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  <title>Comments for Hussan&apos;s Story</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2008-04-03T08:57:18Z</published>
    <updated>2008-04-09T12:52:21Z</updated>
    <title>Hussan&apos;s Story</title>
    <summary>Net connectivity has been a bit hinky the past week, but I&apos;ve been able to pop in often enough to read what&apos;s been going on -- although my comments usually earn a &quot;Gee, IE can&apos;t display that page, and it&apos;s really, really sorry about that. Try again next month&quot; message. So, I have a bit of time after work to yak with the Junior Birdmen. The following came out in a one-on-one that took place a couple of days ago, and I think it ties in nicely with what Kat&apos;s been saying, particularly in her Global Jihad All Star Team...</summary>
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      <name>Bill</name>
      <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Net connectivity has been a bit hinky the past week, but I've been able to pop in often enough to read what's been going on -- although my comments usually earn a "Gee, IE can't display that page, and it's really, really sorry about that. Try again next month" message.</p>

<p>So, I have a bit of time after work to yak with the Junior Birdmen. The following came out in a one-on-one that took place a couple of days ago, and I think it ties in nicely with what Kat's been saying, particularly in her <a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/global_jihad_al.html"><strong>Global Jihad All Star Team</strong></a> and FuzzyBee's <br />
<a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2008/03/disturbing_the.html"><strong>Disturbing</strong></a>. BTW, I *had* comments, but I see the Regulars did their usual sterling job of covering for me...</p>

<p>* * * * * * * * * * * * <br />
Hussan (not his real name, for a very good reason) had just finished a couple of bumpy trips around the traffic pattern (okay, they call it a “circuit” -- ‘nother Brit legacy) and I was quizzing him about what the winds were doing at 2,000 feet. After about five minutes, the topic shifted to flying in general, then to combat flying in particular. Then it took a turn I hadn’t expected.</p>

<p>“There is a mosque in [town name redacted], the mosque is Wahabi. One day, there is a sniper in the minaret with a Dragunov -- you know this rifle?”</p>

<p>“Yeah -- Russian sniper rifle. The VC had Sov advisors and they used it on us in Vietnam.”</p>

<p>“Yes, the Russian rifle. The sniper in the minaret, he is a good shot, a very good shot with the Dragunov. He begins shooting at people in the street, not hitting, just shooting. A police car drives up in front of the mosque and the two policemen get out. The sniper shoots the driver *<em>bip</em>* in the head, and the driver falls down. The other policeman goes to his friend to pull him behind the car and the sniper shoots him *<em>bip</em>* in the head also. So two policemen are dead in the street.</p>

<p>“The people run to the policemen and the sniper shoots *<em>bip</em>*--*<em>bip</em>* and the people run to the doorways. He does not shoot the people, just shoots so more policemen come so he can shoot them when they get there. Soon some more cars with policemen come and the sniper shoots one *<em>bip</em>* and the other policemen shoot back and take cover, they do not run away like they do in the time of Saddam. The sniper hides and the policemen stop shooting. The sniper looks up over the balcony and all the policemen shoot. They stop shooting when the sniper hides, then all shoot when he looks up over the balcony, then they stop when he hides again. All at once, all the policemen come out from cover and shoot. They move into the street and keep shooting up at where the sniper is, they keep him from looking up. </p>

<p>“Suddenly, there are some American soldiers running around the corner toward the mosque. They run to the door with a shotgun, they shoot the hinges and kick the door in, then they run inside, then some of the policemen stop shooting and run inside with them. The other policemen stop shooting at where the sniper hides in the minaret, but they keep aiming up there. Then one gets a call on his cell phone, and he tells the others to stop aiming, and some go over to the dead policemen and some go into the mosque.</p>

<p>“I saw this, it was in my town. My little brother -- not *smaller-than-I-am* little, *younger-than-I-am* little -- he was with me and saw this, too. I am already in the Army, on leave from Army cadet school. My little brother now joins the police.</p>

<p>“When the soldiers and the police go into the mosque, there is a fight. When it is over, they search the mosque and find IEDs, mortars, RPGs. The Wahabis are two Afghans, one Syrian, three Saudis. No Iraqis.</p>

<p>“So, why do the CNN reporters say this is *Iraqi* insurgency?”<br />
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8991-comment:71579</id>
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2008-04-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>Cricket</name>
        
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        Seriously?  Why marinate goat for 36 hours?  Won&apos;t it spoil?  I have refrigeration to do it, but 36 hours?

