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H&I* Fires, 20 JUN 2008

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Time to add a new caveat, because from email it's not clear to some folks (mind you, if you don't read this it won't matter...) Being an open post, people (collectively, the Denizens) other than I post in the H&I. They sign their work (most of the time) - keep that in mind when you want to flame someone in email please - if it doesn't say "The Armorer" or "John" then I didn't write it! And honestly - if you don't like something said or posted... leave a comment, and hash it out (within the context of The Rulez which are clearly posted on the comment form, I would add).

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I'm throwing yet more gasoline on the Iran topic with this.(Still waiting for that 'beat down' you threatened me with, Kat.)
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I wonder if this HuffPo-ster will call this a war crime if the UNSC doesn't sign of on it? Such a study in contrasts, non? I get shades of the VC and NVA using countries along the western border of South Vietnam(Republic of Vietnam, or RVN) as LOC and staging areas for attacks in RVN, but calling a Nixon a war criminal for 'broadening the war' by going after the enemy where he's at with the first post. When you study the PLA/PLAN you find their doctrine essentially reduces to 'if you can attack us from there then you can be attacked there by us', and it's totally a valid reading of int'l law. Who knew?
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Fark. I got tagged by the BlogPrincess. Don't expect an immediate reply, 'cuz I'm busily saving civilization at the moment, but I'll give you a teaser. Since Cassie's a Lady of as Many Pseudonyms as She Has Talents -- in other words, she's got a bigger identity crisis than WereKitty -- I thought I'd include a small dedication to Princess Leia In A Cheese Danish Bikini with the response.

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Perseverance. Sometimes it's okay if you just can't let something go. H/t, Kevin. -the Armorer

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Perhaps Senator Clinton should move to Canada? They seem to be taking her prescription for child-rearing to heart... From Fox News (which means some people won't read it, I know):

A Canadian court has overturned a father's punishment for his daughter after she refused to stay off the Internet, his attorney said Wednesday.

The girl, 12, took her father to Quebec Superior Court after he refused to allow her to go on a school trip for chatting on Web sites and then posting "inappropriate" pictures of herself online using a friend's computer, AFP reported.

The punishment was for the girl's "own protection," according to the father's attorney, Kim Beaudoin, who is appealing the ruling.

"She's a child," Beaudoin told AFP. "At her age, children test their limits and it's up to their parent to set boundaries. I started an appeal of the decision today to reestablish parental
authority, and to ensure that this case doesn't set a precedent." Otherwise, she continued, "Parents are going to be walking on egg shells from now on."

According to court documents, the girl's Internet usage was the latest in a rash of disciplinary problems. But Justice Suzanne Tessier, who was presiding over the case, found the punishment too severe.

It also serves as a model for Supreme Court overwatch of military operations world-wide, I'm thinking. Heh. -the Armorer

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Oh good golly gee - what little narcissists these two future fluffers are. -the Armorer

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Then we have this sterling example of high-quality thought processes amongst the young. -the Armorer

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*A term of art from the artillery. Harassment and Interdiction Fires.

Back in the day, when you could just kill people and break things without a note from a lawyer, they were pre-planned, but to the enemy, random, fires at known gathering points, road junctions, Main Supply Routes, assembly areas, etc - to keep the bad guy nervous that the world around him might start exploding at any minute.

Not really relevant to today's operating environment, right? But, it *is*

The UAVs we fly over Afghanistan and Pakistan looking for targets of opportunity are a form of H&I fires, if you really want to parse it finely. We just have better sensors and fire control now.

I call the post that because it's random things posted by me and people I've given posting privileges to that particular topic. Another term of art that might be appropriate is "Free Fire Zone".

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If not sanctioned by the UN Security Council - and there is no reason to believe that it would be - it would be a war crime. -- Robert Naiman That's hilarious. The moonbats have wished the UNSC had that power *sooooo* hard and for *sooooo* long that they've finally come to believe their wish *must* have been granted. "Star light, star bright..."
 
you want war crimes and violations of the Geneva Convention? i'll give you war crimes! take a gander at this... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369482,00.html
 
Ry...I've pretty much came to the conclusion that I am beating a dead horse on Iran. Face it, we are persuing sanctions, etc and it would take a really horrendous act for anyone to go after Iran. I am only hoping that everyone else is right and I'm not really playing Churchill screaming in the wilderness that there is a madman on the loose.
 
From what we can tell, the Pentagon has not aggressively followed up, either on the Desautels case or those of hundreds of other Americans for whom the Chinese should be able to account. Nor did they ever on the POW/MIAs from my war. China and Vietnam have a tradition of holding POWs as bargaining chips. One recent example is the French soldiers who were not repatriated after 1954 -- referred to as "our precious pearls" by Hanoi, used to leverage concessions from the French in the form of investments and aid, then quietly repatriated years afterward. There's more than enough evidence that US POWs were retained for the same reason -- but with Congress' push to "normalize" relations immediately after Saigon fell, Hanoi no longer had a use for bargaining chips. And their continued existence would have proved embarrassing to a US government which had loudly proclaimed that *all* POWs had been accounted for and returned. Bobby Garwood was supremely lucky to get out alive.
 
*perk* Fluffers???!!!!!??????
 
OH.MY.GOD.... it's just money, I'm pissed because we had to give it back and now I have charges???? Holy crap. I'm not even sure they can handle being Fluffers!
 
Yeah, and from the tenor of the newscast, they've done it before and didn't even get a wrist-slap. 90 days in the pokey on the misdemeanor charge. 5-to-10 with the Peace Corps in Chad for a dose of reality. Sentences to be served concurrently -- as in, *in* the pokey *in* Chad. Parents to receive 50 whacks of the cluebat...
 
Wow. That's just mind-boggling, that they're so callous about it. Hopefully, the older sister of the 9-year old has her say in the matter.......heh, heh, heh.