form lies in knowing *When* to use it. </span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Ymarkasar, who&rsquo;s a frequent commenter at Cassie&rsquo;s and a sometime commenter here, asked me if I had an example in mind. <strike>Does a bear</strike> By an odd quirk of fate, I did.</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Long-time readers (and avid archivers) might recall me mentioning </span></span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/04/i_have_the_worst_job.html"><span style="font-family: Arial;"><strong>my buddy Norm</strong></span></a></span><span style="font-family: Arial;"> on a couple of occasions -- </span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Norm was a </span></span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: larger;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><a href="http://www.fototime.com/7AD9C9FA6BBD3CE/orig.jpg"><span style="font-family: Arial;"><strong>Loach</strong></span></a></span><span style="font-family: Arial;">-driver with the First o&rsquo; the Ninth in RVN. He flew in III Corps and I stomped around in IV Corps, but we both worked the Cambodian border along the Parrot&rsquo;s Beak and I've seen the area which generated this TINS!*. One day, Norm got called into the Sector TOC at Tay Ninh for a mission brief&hellip;</span></span></span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">&ldquo;Here&rsquo;s where we want you to go.&rdquo; The Captain indicated a point on the Cambodian border approximately in the middle of the northeastern slope of the Parrot&rsquo;s Beak. &ldquo;We have confirmed intelligence that two NVA companies will be crossing into III Corps at this point *tapping the map for emphasis* at 1845 this evening. We want you right there, at 500 feet directly overhead. No lower. No higher.&rdquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Now, being in a helicopter 500 feet directly over the heads of almost 100 people who are armed with automatic weapons and who have undergone How To Shoot Down Helicopters 101 is not the best place in the world to be unless you&rsquo;re really, really curious about what it feels like to get ripped to shreds in mid-air. With that prospect firmly ensconced in his cerebral cortex, Norm asked, &ldquo;I'm a Scout. I go out and look for them when we don't know where they are. If you *know* they&rsquo;re going to be there, why do you need *me*?&rdquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">&ldquo;Because we&rsquo;re going to hit them with a TOT the instant they cross.&rdquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Oh-kaaaay, the plot has thickened. Not only did the Dai-uy want Norm on station, he wanted him on station *when the artillery arrived*. If the little bullets don&rsquo;t get&rsquo;cha, the big ones will. Norm asked, &ldquo;If it&rsquo;s a TOT, there&rsquo;s no need for an adjustment, so why do you need *me*?&rdquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">&ldquo;Because we need to confirm the hits.&rdquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">&ldquo;I could go in there *after* the artillery goes boom. Why do you want me overhead *when* it goes boom?&rdquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">&ldquo;We want them bunched up, not spread out in a line.&rdquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Oh-kaaaay, the plot has jelled. *Someone* obviously thought that the NVA would cluster together to gawp at Norm rather than doing what they always did when they spotted a helicopter -- scatter for cover and commence mass-firing or go to ground in-place and commence mass-firing. Norm was still ruminating on this when the Ops NCO tugged his sleeve and whispered, &ldquo;He&rsquo;s so new, he&rsquo;s still p*ssing stateside water. He heard the artillery guys talking about &ldquo;distant aiming points&rdquo; and thinks they actually need to *aim* the guns at something in order to shoot. He wants *you* to be that aiming point.&rdquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Norm&rsquo;s never been close enough to the turnip truck to even see it, let alone fall off it. </span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">&ldquo;What about the intel?&rdquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">&ldquo;Sensors. Been tracking this group for three days and timing their advance. It&rsquo;s a safe bet they&rsquo;ll be there on time.&rdquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Actually, this is a dirt-simple </span></span><st1:city><st1:place></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-size: small;"><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Mission</span></st1:place></st1:city></span><span style="font-size: larger;"><st1:city><st1:place></st1:place></st1:city></span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">. The bad guys are heading for the border, they&rsquo;re gonna get whacked and TOC wants to know the results. </span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">What&rsquo;s *not* dirt-simple is The Order. </span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">If Norm followed The Order, the </span></span><st1:city><st1:place></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-size: small;"><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Mission</span></st1:place></st1:city></span><span style="font-size: larger;"><st1:city><st1:place></st1:place></st1:city></span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;"> wouldn&rsquo;t get accomplished, because even though The Mission was based on good intel, The Order was based on false assumptions. And following The Order would *blow* The Mission, because flying a recon over the area would alert the target, and they&rsquo;d halt prior to entering the kill zone. Finally, Norm would be extremely likely to get dead while he was not-accomplishing The Mission, which would be a poor tradeoff for a posthumous Air Medal.</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">&ldquo;Excuse me, Captain, but it isn&rsquo;t really a good idea to put a --&ldquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">&ldquo;If you&rsquo;re afraid to go, I can get another pilot.&rdquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">&ldquo;It&rsquo;s not that -- it&rsquo;s just that you seem to believe -- &ldquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">&ldquo;If you don&rsquo;t want to do this mission, say so and get out.&rdquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">&ldquo;Oh, I can do the mission. It's --&rdquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">&ldquo;Good. Get going.&rdquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Norm headed out and applied some enroute judicious stupidity.</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">He didn&rsquo;t fly to the target area and loiter at 500 feet -- he flew three klicks north of the target area, which placed him to the right of the gun-target line, and climbed to 3,000 feet. He could now observe the kill zone without being seen or heard (a Loach at 3000 feet looks like a dust mote at ten feet and the low-pitched engine noise fades to a <em>whirrrr</em> above 2000 feet).</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">If anybody asked him why he was where he was instead of where he wasn't, ooops -- he got misoriented and climbed to get his bearings.</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">He spotted the NVA as soon as he got to altitude. He watched as they continued into the kill zone and watched as the artillery hit and watched as the few survivors ran deeper into the region we called AO Keep Out, where they&rsquo;d run afoul of more sensors, scatterable mines and mechanical ambushes. He then flew a recon into the kill zone to assess the damage.</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">The </span></span><st1:city><st1:place></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-size: small;"><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Mission</span></st1:place></st1:city></span><span style="font-size: larger;"><st1:city><st1:place></st1:place></st1:city></span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;"> got accomplished without obeying The Order.</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Which is not the end of the story.</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Norm has a flair for melodrama. </span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">When the first rounds were fired, Norm keyed the mike on the TOC frequency and hollered, &ldquo;Hey, Captain, they&rsquo;re shooting over the *top* of the helicopter -- tell them to aim about ten feet below my skids!&rdquo;</span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Norm has no idea what transpired after the Captain relayed that particular message to the battalion firing the TOT, but he never again saw him in the Sector TOC at Tay Ninh.</span>..</span></p><br />]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-07-02</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Yeah - what JTG said there at the end!&nbsp; Joke!&nbsp; Joke!&nbsp; Move along, there's nothing to see here!<br />
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[kicks JTG under the bench]</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-02T14:51:39Z</published>
    <updated>2008-07-02T14:51:39Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2008-07-02</title>
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        If it does, I&apos;ll be under the workbench, forging provenance and registration documents for the Degtyarev prior to re-WATing it.

Hey, Happy Guns are legal in KS now, you know.



(To scaredy-cats: The above refers to the interactive fiction which happens in comment parties here, and does not signify any intention to violate the National Firearms Act.)