I can ask the halal meat department at the DeKalb Farmer&apos;s Market about it...they get goat, lamb, Rocky Mountain Oysters..
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    <published>2008-04-04T16:35:29Z</published>
    <updated>2008-04-04T16:35:29Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8991-comment:71556</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-04-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillT</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[Sarge B -- Your future home just upgraded the hospital from semi-temporary (aka "Big Tent Over Aluminum Framework") to semi-permanent (aka "Aluminum Skin Over Aluminum Framework") -- not to handle a huge increase in casualties, but as a base for the increased number of MEDCAPs going on the road to organize civilian clinics.

Cricket -- Keep the Engineer and the CLUs happy; marinate goat for at least 36 hours.

kat -- Sarge B's wearing a *different* set of cammies these days, but OTW's a good suggestion. BTW, I'll be his forward LP/speedbump if al-Q-I goes all blitzkrieg 'n' stuff.

<em>Bill, you are a good man.</em> -- Dagnabbit, Ledger, I've got a *curmudgeon* rep to maintain!

Brab! You survived the puppy onslaught! 
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    <published>2008-04-04T07:57:33Z</published>
    <updated>2008-04-04T07:57:33Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8991-comment:71551</id>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Barb</name>
        <uri>http://barbette.blogspot.com</uri>
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        Good story, Bill.  Tell Hussan he&apos;s one of the good guys, and we&apos;re proud of him!
I noticed the good work of the cops as well, very good to see how professional they have become.

And I&apos;m not sure Iraq will survive having Unka Bill and Godzilla ranging together - but the Denizennes will surely love it !!!

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    <published>2008-04-03T19:18:52Z</published>
    <updated>2008-04-03T19:18:52Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8991-comment:71543</id>
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    <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
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        Sgt B.  Get &quot;Outside the Wire&quot; ASAP and take a look at Bad Voodoo&apos;s PBS Frontline Special.  So far, those are the two best videos I&apos;ve seen showing multiple aspects of the different objectives (ie, three block war, convoy duty).  

As you are a marine, Outside the Wire is probably the best considering the area you are likely going to.

See my post below for ordering information.  

I don&apos;t know when you are going, but I hear that Michael Yon&apos;s &quot;Moment of Truth&quot; is an excellent book as well.  It&apos;s not out for another week or so but you can pre-order it.
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    <published>2008-04-03T16:19:02Z</published>
    <updated>2008-04-03T16:19:02Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8991-comment:71542</id>
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    <title>Comment from Ledger on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ledger</name>
        <uri>http://www.msn.com</uri>
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        Excellent reporting Bill! 

If Saddam’s family still has power – let them be rooted out. 

If the MSM has slanted reporting – let them be rooted out.

Keep the information flowing.

Btw, it will be argued in the military if you could have destroyed Saddam with proper ammo in the first strike (incendiary bombs, or cluster bombs, mines or small nukes). 

Certainly, it would have been best to destroy Saddam and his daughters in the first strike – but it’s unsure whether it could have been done.

Bush hit them with only 4 penetrator bombs, and rest of the air package was cruise missiles – it only damaged Saddam’s arm.

As I recall, Clinton hit that target with over 70 tons of explosive and Saddam got away.  I don’t know if Bush&apos;s Air Force could have done better than Clinton.

Q: Would it have been best to destroy Dora’s Ranch with any/all ammo?

A: Unknown to the average citizen.

Keep up the great reporting.

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    <published>2008-04-03T16:10:54Z</published>
    <updated>2008-04-03T16:10:54Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2008-04-03</title>
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        Nice to see you, Oh Trivety One.  Tell Hussan we are axing the same question too...and we are proud of you both!

Gots me an Afghan cookbook and have been skewering Many Things.  The back deck is off the house, making that first step out the back door a doozy...

thinking of y&apos;all...
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    <published>2008-04-03T16:07:20Z</published>
    <updated>2008-04-03T16:07:20Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8991-comment:71540</id>
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    <title>Comment from Ledger on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
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        Bill, you are a good man.

