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  <updated>2008-09-23T16:53:47Z</updated>
  <title>Comments for H&amp;I* Fires, 17 MAY 2008</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2008-05-18T04:40:42Z</published>
    <updated>2008-06-10T12:11:17Z</updated>
    <title>H&amp;I* Fires, 17 MAY 2008</title>
    <summary>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That&apos;s only polite. You&apos;re advertising here, we should get an ad at your place... Time to add a new caveat, because from email it&apos;s not clear to some folks (mind you, if you don&apos;t read this it won&apos;t matter...) Being an open post, people (collectively, the Denizens) other than I post in the H&amp;I. They sign their work (most of the time) - keep that in mind when you want...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><em>Open post for those with something to share, updated through the day. New, complete posts come in below this one. Note: If trackbacking, please acknowledge this post in your post. That's only polite.</p>

<p>You're advertising here, we should get an ad at your place...</p>

<p>Time to add a new caveat, because from email it's not clear to some folks (mind you, if you don't read this it won't matter...) Being an open post, people (collectively, the Denizens) other than I post in the H&I. They sign their work (most of the time) - keep that in mind when you want to flame someone in email please - if it doesn't say "The Armorer" or "John" then I didn't write it! And honestly - if you don't like something said or posted... leave a comment, and hash it out (within the context of The Rulez which are clearly posted on the comment form, I would add).</em></p>

<p>********************************<br />
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,355737,00.html"><strong>This</strong></a> is for Unka Chief SB Dolla Bill since he’s likely tired of <em>thongs</em> and needs more variety in his lingerie while in Iraq diet.   And to think I initially found that story at PLA Daily, though there was no picture.  Soldiers.   Predictable the world over.<br />
(gollum slinks into his corner in the garderobe to get over his case of the shakes from hunting that one down.  He’s such an innocent child.  Then it’s time to play some Romance of the Three Kingdoms inspired videogames before RBBH knocks his peabrain onto the floor with the Skillet of Doom with a resounding thwock for looking up lingerie clad womynz.)  <br />
--ry<br />
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<p>When you're a muj, some days are diamonds, some days, you get raisins.  At least I hope that interpretation is the correct one.</p>

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<p>How I spent my week.</p>

<p>I spent the week at Fort Bliss, Texas, stuck in a room with a bunch of wireheads and analysts.<br />
 <br />
Before we could get to the subject of how many angels could dance on the head of this pin, we had first to determine what the hardness of the wire the pin was made from was, whether or not it had been annealed properly, what the current ambient temp was (did we need multiple use cases on that issue?) what the ratio of pinhead diameter to pin shaft diameter was, how was pin mounted (flexing issues!) and whether or not the steel from which the pin was made came from re-cycled steel, or virgin steel - after first checking with the two womyn present to make sure that they understood we meant the word virgin in a non-patriarchally dominating way - because as we all know, recycled steel has stray molecules of copper and aluminun in it.  Then we started in on what constituted a "standard" angel in terms of molecular density and dancing ability... and don't get me started about the discussion of should we have multiple use cases for ballroom dancing, break dancing, simple in-place gyration dancing, square dancing, reels, disco, etc.  And we bickered about should we assume all angels dance equally well, or did we need to account for the number of Armorer-style dancers who simply shuffle from one foot to the other and look miserable, vice the Travolta-style...   But we had a great dinner at a Mexican place just this side of the border.  </p>

<p>And then after I wrote it all up, we changed everything.  -the Armorer</p>

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      <![CDATA[<p>*A term of art from the artillery. Harassment and Interdiction Fires.</p>

<p>Back in the day, when you could just kill people and break things without a note from a lawyer, they were pre-planned, but to the enemy, random, fires at known gathering points, road junctions, Main Supply Routes, assembly areas, etc - to keep the bad guy nervous that the world around him might start exploding at any minute.</p>

<p>Not really relevant to today's operating environment, right? But, it *is*</p>

<p>The UAVs we fly over Afghanistan and Pakistan looking for targets of opportunity are a form of H&I fires, if you really want to parse it finely. We just have better sensors and fire control now.</p>

<p>I call the post that because it's random things posted by me and people I've given posting privileges to that particular topic. Another term of art that might be appropriate is "Free Fire Zone".</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from HomefrontSix on 2008-05-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>HomefrontSix</name>
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        Damn. Cass beat me to it. 


Maybe we could ask Richard Gere...
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    <published>2008-05-20T19:37:37Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-20T19:37:37Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Cassandra on 2008-05-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Cassandra</name>
        <uri>http://www.villainouscompany.com/vcblog</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<em>If it's solar-powered, you might also get a short in your gerbil.</em>

This is why the battery-powered gerbils are *so* invaluable...