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    <published>2008-07-02T14:45:14Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-07-02</title>
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        <name>BillT</name>
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        <![CDATA[<em>...this new comment system is juicy.<br />
<br />
</em>Just wait 'til a comment party gets rolling...<em><br />
</em>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-02T06:41:05Z</published>
    <updated>2008-07-02T06:41:05Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-07-02</title>
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        <![CDATA[If their rate of advance had changed, TOC would have relayed a new &quot;arrival&quot; time to the guns.<br />
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Parthian shot? No, Norm was Glaswegian.<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-07-02T06:38:49Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ymarsakar on 2008-07-01</title>
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        <![CDATA[Btw, this new comment system is juicy.<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-07-01T23:51:39Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ymarsakar on 2008-07-01</title>
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        <![CDATA[&lt;B&gt;The Mission, because flying a recon over the area would alert the target, and they&rsquo;d halt prior to entering the kill zone. &lt;/b&gt;<br />
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If sensors had detected their rate of advance, it would be pretty good berries to bet that their &quot;rate of advance&quot; would change, and thus the artillery barrage will be off target unless they have a spotter on site.<br />
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&lt;B&gt;Norm has no idea what transpired after the Captain relayed that particular message to the battalion firing the TOT, but he never again saw him in the Sector TOC at Tay Ninh...&lt;/b&gt;<br />
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Talk about Parthian shot.<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-07-01T22:36:35Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-07-01</title>
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        <![CDATA[*ducking the barrage of farging nuts*<br />
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(they're heavier than macadamias and harder than wals)<br />]]>
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    <published>2008-07-01T19:37:09Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-07-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.thedonovan.com">
        <![CDATA[SATV-FFF<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-07-01T19:32:24Z</published>
    <updated>2008-07-01T19:32:24Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9400-comment:74926</id>
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    <title>Comment from Cassandra on 2008-07-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>Cassandra</name>
        <uri>http://www.villainouscompany.com/vcblog</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.villainouscompany.com/vcblog">
        <![CDATA[You know, usually I can figure out acronyms with out asking...<br />
<br />
[grumbling]<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-07-01T18:46:18Z</published>
    <updated>2008-07-01T18:46:18Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9400-comment:74904</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-06-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.thedonovan.com">
        <![CDATA[Heh. WereKitty's got competition...<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-06-30T23:43:28Z</published>
    <updated>2008-06-30T23:43:28Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9400-comment:74903</id>
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    <title>Comment from DL Sly on 2008-06-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>DL Sly</name>
        
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    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<em>...said the man who walked into the doctor's office with a steering wheel stuck down his pants.<br />
</em><br />
....and a&nbsp;thong wrapped around the hub.<br />
0&gt;;~}]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-06-30T22:49:25Z</published>
    <updated>2008-06-30T22:49:25Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9400-comment:74902</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-06-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.thedonovan.com">
        <![CDATA[<em>IT'S DRIVING ME FARGING NUTS</em>.<br />
&nbsp;                               <br />
...said the man who walked into the doctor's office with a steering wheel stuck down his pants.<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-06-30T22:26:42Z</published>
    <updated>2008-06-30T22:26:42Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9400-comment:74901</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-06-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.thedonovan.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>Sure intro to a &quot;sea story&quot; (might be more familiar to you).&nbsp; This Is No Shite.</p>

Clearly, we need a dictionary faq.]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-06-30T22:11:38Z</published>
    <updated>2008-06-30T22:11:38Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9400-comment:74900</id>
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    <title>Comment from Cassandra on 2008-06-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Cassandra</name>
        <uri>http://www.villainouscompany.com/vcblog</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.villainouscompany.com/vcblog">
        <![CDATA[OK.<br />
<br />
1. Good story.<br />
<br />
2. WHAT IN THE BLOODY HELK IS &quot;TINS&quot;? IT'S DRIVING ME FARGING NUTS.<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-06-30T21:39:27Z</published>
    <updated>2008-06-30T21:39:27Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9400-comment:74886</id>
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    <title>Comment from XBradTC on 2008-06-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>XBradTC</name>
        <uri>http://xbradtc.wordpress.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://xbradtc.wordpress.com">
        <![CDATA[Love a good TINS.<br />
I never got pissed at being told what to do. Hell, that was mother's milk. But the &quot;How&quot; sent me through the roof. More than once I invited the Company Commander to take over my track if he was so sure how he wanted the job done. I said I'd be more than willing to sit in his track and talk on the radio...<br />]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-06-30T06:34:34Z</published>
    <updated>2008-06-30T06:34:34Z</updated>
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