You are certainly pulling your weight. There are not too many of you out there.

Keep up the good work.

Carry on.

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    <published>2008-04-03T15:21:32Z</published>
    <updated>2008-04-03T15:21:32Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8991-comment:71539</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-04-03</title>
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        <name>BillT</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        You&apos;ll *love* the MRAPs, Sarge. Stay tuned...
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    <published>2008-04-03T14:58:26Z</published>
    <updated>2008-04-03T14:58:26Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Sgt. B. on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Sgt. B.</name>
        <uri>http://www.thegunline.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<blockquote>“So, why do the CNN reporters say this is *Iraqi* insurgency?”</blockquote>

Good fraggin' question!!!

With time passing by quickly, I'm trying to gather up as much information on our destination as possible.  Our home base over there is by no means a fighting hole half filled with water in the middle of Hades, which comforts these old bones...  But all of the pertinant questions are more along the lines of what's going on outside of the wire...

And, ya know, it's not as scary as I had first thought it to be.  There are more and more stories about the Iraqis coming together.  Signs that the infrastructure is jelling, that old ideas are taking a step aside in favor of new ones.

We'll have to stay frosty, of course, but it doesn't look like we'll be facing anything even close to the combat seen in the past.

Makes me feel a whole lot better, even if the prospect of earning that CIB starts diminishing.

I'm hoping that this will be one long and boring year...  I'm counting on increasing a majority of my skills set, and doing a lot of self improvement.  I'm taking it as a good sign that my mind is thinking beyond this deployment (that hadn't always been the case)...

In an absolutely positive spin, I might be able to link up with the Chief, and I'm sure that the Denizennes will keep me on my toes...]]>
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    <published>2008-04-03T14:53:42Z</published>
    <updated>2008-04-03T14:53:42Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Cassandra on 2008-04-03</title>
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        <name>Cassandra</name>
        <uri>http://www.villainouscompany.com/vcblog</uri>
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        Linked! Thanks, guys - excellent post.
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    <published>2008-04-03T13:20:27Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2008://1.8991-comment:71536</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-04-03</title>
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        I wondered how long it would take somebody to twig to the cops. Two items struck me when Hussan was talking about them:

1. These weren&apos;t National Police, they were locals -- in &quot;the time of Saddam&quot; they&apos;d have been Ba&apos;athist flunkies gathering an easy paycheck and augmenting it by shaking down the locals. Note the local folks ran to help the first cops who went down? That&apos;s a *huge* change.

2. The cops moved into the open and oriented their weapons on the sniper as the US troops moved up, which said to them &quot;We&apos;re friendlies and we&apos;ve got yer six.&quot;
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    <published>2008-04-03T13:18:39Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2008-04-03</title>
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        <![CDATA[I was just thinking that about the police action.  Really interesting to see them acting in unison and not getting crazy.

On the "global all star team" that the media seems to miss routinely, I can't fully answer that but don't miss the link to <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-ubaida2apr02,0,2079101.story" rel="nofollow">bad voodoo's story</a>.  another instance of what the media don't get.]]>
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    <published>2008-04-03T12:56:07Z</published>
    <updated>2008-04-03T12:56:07Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2008-04-03</title>
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        Sign me up with Trias - there are two stories here... the one you emphasize with the closer, and the one you notice, if you&apos;re of the bent to - about the performance of the Iraqi police - a good performance.
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    <published>2008-04-03T12:29:04Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Boquisucio on 2008-04-03</title>
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        Right to the point, as always, UnkaBill.
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    <published>2008-04-03T12:22:47Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillT on 2008-04-03</title>
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        Additional food for thought: Hussan&apos;s family is Shi&apos;a and (what&apos;s left of them) still lives in eastern Diyala.

That&apos;s like being Second Amendment advocates at the Democrats&apos; National Convention...
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    <published>2008-04-03T11:18:18Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Instapilot on 2008-04-03</title>
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        Chris Muir has the answer...just review his last couple of strips.

Heh.
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    <published>2008-04-03T11:00:46Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Trias on 2008-04-03</title>
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        Interesting and a good point.  Prolly a good point about discipline too to be made in there.
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