Oh. I so did not type that.]]>
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    <published>2008-05-20T17:15:42Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-20T17:15:42Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-05-19</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        That reminds me, Ry.  The hockey pitch is closed for re-graveling.
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    <published>2008-05-19T11:32:43Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from ry on 2008-05-19</title>
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        Oh sure, Fuzz.  You laugh but I have to worry about him cutting off the street hockey for me and the zombies, Beligian beer, and the HBO. 
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    <published>2008-05-19T11:00:01Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-05-19</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
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        If it&apos;s solar-powered, you might also get a short in your gerbil...
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    <published>2008-05-19T09:06:47Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-19T09:06:47Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from J.M. Heinrichs on 2008-05-18</title>
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        Gerbil shorts? Gerbil warming shorts? Short gerbils?

Cheers
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    <published>2008-05-18T20:42:33Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9191-comment:73198</id>
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    <title>Comment from FbL on 2008-05-18</title>
    <author>
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        *ROFLMAO*

I just read this comment thread to my mother and we were both in shrieks and tears of laughter.
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    <published>2008-05-18T18:15:03Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-18T18:15:03Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-05-18</title>
    <author>
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        <![CDATA[<em>It was the Gerbil comment that brought me up short.</em>

I was going to say something about gerbils up shorts, but thought, "Naw, that'll just get AFSis going."

*shrug* She did it anyway...]]>
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    <published>2008-05-18T16:11:12Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Fishmugger on 2008-05-18</title>
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        Wow...AFSister...you must really hate spam quiche. Just think of all the hungry people in the world and what they would do for some.

Nah...that would be cruel.
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    <published>2008-05-18T15:04:50Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2008-05-18</title>
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        BRA
BRA
BRA
BRA
GERBIL
BRA
BRA
BRA
BRA
GERBIL
THONG
THONG
THONG
THONG
THING A THONG
THING A THONG ABOUT BRA&apos;TH AND GERBILTH 
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    <published>2008-05-18T13:55:18Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-05-18</title>
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        <![CDATA[<em>Oh, well, you got that because between you and John I *still* get thong ads on the right sidebar when using gmail.</em>

If you'd stop mentioning lingerie in every e-gram you send, the ad-bot would start sending nice recipes for spam quiche, instead...]]>
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    <published>2008-05-18T05:48:47Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from ry on 2008-05-17</title>
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        So.... you were going for a shovel to hide the evidence?  I mean, that sounds like the reasonable thing to do, something one would know to do.   
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    <published>2008-05-18T00:47:12Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-05-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Ry - like many people here, I&apos;ve stuck my hand in that &quot;pile of goo&quot; that Patton talked about.

It was the Gerbil comment that brought me up short.
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    <published>2008-05-17T23:01:02Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from ry on 2008-05-17</title>
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        <![CDATA[Wha...? 

Oh, well, you got that because between you and John I *still* get thong ads on the right sidebar when using gmail.  So there.  

Besides, I mean, it wasn't like i was saying you had to <em>wear</em> the brazzier.  I mean, don't you get tired of looking at thongs?  Wouldn't another bit of, hmm, finery be, oh, a welcome change?  Yeah, I know, the model's more Skippy-sans style, but you'll live.  We're still working on fitting the 140 watt woofers in Hubert with the extending dancing poles, but that should tide you over for about 60 seconds.  

And it's a Fox news link John.  I didn't use any of the blogs talking about it posts.  Sheesh, blood you've no problem, pr0n you've no problem with, but bras on Fox news bring you up short?  <em>Dude.</em>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-17T22:48:48Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9191-comment:73177</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-05-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
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        Thanks *ever* so much, Argent.

I was thinking more along the lines of skinning a gollum than shaving a gerbil...
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    <published>2008-05-17T13:58:15Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.9191-comment:73176</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-05-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
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        <![CDATA[<em>...they are so disturbing I don't think I'm gonna *read* the post...</em>

Yeah, right. The only thing that would *stop* you from reading the post would be a gaping chasm opening directly beneath your 'puter...]]>
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    <published>2008-05-17T13:55:01Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-05-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Heh.  I scanned the comments from inside the blog software... and they are so disturbing I don&apos;t think I&apos;m gonna *read* the post...
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    <published>2008-05-17T13:45:18Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Argent on 2008-05-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Argent</name>
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        Don&apos;t you want support in your job?

If the gerbil device is an electric razor you can shave them in the sun.


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    <published>2008-05-17T13:05:45Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-17T13:05:45Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-05-17</title>
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        &quot;Sooooo, just out of curiosity, *why* do you think I&apos;d need a bra -- let alone a solar-powered one?&quot; he asked, idly testing the edge of the Gerber-sharp razor...
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    <published>2008-05-17T10:38:50Z</published>
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